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“# Sand”

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Mar 14, 2013
 

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To: Mr. Crim,

I took your advice from a previous thread and asked questions.

What I found is public records regarding you as defendant and judgments entered against you.

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Andy Crim

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Yes, those are correct. Previously JMA&Z Systems was my company, and it failed because my main customer filed bankrupcy. My customer left me hanging for over 200K in receivables from him, and no way to collect.

As you see, all of those judgements were satisfactory paid, and released. It took a couple of years, but all of my vendors were repaid.

As a business owner you take risks. I could have taken the easy way and file bankruptcy, but I didn't.

“# Sand”

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Andy Crim wrote:
Yes, those are correct. Previously JMA&Z Systems was my company, and it failed because my main customer filed bankrupcy. My customer left me hanging for over 200K in receivables from him, and no way to collect.
As you see, all of those judgements were satisfactory paid, and released. It took a couple of years, but all of my vendors were repaid.
As a business owner you take risks. I could have taken the easy way and file bankruptcy, but I didn't.
To Mr. Crim,

What is your explanation regarding the litigation brought forth against your first company Prism Computers ?

You were also a Defendant multiple times when you were President of Prism Computers. Judgments were entered against you and the Corporation was involuntarily dissolved.

Your second Corporation JMA and Z Systems was also involuntarily dissolved. Per Illinois Secretary of State.

Cook County Clerk of the Court Links. Public Records

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Andy Crim

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What is my explanation? My first company I started when I was 21 failed. Why? Because quite honestly I didn't know how to run a company.

I don't know how many people out there have tried to run a business and failed. Within the first 5 years of running a business almost 50% of them fail.

I wish I had the knowledge and experience 22 Years ago that I have today, but don't we all.

All of those were also paid and released.

Corporations were dissolved by Illinois for not renewing and paying the annual fee. If you don't renew and pay, they dissolve the corporation. If the corporation went out of business, the last thing on anyone's mind is renewing the corporate fee's with the state of Illinois.

“# Sand”

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To Mr. Crim,

Your second corporation dissolved just nine years ago. Did you forget to pay the fees a second time?

http://www.ilsos.gov/corporatellc/CorporateLl...

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

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Hey X14,

I love your photo, you seem to have a lot of info on these candidates. Perhaps you could tell us what Ms.Rybak and her boss Ms.Gleason earn at the park district as they don't seem to want that made public. It is also a well kept secret as to what they are doing at the school board. Where are all the radical changes they are pushing taking us? Can we expect the schools to close and have everything taught over the web? This would certainly cut down on costs. It is great to see Mr. Crim address the rumors posted on the web. Perhaps you could get Ms. Rybak to answer for her actions in hiring her bosses son with a no compete contract, and approving D228 superintendents sweetheart contract for $1Million this for a school district that is failing its students. It seems the last thing on her mind is the education of the kids at Bremen. Makes me wonder why she wants the mayors job.
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Full of crap concerned citizen,

Just admit you are a concerned Stephens party supporter....also if I was a candidate I wouldn't post on here because that Crim candidate is getting slammed and it doesn't matter what he writes. I love these "concerned citizens" that really are just posting to blast a candidate or party while using the concerned citizen card.
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Sorry concerned resident I meant.
Andy Crim

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I would be getting slammed if I posted, or didn't post. At least the public who reads and doesn't post to this board will get my side of things.

I appear to be the only one here not hiding behind some alias. I want people to make an informed decision about who they are voting for. People have asked my views on things, and I have tried to explain them as best as I can, and for what reasons I support things.

No one else in this elections is doing this. If answering questions, and posting my views on issues is not going to get me elected, so be it. However I am getting involved, asking questions and getting answers about things in town that I didn't know about and should have.

I have not bashed the other candidates, or brought up the dirt that exists on them that is known, or will. The only reason I mentioned any names is because of where the accusations originated from. If they did not originate from there, I'm sorry. However the only way I felt to get my story out was to explain.

