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Jeff T is a Racist

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These items need to be explained.
1) Why Obama's grandmother claims to have witnessed his birth in Kenya (not Honolulu)
2) Why Kenyan government officials have records indicating the Obama was born in Kenya (not Honolulu)
3) Why Obama listed his birthplace as Kenya on his Fulbright Scholarship application
4) Why Obama earlier posted an obvious forgery (using a form that Hawaii didn't adopt until 12 years after Obama was purportedly born there) on his campaign website.
5) Why Obama spent millions (of other people's money) hiding his birth certificate and school records.
6) Who paid for Obama's education?
1. She did not. When asked she said no, he was born in America. Who gives a crap what she said? The official record is that he was born in Hawaii. That's what the government said, that's what the hospital said and that's what witnesses said.
2. Complete BS.
3. He did not. Also, who cares? The official response is...see above.
4. He was a child when the short form was officiated. So all of his birth certificate needs from the time he was 11 or 12 up to and including today, that short form was sufficient and what he used.
5. Because he didn't. More tinfoil hat stuff.
6. Scholarships and loans he just finished paying off in his 40's.

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Jeff T is a Racist

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Rosie Ogrady wrote:
Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution explains what is called Natural born, and explains why it is so important so you are loyal to the U S only. The current President has little or no love of the USA.
Natural born is not settled law. McCain was born in the Panama Canal.
However, if one parent is an American, than that child is an American. That is settled law.
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silliness is right! what is silly is why didn't he do this earlier instead of spending approximately $1M in legal fees to prevent the release? Oh that's right, it wasn't his money so why should he care? I think what is more problematic is that it took this kind of pressure from a source that the media couldn't ignore to gain compliance. That is the real "silliness" here ...

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These items need to be explained.
1) Why Obama's grandmother claims to have witnessed his birth in Kenya (not Honolulu)
2) Why Kenyan government officials have records indicating the Obama was born in Kenya (not Honolulu)
3) Why Obama listed his birthplace as Kenya on his Fulbright Scholarship application
4) Why Obama earlier posted an obvious forgery (using a form that Hawaii didn't adopt until 12 years after Obama was purportedly born there) on his campaign website.
5) Why Obama spent millions (of other people's money) hiding his birth certificate and school records.
6) Who paid for Obama's education?
1)She did not.
2)They do not.
3)He did not.
4)He did not.
5)He did not.
6)He did, the same way most middle class college students pay for their educations, through a combination of scholarships and student loans.
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lol ... you're so full of horse hockey!
Whatever wrote:
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History shows that Repubs are more marxists then Dems. Do some research on Reagan, JR and SR Bush.
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Sven wrote:
I still don't believe it is real. He is from Norway.
i think is Fin
Annie

