Moderates caught in the middle...

JTY wrote:

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Someone who isn't a Dem or Repub? There does tend to be about 8 or so people on the ballot.

JTY wrote:

The article makes it sound like there are more disfranchised moderates then leftists or righties. So why do they keep voting Dem or Republican.

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woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>I had several parties on my last ballot, but in many major elections, it's pretty much up to the two parties.

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>You are confusing the Independence party with independent voters. Do not do that and your qustion is answered.

Wade Gustafson wrote:

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I have not been talking about independent voters but independent legislators/politicians. You really should keep up. The independent office holders only ratify what others decide.

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>Actually, each and every one of your posts referenced directly to independent voters.?!?

Wade Gustafson wrote:

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Well, actually you are correct but you seem to have been continuously missing my point. Like it or not, politics in the U.S. is made up of Republicans and Democrats. If you vote for someone outside of those two parties and if an independent candidate does win, then that legislator won't actually be able to get anything accomplished of a partisan nature because that's the way things work. Look how effective Ventura was with the legislature. Jesse was a September 10th kind of governor, as long as things were going well we could afford to humor of having him as governor. The minute things are not smooth sailing we could not afford to have him as governor. What my point has not been about is the current Republican presidential race. Independents have nothing to do with it other than a so-called independent voter having an influence by voting in a Republican primary.

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>And i pointed out that , in fact, independednts in the legislature DO have sway.
And my point all along is not against either the Dem's or Rep.s or both at all. Just that many citizens, and a growing number of them as this article points out, are not a member of either party.
Independents do help shape candidates and even in this current republican candidate race. The RNC knows they have to capture those independent votes if they want to win the presidency, and other elections and their candidates must reflect that. That was mentioned in the republican caucus i sat in on.

Wade Gustafson wrote:

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Woody, will you please work on your reading comprehension? My points about independent voters and legislators is not about the current Republican presidential race. It is about independent legislators and how they cannot in most instances get anything done because they do not have a power structure from a party behind them. The only time they have any influence is if the Republicans and Democrats are in a tie and an independent legislator is the tie breaker. How often does that happen?

Wade Gustafson wrote:

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Woody, will you please work on your reading comprehension? My points about independent voters and legislators is not about the current Republican presidential race. It is about independent legislators and how they cannot in most instances get anything done because they do not have a power structure from a party behind them. The only time they have any influence is if the Republicans and Democrats are in a tie and an independent legislator is the tie breaker. How often does that happen?

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>You are also, again. Confusing the independednt party with voters that have no party affiliation, thus calling themselves indendent voters. They do not usually vote for Independent party candidates, they usually vote for a Dem. or Rep. and those parties know this and pick their candidates accordingly. What part of this do i need to explain to you again?

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>I'm aware of your assumptions on those points, they are just incorrect.