I hope that the people who read this board and do not post will see this. It would be nice if we could have an open and honest discussion without a bunch of bashing going on, but with people anonymously posting, and having no accountability for what they say, that will not happen. I have posted on here because I know I will be held accountable for what I say.
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Hey X14,
I love your photo, you seem to have a lot of info on these candidates. Perhaps you could tell us what Ms.Rybak and her boss Ms.Gleason earn at the park district as they don't seem to want that made public. It is also a well kept secret as to what they are doing at the school board. Where are all the radical changes they are pushing taking us? Can we expect the schools to close and have everything taught over the web? This would certainly cut down on costs. It is great to see Mr. Crim address the rumors posted on the web. Perhaps you could get Ms. Rybak to answer for her actions in hiring her bosses son with a no compete contract, and approving D228 superintendents sweetheart contract for $1Million this for a school district that is failing its students. It seems the last thing on her mind is the education of the kids at Bremen. Makes me wonder why she wants the mayors job.
Sharon's always strived for power which she's never attained , she rubs most people the wrong way .Theres no way shell win this election she's only going to look foolish.I heard yesterday while lunching with four other residents she's holding a meeting at the VFW our jaws dropped , what is she thinking there are rumors of her accesive drinking and then she has the stupidity to have her meeting at a bar , oh my goodness she's so far from being appropriate to run for Mayor ,I don't know what she's thinking.
Andy Crim

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Mar 15, 2013
 
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To Mr. Crim,
Your second corporation dissolved just nine years ago. Did you forget to pay the fees a second time?
http://www.ilsos.gov/corporatellc/CorporateLl...
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
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No, that second business was closed when my main (and only real) customer filed for bankruptcy.
winterpeaches

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Andy,

I have one question and it is not about business - since we run our own and know where you are coming from on that.

I would like to know about the boy scouts - who received the statements and where were the receipts for the checks you wrote to someone else?

Why was no one watching this
Andy Crim

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Honestly I don't remember if the statements were mailed to me, or to someone else. It's been over 9 years since any of this happened, and before this was brought up on this board, I have never heard anything about being accused of stealing any money.
Receipts would have been with all of the other checking account information that was passed from Treasurer to Treasurer. I don't know what specifics you are referring to, so I really can't answer.
Now owning a company with a separate CFO and people other than me who have access to checking accounts, checks and balances are extremely important. I know for a fact that with the scouts there were none in place. No one ever did an audit, or really did a solid once over. There were monthly treasurers reports on expenditures, but there were no checks and balances in place. It's like that in most small organizations, people trust people until someone gets burned. Then, checks and balances are put in place. Also there were multiple signers on the checking account, three if I remember when I was treasurer. Honestly I don't remember who, but the bank statements from that period of time would show that.
Sorry if I can't answer your question better.
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get my number from my child - she will be at the game tonight. would like to discuss more infor with you. she has been at your house many times and latest wednesday
Giving You Credit Andy

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Atleast you posted on this site once you were officially a candidate unlike Sharon's idiot son, who was dropped off the ballot for trustee last year. Best of luck on this site because most people on here are here to start rumors and gossip.
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<quoted text>Sharon's always strived for power which she's never attained , she rubs most people the wrong way .Theres no way shell win this election she's only going to look foolish.I heard yesterday while lunching with four other residents she's holding a meeting at the VFW our jaws dropped , what is she thinking there are rumors of her accesive drinking and then she has the stupidity to have her meeting at a bar , oh my goodness she's so far from being appropriate to run for Mayor ,I don't know what she's thinking.
Now why is it you have this thing about the VFW Bill, Why is it you are always bringing up things you hear and then decide to spread a rumors around about someone you have never even gotten to know personally. Did you know that during Terry's first run at the Mayors office he met folks up at the VFW and discussed his reasons for being Mayor and the Promises he made to the men and women of Post 2580.
Its ok for the candidates to hold meeting and get together's were every they can get the word out about themselves. Also why is it you are accusing everyone that goes into the VFW are drunks or drinking. I have been there plenty of times just to visit and do volunteer work for the Post. Please stick to the facts. If you don't have the facts then please stop posting your rumors here.

Thank you and have a great day Bill

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I think Mr. Crim is partially getting bashed for how he handled his response to the accusations. He not admits he assumed he knew where the accusations were coming from and that was why he mentioned other people's names. He also says in the same breadth that he doesn't name names or bring dirt he knows on people to a public forum. I call BS on that Mr. Crim. You were wrong to post those people's names and business. All you needed to do was say it was the first you heard of the accusations and that they were not true. You have now given a bad impression of two people that you admitted aren't even in state anymore let alone involved in Midlothian politics. Tacky move sir. Tacky move.

And I'm sorry, but who doesn't know it's wrong/illegal let alone stupid to write blank checks to people? How old did you get before you figured that one out?

I totally understand the failing businesses remarks, and quite frankly, I'd rather have someone running for office that has tried and failed than not tried at all. I get where you're coming from there. I just can't get behind what you did about the accusations. All you did was try to redirect them somewhere else....Unsuccessfully at that. You can't defend yourself very well when you yourself claim you can't even remember whether you got statements mailed to your home or not. How do you forget something like that???