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Was Obama a Fulbright scholar?
Background: Citizenship and Fulbright Eligibility
Until the age of 21, Obama had dual citizenship. He had American citizenship because of his natural birth in Hawaii and temporary Kenyan citizenship via Kenyan law, through his paternal birthright.
It's not clear whether Obama had Indonesian citizenship, as well, through his Indonesian stepfather, Ann Dunham's second husband, but if he did, it would have expired after five years of nonresidence. Indonesia did not recognize dual citizenship at the time Obama was there and it's possible that Obama's stepfather claimed him as his own child in order to give him the rights of citizenship and to attend school. However, there is no record of adoption and Obama returned to Hawaii to continue his elementary school education, so the rumors of Soetoro adopting Obama or claiming Obama as his natural son to give him Indonesian citizenship are just that... rumors.
Dual citizens enjoy extra rights and privileges for a while, but only as long as certain residency requirements are met or until they turn legal age.
As of 2008, dual citizenship is recognized in the U.S., but there have been periods in American history where it was not.
Obama's Kenyan citizenship would have expired when he became a legal adult in August 1982. If he had Indonesian citizenship, as well, it would have expired around 1976.
When his mother married Indonesian citizen Soetoro, Obama lived abroad for a while, later returning to the U.S.
Obama's mother and his Indonesian step-father divorced in 1980 and Ann Dunham became a single mother.
Did Obama get a Fulbright?
There have been reports on a Web site registered to Debra J.M. Smith of Hilton, New York, that Obama received a Fulbright scholarship to help finance his university education at Columbia. These reports have spread through the Web but have not been verified.
The Fulbright is made available to Americans studying abroad and foreign students studying in America. The Fulbright exists to further communication and knowledge of other countries in the academic world through international exchanges and to make possible academic study in foreign settings.
Because he had the privilege of dual citizenship, there are two ways Obama may have been eligible:
• he may have been eligible for the Fulbright through his Kenyan citizenship (which was still valid at the time he entered Columbia), or
• he may have been eligible through his American citizenship if he studied abroad. It is known that he traveled to Indonesia, Pakistan, and India that year so it's possible his Fulbright application was for an American studying abroad.
Was Obama a Scholar Worthy of a Fulbright?
Both Obama's natural parents were academics with doctoral degrees.
Obama himself was probably not a great student in his early college career. He freely admits he did some stupid things in his youth. However, he learned better work habits along the line and apparently earned a high enough GPA in his early college career to apply to Harvard Law School. Only about 12% of applicants are accepted each year to Harvard Law and he was accepted, worked hard, and graduated with high honors---Magna cum Laude.
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_Obama_a_Fulbrig...
So Obama was a Kenyan after all.

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Rosie Ogrady wrote:
Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution explains what is called Natural born, and explains why it is so important so you are loyal to the U S only. The current President has little or no love of the USA.
You might try actually reading the Constitution before you misrepresent what is in it:
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
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He could have done this ions ago and this would have never been and issue. Still bugs me as to why he was so resistant to do so. I think he got off on the intrigue.
Barry Goldwater

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So why now? I know that all over Presidential candidates have provided theirs without any issue. So why not Obama? Is he ashamed? Really I want to know why.
I'd also like to point out that the question was never a GOP issue. Stop lying liberal media. We see through it, around it and under it.
This won't save him by the way. He's still a one term president. How did he get into Harvard, from what I understand he was a poor student? So Harvard which is suppose to have really high standards truthfully doesn't? Can we find anyone that has graduated from Harvard who is an upstanding citizen of the US? Anyone?
Obama a one-termer? It's a shame if you actually believe that. The Republican party is so disenfranchised right now that there's no way Obama can be beaten in 2012. He's vulnerable, but ultimately he won't be beaten because the pool of potential republican candidates suck. Consider:

Mittens Romney can't beat Obama. Evangelicals won't vote for Mittens because he's a Mormon, and social conservatives won't vote for him because of his record as governor of Massachusetts.

Newt has had an extremely questionable personal life, and so evangelicals won't vote for him.

Rick Santorum can't win because there's no way he can attract independent voters, and also because his last name is now associated with homosexual activities (google his name if you're unfamiliar). "President Frothy Mixture..." ain't going to happen.

Tiny Tim Pawlenty can't win because he has an abysmal record as governor of Minnesota, thus he can't attract fiscal conservatives, and independent voters won't vote for him because he has the personality of a potted plant.

Ron Paul can't win, because he can't attract evangelical voters.

Michele Bachmann can't win because fiscal conservatives know she's full of crap and independent voters think she's insane.

Herman Cain has the wrong skin color to attract social conservatives, so he won't be getting their votes.

Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee WON'T bother running at all because they're greedy and making too much money as pundits.

Trump is a joke, an opportunist, and the ultimate flip-flopper.

So who exactly do you believe is going to rescue the Republican party in 2012? I advocate for a write-in campaign for Barry Goldwater: the remaining gray matter in his rotting, decaying corpse possesses more intelligence than all of the above listed individuals combined.

