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valley resident

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What is wrong with the board there. It seems that they have a heart on for this booster club. These people work very hard to raise money and get the anamils good homes. With them gone now who will do all of this. The board say that they are going to rebuild the boosters. That will happen only if they can get people that they can can controll. If someone will not do what they want, then they will be out. It seems that this board is out of control. They have gone thru 10 board members in the past three years. why? From what i have been told that there is five people on the board that if you do not do what they want only then they will get rid of you very fast. An if you want to be a volunteer, you can if they like you other wise they will not let you volunteer.Thats not just me saying that, it true. Same thing with the board, if they do not like you, then they will not let you in.
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valley resident wrote:
What is wrong with the board there. It seems that they have a heart on for this booster club. These people work very hard to raise money and get the anamils good homes. With them gone now who will do all of this. The board say that they are going to rebuild the boosters. That will happen only if they can get people that they can can controll. If someone will not do what they want, then they will be out. It seems that this board is out of control. They have gone thru 10 board members in the past three years. why? From what i have been told that there is five people on the board that if you do not do what they want only then they will get rid of you very fast. An if you want to be a volunteer, you can if they like you other wise they will not let you volunteer.Thats not just me saying that, it true. Same thing with the board, if they do not like you, then they will not let you in.
heart on (n.)-- An erection of the male organ inspired in equal parts by lust and love.
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Well, not exactly.

But anyway...is it possible that the HHS wants better financial accountability? I've been involved with other volunteer groups that got a little too big for their britches and wanted to run the show. Volunteers are volunteers. Boards make decisions. You may be emotionally invested in your volunteer job, but you can't let you ego or your needs get all tangled up in it. That helps nobody.
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cat fight at the dog pound!
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These volunteers don't understand that with not turning in the cash on the spot and not providing an accurate final accounting for each event places the non profit status for HHS in danger. It's the board's fault for not enforcing the acceptable financal accountability for each fundraising event. Putting the money raised through fundraisers in someone's PERSONAL checking account is absolutely unacceptable. This person could have taken a bit for herself and no one would be the wiser. I am not a board member and have no affliation with the organization. Both sides are at fault.
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As for the person that nhad the money, believe e she would not take any money at all. She spend a lot out of her own pocket for this event. As for the accountability this has never been a issue with the board till this year. They did not complain till well after this was started about any thing. A lot of the statements made by the board in the letter was just the oppsite of what happen at the board meeting. One of the main reasons they got all upset was that this brought then they fiqured and that it might make their mutt smut event in june less suscessful then the cabin fever event. Now they say that the whole board need to vote on this matter and not just the executive board. That is a joke. There is only seven member left. and five of them are on the execuitve board, so for other two lots of luck. They are room for 11 members, but unless they like you, you will never get on the board. An if you do get on, do not cross them in any way or they will vote you out. They have lost 10 members in the last two years. Fiqure it out for yourself. Even if you want to volunteer, if they do not like you they will not vote you in. An they do not have to give you a reason.
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As for the person that nhad the money, believe e she would not take any money at all. She spend a lot out of her own pocket for this event. As for the accountability this has never been a issue with the board till this year. They did not complain till well after this was started about any thing. A lot of the statements made by the board in the letter was just the oppsite of what happen at the board meeting. One of the main reasons they got all upset was that this brought then they fiqured and that it might make their mutt smut event in june less suscessful then the cabin fever event. Now they say that the whole board need to vote on this matter and not just the executive board. That is a joke. There is only seven member left. and five of them are on the execuitve board, so for other two lots of luck. They are room for 11 members, but unless they like you, you will never get on the board. An if you do get on, do not cross them in any way or they will vote you out. They have lost 10 members in the last two years. Fiqure it out for yourself. Even if you want to volunteer, if they do not like you they will not vote you in. An they do not have to give you a reason.
Yeah, that is what the Town of Fairfield said about their treasurer. While all the time his wife was taking $$ and falsifying the records.
You don't understand the implications of poor money management on the non profit status of your organization. No volunteer should be putting fund raising money in her personal checking account. I don't care how trustworthy you feel she may be. It's just bad non profit organization accountability and a bad standard of practice How do you know this practice of mingling personal and HHS funds was ear marked by the HHS accountant? She's a darn smart accountant who does the taxes for many of the non profits in Herkimer County. Like I said before - the board is just as much to blame as the volunteers who run these fundraisers.
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If you're squeaky clean, you go out of your way to keep fundraising money strictly separate from your own. You insist on having someone else verify the accounts, to the penny. Seriously. You do that for your own protection. If the board didn't insist on it until this year, the volunteers SHOULD have!

I've handled other people's money, and you'd better believe I made sure nobody could question my integrity. I don't care how honest you think someone is. If s/he is scrupulously honest, s/he will welcome accountability measures.