Ah well. At least you are trying to talk to us. Credit for that.
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Andy Crim wrote:
Honestly I don't remember if the statements were mailed to me, or to someone else. It's been over 9 years since any of this happened, and before this was brought up on this board, I have never heard anything about being accused of stealing any money.
Receipts would have been with all of the other checking account information that was passed from Treasurer to Treasurer. I don't know what specifics you are referring to, so I really can't answer.
Now owning a company with a separate CFO and people other than me who have access to checking accounts, checks and balances are extremely important. I know for a fact that with the scouts there were none in place. No one ever did an audit, or really did a solid once over. There were monthly treasurers reports on expenditures, but there were no checks and balances in place. It's like that in most small organizations, people trust people until someone gets burned. Then, checks and balances are put in place. Also there were multiple signers on the checking account, three if I remember when I was treasurer. Honestly I don't remember who, but the bank statements from that period of time would show that.
Sorry if I can't answer your question better.


9 yrs ago huh? Right about the time you were having problems with your business!! Come Clean!! You bash Midlo baseball and say you won't sponser them because they are not good at handling $! Which I agreed and got on the board to help correct things! Do you know you slam baseball about money mismanagement yet you employ someone who ran our concession stands and stole several thousands from us! You guys can stick together!! Come clean Andy! You need to tell the truth!!
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How did I slam baseball? By stopping to sponsor baseball? When I asked whoever called me about renewing my sponsorship (which I did for many years), I asked questions about what happened. I received no answers from anyone except that the entire board was replaced. I asked who was still on the board, and they said that the new people from the last year or two where there but all of the others were gone. I still don't know what happened with baseball, no one ever explained it to me. If you want to get it out, that's fine but I have never bashed baseball, or had anything to do with it since that last year.

All I know there were big problems with baseball the year I was a manager. I saw it, and you saw it as well. If you changed the board, and made it a better organization, that's great, we need better run organizations, but no one has ever approached me to sponsor since that year.

So are you mad at me because I stopped sponsoring baseball, or are you mad at me because you think I stole money from cub scouts (again, lets make this clear, no one from scouts has ever accused me of anything).

Chris I'm telling the truth, If you want to come over and talk with me about whatever is bugging you, that's fine. I don't think that I've even scene you since the last baseball picnic. If you want to talk to me face to face to get some of this straightened out, I will make the time to do it.
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Andy Crim wrote:
How did I slam baseball? By stopping to sponsor baseball? When I asked whoever called me about renewing my sponsorship (which I did for many years), I asked questions about what happened. I received no answers from anyone except that the entire board was replaced. I asked who was still on the board, and they said that the new people from the last year or two where there but all of the others were gone. I still don't know what happened with baseball, no one ever explained it to me. If you want to get it out, that's fine but I have never bashed baseball, or had anything to do with it since that last year.
All I know there were big problems with baseball the year I was a manager. I saw it, and you saw it as well. If you changed the board, and made it a better organization, that's great, we need better run organizations, but no one has ever approached me to sponsor since that year.
So are you mad at me because I stopped sponsoring baseball, or are you mad at me because you think I stole money from cub scouts (again, lets make this clear, no one from scouts has ever accused me of anything).
Chris I'm telling the truth, If you want to come over and talk with me about whatever is bugging you, that's fine. I don't think that I've even scene you since the last baseball picnic. If you want to talk to me face to face to get some of this straightened out, I will make the time to do it.
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So answer a question! How did your relationship with scouts end? Did u resign? Retire? Of just stop showing up and after several attempts to get u to show up to meetings and explain the financial situation of scouts you wouldn't show your face again? Did Mo and Jamie have to come get checkbook from you because you wouldn't come and explain situation? Also were you not paid in 100. Bills cash for a popcorn order. And money never got turned in until you were confronted and you appeared with 20$ bills? You blame others for using account as a loan dept yet you were one in charge! So please answer those questions completely honest and let the people decide!! As far as being mad at you for not sponsoring baseball! We are fine without your sponsorship! And we did correct the past problems! And you know who the thief employee you employ I am referring to! Same reason no charges filed in that case! Easier to scrape up what's left and consider it a lesson learned!! Pathetic people steal or "borrow" from a kids organization!! I made horrible financial decisions and made mistakes but never could or would I stoop to that level and take somthing that is not mine!! So please again just answer the questions!!

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