You need to face reality: the party is DOOMED and ought to sit 2012 out, and instead focus its energy on beating Hillary in 2016.
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Nice job on not being able to spell tea bagger. My post was to discredit Trump and show what he really is. An opportunist.
Oh no, I spelled something wrong, what a "gotcha" moment for you.
Think about it knothead, politics is opportunity and Trump capitalized on this situation.
Take off the blinders.
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lol ... you're so full of horse hockey!
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Prove me wrong with facts...

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Was Obama a Fulbright scholar?
Background: Citizenship and Fulbright Eligibility
Until the age of 21, Obama had dual citizenship. He had American citizenship because of his natural birth in Hawaii and temporary Kenyan citizenship via Kenyan law, through his paternal birthright.
It's not clear whether Obama had Indonesian citizenship, as well, through his Indonesian stepfather, Ann Dunham's second husband, but if he did, it would have expired after five years of nonresidence. Indonesia did not recognize dual citizenship at the time Obama was there and it's possible that Obama's stepfather claimed him as his own child in order to give him the rights of citizenship and to attend school. However, there is no record of adoption and Obama returned to Hawaii to continue his elementary school education, so the rumors of Soetoro adopting Obama or claiming Obama as his natural son to give him Indonesian citizenship are just that... rumors.
Dual citizens enjoy extra rights and privileges for a while, but only as long as certain residency requirements are met or until they turn legal age.
As of 2008, dual citizenship is recognized in the U.S., but there have been periods in American history where it was not.
Obama's Kenyan citizenship would have expired when he became a legal adult in August 1982. If he had Indonesian citizenship, as well, it would have expired around 1976...
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_Obama_a_Fulbrig...
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/was-obama-bo...
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers...
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Angel wrote:
The funny part is not only did the republicans keep the issue alive, now they are blaming Obama for proving they were wrong when "he should be addressing more important issues" REALLY? And they shouldn't have been addressing more important issues when it was an issue for them? WOW!
Of course, you are aware it was Hilary Clinton, a democrat, who first called this into question, right?
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Ray wrote:
Now that his has been done can we see a certificate that proves Donald Trumps hairpiece is from the United States?
I'm thinking it was from a badger born in Russia which makes Trump not 100% American and ineligible to run for the White House.
Waaa haa haaa..you sure are a wit. Doosh. The question any normal adult would ask is this: why did the idiot drag this out for so long? Why, also, does he hide his college transcripts? I dont now nor will I ever trust this fake idol president. I figured he was a citizen, but why all the games and subterfuge? Lucky for him, he still has a few little penguins like Ray who will follow at his heels like a dumb little puppy, swallowing anything he says. Pathetic.
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<quoted text>Birthers will never let this issue drop,because they don't have a viable candidate to stand behind for 2012.Obama is leading all challengers in the polls,and this is driving them nuts. It is becoming more apparant that any quality conservitive candidates are waiting until 2016.The right fringe will next jump on the Obama college/grades issue.It's too bad they can't stand behind their candidate of choice and talk about the real issues.
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Her maiden name,was Stanley Ann Dunham - which was reflected on the typed portion of the certificate. She signed her name (Stanley) Ann Obama. Obviously she did not use her unusual first name and went by Ann plus her married last name of Obama. It's not rocket science people!
Her old man wanted her to be born a boy and that explains Stanley. It's no wonder she grew up a confused young woman.
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Wonder what the birthers will do with there time now?
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These items need to be explained.
1) Why Obama's grandmother claims to have witnessed his birth in Kenya (not Honolulu)
2) Why Kenyan government officials have records indicating the Obama was born in Kenya (not Honolulu)
3) Why Obama listed his birthplace as Kenya on his Fulbright Scholarship application
4) Why Obama earlier posted an obvious forgery (using a form that Hawaii didn't adopt until 12 years after Obama was purportedly born there) on his campaign website.
5) Why Obama spent millions (of other people's money) hiding his birth certificate and school records.
6) Who paid for Obama's education?
And where or what are your sources for these allegations?

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