Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

okboston wrote:

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Sorry,.....
Where is the science showing that it is not warming? Where is the science showing that it is not man caused?

Rather easy. We know the planet has warmed and cooled all without man and before the combustion engine. As in the ice age.

Now when you say you believe in Santa Claus or Space Aliens you need to prove it, not ask someone else to disprove it. For proof you have none other than best guess or theories.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
And we wounder why

D1-25-5-br wrote:

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I totally agree > Know Why ? It's because the chinese don't believe in that Global warming Krap . Can't you just see the Chinese after the american delegation leaves the premises ? They all fall over on the floor , hold their stomachs in profuse laughter , and in unison they all say , "man , can you believe just how stupid the Amelicans really are " ? " Those dumbasses actually believe that stupidity " . " Man " !! " We so lucky ". " We gonna be rich " . " Quick " ! " Before they grow brain , fu-- them real good " !!
CONFUSCIOUIS SAY !! Amelican Dumba$$!!

I suffer from AlGoreaphobia.

Jeffrey MacDonald wrote:

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Rather easy. We know the planet has warmed and cooled all without man and before the combustion engine. As in the ice age.
Now when you say you believe in Santa Claus or Space Aliens you need to prove it, not ask someone else to disprove it. For proof you have none other than best guess or theories.

Let's ignore best science and theories, right wing nut ?

D1-25-5-br wrote:

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I totally agree > Know Why ? It's because the chinese don't believe in that Global warming Krap . Can't you just see the Chinese after the american delegation leaves the premises ? They all fall over on the floor , hold their stomachs in profuse laughter , and in unison they all say , "man , can you believe just how stupid the Amelicans really are " ? " Those dumbasses actually believe that stupidity " . " Man " !! " We so lucky ". " We gonna be rich " . " Quick " ! " Before they grow brain , fu-- them real good " !!
CONFUSCIOUIS SAY !! Amelican Dumba$$!!

Which implies, you believe in communism as the superior power/system, right ?

Seattle Slew wrote:

I find folks who offer nothing to be worthless.

You shouldn't refer to yourself in such a derogatory fashion, just try harder.

okboston wrote:

Sorry

Aplogy accepted.

okboston wrote:

your lack of science has been debunked so many times

Not by you.

okboston wrote:

you and your side has lost all credibility.

The fat lady hasn't sung yet.

okboston wrote:

Having given up on proving that the globe is not warming

When was that?

okboston wrote:

you are reduced to just trying to find the smallest crack in the science that supports it.

Doesn't "your side" now call it climate change?

okboston wrote:

Where is the science showing that it is not warming?

Where's the science showing that it is warming?

okboston wrote:

Where is the science showing that it is not man caused?

Where's the science showing that it is man caused?

Mike wrote:

Talking about space aliens is final proof the alarmists have no credibility on this issue.

If only it was.
The alarmists, especially on internet boards like this, have their own individual foibles, space aliens is the most recent.

Mike wrote:

It's all hype and hysteria.

That's true, it's how the masses have been controlled over the millennia.

Seattle Slurry wrote:

Let's ignore best science and theories, right wing nut ?

Certainly not, "best science" is all we have, but climate science can't be included in that category.

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okboston wrote:

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I would expect scientists in general to score much higher than average. But that would not get McDonald, Tina, Earthling or others to listen to them now would it?

More like it would not get people like you to listen when they tell you that climate change is natural. It would not get people like you to listen while a historian tells you that all these claims are nothing new and all the predictions made by those you hold up have been made before and never came to pass.

Yes, one expects scientist in general to score much higher. But how would alarmist and skeptics score. I would expect the skeptics to outscore the alarmist.

Mike wrote:

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Talking about space aliens is final proof the alarmists have no credibility on this issue. It's all hype and hysteria.

Admitting in public that you don't know what an anology is removes any sense of credibility you had.

And this goes for the others that have demonstrated a like mindset as well.

Jeffrey MacDonald wrote:

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Rather easy. We know the planet has warmed and cooled all without man and before the combustion engine. As in the ice age.
Now when you say you believe in Santa Claus or Space Aliens you need to prove it, not ask someone else to disprove it. For proof you have none other than best guess or theories.

