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tina anne wrote:
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Usually there are half below the average and half above. After all it is an average and research has shown that the IQ test itself leaves much to be desired.
And of course there are plenty of nuts and conspiracy theorist. Your a perfect example of such. Normally they have to have a big scary villian be it a super secret goverment agency with black choppers or Big Oil suppressing the truth. All have to be the work of an intelligent agency be it human or alien and of course it cannot be the work of nature.
Depends on the type of average. Median is half above - half below. But a real average of numbers may have one above and 200 below.

If 49 people make $10, 2 people make $11 and 49 more make $1,000,000 the median income is $11. Half above and half below.

The "real" average is $490,005.12

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my classmate's step-aunt makes $87 hourly on the internet. She has been out of a job for 6 months but last month her pay was $8647 just working on the internet for a few hours. Read more on this web site... http://ow.ly/91c5Y

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Depends on the type of average. Median is half above - half below. But a real average of numbers may have one above and 200 below.
If 49 people make $10, 2 people make $11 and 49 more make $1,000,000 the median income is $11. Half above and half below.
The "real" average is $490,005.12
Given the sample size is in the millions if not the billions it is safe to say that half are above the average and half is below.

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Hey, a four year old can find "errors" in an IPCC report. It is the underlying scientific data that is a little more difficult.
So who cares about someone finding errors in an IPCC report. It is a POLITICAL document.
Are you feeling unwell?
The IPCC is supposed to be a scientific organisation.
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"The IPCC's work is solidly based on science"
UK Guardian
"The IPCC bases its assessment mainly on peer reviewed and published scientific literature."
Wiki
"The Fifth Assessment Report (AR5) will provide an update of knowledge on the scientific, technical and socio-economic aspects of climate change."
IPCC

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Peer review is like activist courts; the public suffers.

It's nice to have a cozy victim electorate group. Just hard to explain why you need them for elections but they have no business in policy.

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tina anne wrote:
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Given the sample size is in the millions if not the billions it is safe to say that half are above the average and half is below.
What makes it a "safe" assumption? Sample size is not relevant.

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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Are you feeling unwell?
The IPCC is supposed to be a scientific organisation.
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"The IPCC's work is solidly based on science"
UK Guardian
"The IPCC bases its assessment mainly on peer reviewed and published scientific literature."
Wiki
"The Fifth Assessment Report (AR5) will provide an update of knowledge on the scientific, technical and socio-economic aspects of climate change."
IPCC
What a load of BS. The IPCC is supposed to be an organization within the UN. While its reports are based on scientific data and findings, it is still subject to political manipulations from the UN members of the IPCC.

The political manipulations are what cause many scientists to disagree with the final report. It is also what causes IPCC reports to notoriously UNDERSTATE the problem.

We have already had this disagreement before and you lost last time as well. Like I said, there is nothing new on this thread, you just continually regurgitate the same failed BS in a loop.

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The IPCC is as scientific as the fantasy they underestimate the reason for their existence. Institutional bias or lemming suicide?

More scientists report the science isn't in climate change mitigation. No experimental tests. Whoops
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"I think there is a general confusion about weather versus climate and that weather is what you see out the window on any given hour and climate is the statistical collection or average of weather events," Meehl wrote in an e-mail. "It's that statistical aspect of climate that's sometimes hard to picture. That's why using steroids and baseball as an analogy seems to work for people."

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okboston wrote:
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While its reports are based on scientific data and findings, it is still subject to political manipulations from the UN members of the IPCC.
THe IPCC report:

WG1, scientific basis is purely science, backed by the peer reviewed papers in respected journals

WG2, impacts and adaptations is scientific computer modelling as assessment. Less rigorous science but it should be based on expertise and peer reviewed papers in respected journals.

WG3, mitigation is partly science, partly politics. After all, determining the most effective policy is the PURPOSE of understanding the science (WG1), the risks (WG2) and now, what to do about it (WG3).

But if you think that ANY collection of people from 137 countries can have a 'meeting of the minds' over distorting the report to some specific purpose, you have never read the history of international politics.

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LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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THe IPCC report:
WG1, scientific basis is purely science, backed by the peer reviewed papers in respected journals
WG2, impacts and adaptations is scientific computer modelling as assessment. Less rigorous science but it should be based on expertise and peer reviewed papers in respected journals.
WG3, mitigation is partly science, partly politics. After all, determining the most effective policy is the PURPOSE of understanding the science (WG1), the risks (WG2) and now, what to do about it (WG3).
But if you think that ANY collection of people from 137 countries can have a 'meeting of the minds' over distorting the report to some specific purpose, you have never read the history of international politics.
In the report, large endrgy consumers and producers try to manipulate the language so that it appears at the low end of the scientific communities work.
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brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver wrote:
Peer review is like activist courts; ......they have no business in policy.
& "brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver" has no advanced mathematics & science degrees...... just a kid looking at the candy shop from the outside with no money(or talent) to buy in. That's what happens when you chose to NOT advance to mathematics & science degrees. Oh, that's right. Your errors of 1 million TIMES, 1000 TIMES, 3000 TIMES & multiple erroneous definitions of climate, proved you couldn't advance.
At least, you didn't waste time failing to educate yourself, further. However, you did waste time becoming a 'slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) pukey proud pig & alleged & proud threatener.

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SpaceBlues wrote:
"I think there is a general confusion about weather versus climate and that weather is what you see out the window on any given hour and climate is the statistical collection or average of weather events," Meehl wrote in an e-mail. "It's that statistical aspect of climate that's sometimes hard to picture. That's why using steroids and baseball as an analogy seems to work for people."[]
So, climate change mitigation is like a juiced baseball game. That's compelling evidence of something, probably not an unprecedented warming trend, unless you feel you have a fever.

Have you tried fever reducers like aspirin or ibuprofen?

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What a load of BS.
I agree.
You're out in the cold, unable to agree with either alarmist or sceptic.

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Co2 and sunlight are fifth grade science project material. Did you sleep through it?
Co2 levels have exploded in the last century along with the industrial revolution. Been asleep again?
Please explain the periods of global cooling that have happened in last 100 years.

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What makes it a "safe" assumption? Sample size is not relevant.
Of course not. Most alarmist are all for trimming the data set down to something they can twist. But for the idea of a average the more data the better. The the larger the sample size the better the average.

So are you now ready to talk about the cause of climate change.

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SpaceBlues wrote:
"I think there is a general confusion about weather versus climate and that weather is what you see out the window on any given hour and climate is the statistical collection or average of weather events," Meehl wrote in an e-mail. "It's that statistical aspect of climate that's sometimes hard to picture. That's why using steroids and baseball as an analogy seems to work for people."
http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_19940275...
weather=micro

climate=macro

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Recent global cooling trends may be attributed to Climate Attention Deficit Disorder (CADD), afflicting more children and their teachers.

What am I? No climatologist or meteorologist, I work for a living. Science is about good experimental tests, prototype, untested and untried CO2 emission restrictions for global climate change mitigation make no sense, unless you like superstition instead of science.

Pseudoscience, a hoax to sell newspapers, pay off contributors and keep the sheep from running off.

Don't be so serious all the time.

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Of course not. Most alarmist are all for trimming the data set down to something they can twist. But for the idea of a average the more data the better. The the larger the sample size the better the average.
So are you now ready to talk about the cause of climate change.
Nothing new to say or address. Global warming is happening. No its not. Yes it is.

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Of course not. Most alarmist are all for trimming the data set down to something they can twist. But for the idea of a average the more data the better. The the larger the sample size the better the average.
So are you now ready to talk about the cause of climate change.
Read Brian's last post and I rest my case.

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