As for board politics, when volunteering becomes THAT important to you, it's time to take a break and get some perspective.
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hmmm wrote:
I've handled other people's money, and you'd better believe I made sure nobody could question my integrity.
The only other people's money YOU handle is the nickels dimes and pennies you pick up from in front of the window at the McDonald's drive-thru.

You must be pretty desperate waiting in the McD parking lot like you do hoping to nab 8 cents that someone dropped! If you had any integrity you would chase the person and return that money or turn it over to the authorities.
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So, having no legitimate response to make, you resort to insulting someone about whom you know absolutely nothing.
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The money was counted as a group and all was handed in as usual and all events have been done in the same matter. If the board or treasure were so concerned then why weren't either one of them at the event to collect ? I know why: 1. They never come and support the boosters at any event that the boosters have hosted. 2. The boosters have always been trustworthy and never critized until $8,000 was raised and bent the boards noses. As far a an expense report....what would be turned in...nothing !!! Everything was donated except the hall. This is nothing but a power issue with the board. Disband the board....not the boosters.
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Apr 19, 2012
 
All of you, GROW UP and get your egos out of this.
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hmmm wrote:
All of you, GROW UP and get your egos out of this.
So a bunch of kind hearted volunteers got carried away and became a booster's club. Disband and start over with rules that are issued by the board of directors. Volunteers you are not an entity that makes decisions regarding fund raising. As I understand, you were advised not to approach the groups that normally sponser offical events for the Herkimer County Humane Society. How many times do you think that well can be tapped? Take a reality pill. As far as the person that was "handling" the money would not ever take a penny-not the issue. The issue is legality and oversight by the NYS government. Charitable organizations have a lot of regs to follow.
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The money should have never been put into a personnel account that i agree. But after three years of the board not saying anything about it why now they have a problem with it. As for the donations they got. They were never given a list till well after they had started. At that point they did just what the board said. Like booster said if they were so concerned about the money then why did they not have there treasurer there. That because the some of the board did not like the things that the boosters have accompiced. The only ones that have a bend nose is certain board members. The rules have to be followed by ever one but the board does not follow its own bylaws. Its time to get a new board in there and rebuild from there, for the sake of the anamils.
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Apr 19, 2012
 
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Yeah, that is what the Town of Fairfield said about their treasurer. While all the time his wife was taking $$ and falsifying the records.
You don't understand the implications of poor money management on the non profit status of your organization. No volunteer should be putting fund raising money in her personal checking account. I don't care how trustworthy you feel she may be. It's just bad non profit organization accountability and a bad standard of practice How do you know this practice of mingling personal and HHS funds was ear marked by the HHS accountant? She's a darn smart accountant who does the taxes for many of the non profits in Herkimer County. Like I said before - the board is just as much to blame as the volunteers who run these fundraisers.
It wasn't the Fairfield treasurer you retard. It was the Town Supervisor's wife who was performing his duties related to financial matters.

Keep sniffing paint fumes window licker.
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hmmm wrote:
If you're squeaky clean, you go out of your way to keep fundraising money strictly separate from your own. You insist on having someone else verify the accounts, to the penny. Seriously. You do that for your own protection. If the board didn't insist on it until this year, the volunteers SHOULD have!
I've handled other people's money, and you'd better believe I made sure nobody could question my integrity. I don't care how honest you think someone is. If s/he is scrupulously honest, s/he will welcome accountability measures.
As for board politics, when volunteering becomes THAT important to you, it's time to take a break and get some perspective.
Wrong. It was safer to immediately deposit the money in the bank rather than having cash on hand that could get lost or stolen. If there is an accurate tally of how much the event raised, doesn't matter if it was temporarily in a personal account. Your own protection also means protecting that money, which is best done by putting it in the bank. An accounting major you are not.
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Matter of fact, many schools have asked parents to deposit cash from their kids' fundraisers and send them to school with one single check for the entire total amount. Reason why? Because cash once lost or stolen disappears. A check, not so easily forged and cashed.
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pretty hard to put in the bank on a sunday. By the way i do have a accounting major, dummy.
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pretty hard to put in the bank on a sunday. By the way i do have a accounting major, dummy.
then you failed your degree.

Can't put it in the bank on a Sunday? Oh really? You've never heard of a NIGHT DEPOSIT DROP?

Wow, not only a dummy but a retard to boot.
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Sounds like you are one of the dummys on the board.
Also heard that one of the largest donor to the shelter has told Mr Dennis Korce{who is one of the problems} that either get this straighten out or she will take her money from them. It seem that this board has it there way only or no way. As i said before its time to get a whole new board.Its sound like you are one of the problems on this board.

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