The proof has been and continues to be presented. All your side has left is to try and find a crack in the proof because you have no proof of your own.

And you have failed to find a sufficient "crack" to discredit the proof.

Futher, you lost all credibility, as if you had not before, when you failed to answer a single point in the anology.

tina anne wrote:

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More like it would not get people like you to listen when they tell you that climate change is natural. It would not get people like you to listen while a historian tells you that all these claims are nothing new and all the predictions made by those you hold up have been made before and never came to pass.
Yes, one expects scientist in general to score much higher. But how would alarmist and skeptics score. I would expect the skeptics to outscore the alarmist.

Thank you Tina for providing an excellent example of what I was talking about. No one has said that climate change is not natural or that it has not occured many times throughout history. Yet, here you are pretending that it is the issue.

Thank you for demonstrating how you listen to what the majority of scientists are saying.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

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I agree. Some must exaggerate to support their denial of facts. Most environmentalist that I know, and I know quite a few, are concerned and know that we must keep alert to our impact on the environment. They know that our human activities do indeed impact the environment and that we must always be cognizant of that fact. To ignore or deny the fact is irresponsible. More than that, it is simply stupid.

Denial of facts or denial of fiction that is man made climate change. To many people like you insist that it has to be a fact dispite the mountain of data disproving it. Of course to admit that these facts exist would also mean admitting that you were wrong and that the changes you have been pushing are just as wrong. Something you cannot do yet but time will force you to face.

Same old discussion going nowhere. Those who believe in man caused glowbull warming are too deeply invested in their belief to ever admit they are incorrect. As long as the politicians shy away from climate legislation im happy.

okboston wrote:

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The proof has been and continues to be presented. All your side has left is to try and find a crack in the proof because you have no proof of your own.
And you have failed to find a sufficient "crack" to discredit the proof.
Futher, you lost all credibility, as if you had not before, when you failed to answer a single point in the anology.

You have no proof, you simply have an opinion or theory.

Just like space aliens, we as reasonable people can't disprove your insanity.

Jeffrey MacDonald wrote:

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You have no proof, you simply have an opinion or theory.
Just like space aliens, we as reasonable people can't disprove your insanity.

Proof is in the form of a scientific theory which is measured in probability and supported by data and hypothesis. Proof is displayed as a rationed, logical and reasonable scientific argument.

The best part is, it has to be falsifiable and that is something you have been unable to do even thought it is possible.

okboston wrote:

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Sorry, your lack of science has been debunked so many times you and your side has lost all credibility. Having given up on proving that the globe is not warming, you are reduced to just trying to find the smallest crack in the science that supports it.
Where is the science showing that it is not warming? Where is the science showing that it is not man caused?

What are you , as dense as the materiel at the center of a black hole ? Have you been unconscious for the last 5 yrs ? Data collected world wide shows global cooling , NOT global warming .
No global "science" is required to "prove" it , just look at the numbers . You are able to read the numbers , right ? Even
Howdy Doody could figure it out . And since the numbers automatically debunk your figment of delirium , No science is required to support it . It simply does not exist , similar to green energy alternatives . You know ? Something that will actually work ? And I remind you , that if you have scientific theory , That you trying to convince others is correct , Then it is YOU pal , YOU that must prove it to be true . And all you have proved is that you , and others like you , are frauds . Criminal frauds . You should be in prison for defrauding the taxpayers of the US . You're in the wrong business pal . The days of putting on a facade of knowledge and expertise in a FAILED THEORY and the support FRAUD SCIENCE that you claim supports it are over . You are no scientist . You are a criminal . Those who support you are your victims .

tina anne wrote:

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Denial of facts or denial of fiction that is man made climate change. To many people like you insist that it has to be a fact dispite the mountain of data disproving it. Of course to admit that these facts exist would also mean admitting that you were wrong and that the changes you have been pushing are just as wrong. Something you cannot do yet but time will force you to face.

So, you are saying that the Earth is not warming.......