Army Silences Catholic Chaplains

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Seattle Slew wrote:

Army chaplains have NO BUSINESS mandating behavior, except in the interest of the service. Sorry Charlie, the soldiers are there to do a job, not get indoctrinated by YOUR church.

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cantmakeitup wrote:

Once again the Obama administration and their dire efforts to "care for us" goes all stupid and unconstitutional. They are already being challenged on forcing people to purchase health care, either through their work, privately or by IRS enforcement. Now they are blatantly violating the right of a private religious organization to pay for something that violates their doctrine. And now they are denying their own soldiers the right to hear what their religious leaders have to say to them.
I'm no big fan of the RCC but this is another example of how our government,(not just dems or repubs either), is taking huge bites out of our freedoms guaranteed by the bill of rights they have supposed vowed to defend and uphold.
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stor...

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woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>those are Army chpalins, they do what the army tells them. No-one forced those chaplins to join the army.

Niether of the Above wrote:

<quoted text>So, because they enlisted, they give up their civil rights, one of which is Freedom of Religion? They joined as clergy, to serve as clergy and now we gag them concerning the very thing we brought them on to do??

cantmakeitup wrote:

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I was wondering when someone would bring this up. Technically yes, they do give up their rights to some degree including freedom of speech and the right to a trial by jury, when they sign up. I don't know that there has ever been a directive from any president for any denomination of chaplain to withhold information from their flock that is not related to some kind of security issue,(as mentioned earlier)and Ideally there should not be. They should not be denied messages from their ruling bodies just because the CIC does not like the message. Unless as mentioned, it is determined that it is a security risk.
I have to wonder if the Bishops just mailed the flyers to the soldiers would they intercept those too?

Niether of the Above wrote:

<quoted text>I understand, but do you think members of the clergy would sign up knowing ahead of time they would be restricted from preaching the beliefs of their religions?? I doubt it

cantmakeitup wrote:

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Probably not but the military can label a recipe for rice krispie treats as being a threat to security if they want and therefore disallow any one transmitting that to the troops. But ultimately, they can't stop the signal anymore.

Niether of the Above wrote:

<quoted text> I know, I served 18 months in SE Asia! They tried to tell us the hill we were taking that day was different from the one we took yesterday,! Unfortunately we all knew better, but no one argued!

cantmakeitup wrote:

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A perfect example of the oxymoron that is "military intelligence".

Niether of the Above wrote:

<quoted text>Exactly! But, hey we were draftees, and we thought they had our best interest at heart!