Middletown Council Expected To Oppose Site For Training Base

I am proud of our elected officials who are standing firm to support the best interests of all the citizens of Middletown.

I'm not proud of any Middletown officials, they're just trying for a better deal ($) let the national guard rehab one of the places they're closing

Funny thing.... Bysiewicz was against the base when it was proposed in Mamamous section. That's what started this whole thing. Now it's near her family farm so now it's ok to have it off Saybrook Rd. Doesn't anyone remember this?

This was in the Middletown Eye Blogspot:
"Adamant!

Geography and geology persuaded the Army that the City's selections in Maromas were not suitable. Perhaps the same elemental forces will repel them in Westfield. Unlike the wilderness of Maromas, Westfield is very fortunate to have a large group of articulate and informed neighbors. Unlike Maromas, Westfield was not selected by the City as a suitable alternative site. The City's selection criteria ensured that the sites would be in Maromas since they were chosen from a list from which all properties with industrial potential were excluded. To date there has not been an opportunity for public discussion of the City's two selected sites. I find this disturbing. The City Planner has repeatedly stated that the Boardman Lane site had been rejected by the Army in January.... Why does the City have to be so wishy washy on this issue, kowtowing to pressures for development, saying they welcome the honor of yet another tax burden as long as the Army will develop a place no ordinary idiot would otherwise consider? Dogged patriot that I am, I believe that the Army needs and deserves the best site in Central Connecticut rather than yet another planning disaster within Middletown's City limits. Citizens from all parts of the City should get together on this issue. The City leadership has demonstrated a deplorable lack of leadership. And for one influential neighborhood in an important industrial area to enlist City approval against another area inhabited by birds and forests is further evidence of this vacuum. Let's seize the opportunity to get together on this important issue and persuade the Army to make a regional search.

Jasper Cane"

There is a lot of truth in Cane's observations.

I'll believe it when I see it! That's my opinion of the Middletown City Council, and there wishy washy decision making process. They will change their minds more times, and money makes the decisions tougher. Westfield is not the ideal location. It has been stated over and over again that this would be a burden on the local residents, and the town for this location. Let's look at ROI, Environmental impact, taxpayer burden, infrastructure improvement costs and additional maintenance, etc, etc. This is not the right move. Let's see if the town government sticks with this decision all the way.

Perhaps the USA will need to declare war on the City of Middletown.

Susan Bysiewicz (who will never ever be Gov.) does not have a problem with her first cousin Ted Bysiewicz building a huge eyesore commercial building right up the road on Middle street. You can throw a baseball to it from the Boardmen Lane site.

Rake in the bucks, rake in the bucks people, while you can.

'NIMBY'.
Complacency in other words.
If only the Army National Gaurd were with the lot of you Boomers & your "Dark Side of the Moon" 'twixt "Wizard of Oz", now making gold paved streets with natural gas powered bridges with fuel supplanted from Saturn.
As opposed to your Uranus or a hole in the ground.

Berkeley East

Westfield is perfert because it's an industrial zone to begin with.And to top it off , sooner or later there going to build some industrial building here anyway.At least the army is willing to preserve about 50 acres.The water situation wouldn't be a problem anyway , it's far away from any other wells .The sewers will be installled , if there not there now.I don't know that anwser!
Anyway, it will be set back from anything, which would be a plus.
This would be the best site in Middletown.
OTHERWISE,I think Meriden would be the better option, since it has alot of industrial land that is not polluted and is going to waste.So army reconsider your options.If you need help email me and I can help with the location.

so the army is closing 7 other places around CT to build a brand new one on undisturbed land? whats wrong with any of those 7 sites? why are they being closed?

use the new high school

into the alley wrote:

Westfield is perfert because it's an industrial zone to begin with.And to top it off , sooner or later there going to build some industrial building here anyway.At least the army is willing to preserve about 50 acres.The water situation wouldn't be a problem anyway , it's far away from any other wells .The sewers will be installled , if there not there now.I don't know that anwser!
Anyway, it will be set back from anything, which would be a plus.
This would be the best site in Middletown.
OTHERWISE,I think Meriden would be the better option, since it has alot of industrial land that is not polluted and is going to waste.So army reconsider your options.If you need help email me and I can help with the location.

Let's get the facts straight:

1) The difference between the army and a business is that the army is not a tax-paying entity, and they are exempt from the zoning ordinances. Also if a private developed builds, they pay for the extension of water and sewer. If the army builds, the taxpaying citizens of Middletown pay.
2) They are not "preserving" 50 acres - more than half of the acreage is classified as wetlands and for the wetlands that are on the western reidgeline - the army will destroy those and claim to "add" them to the east side of the property.
3) There are wells within 200'(maybe even less) of the boundary line of this property, and this property is heavily laden with ledge, which will require a mjor amount of blasting - and blasting can affect wells up to 2000'(that's "thousand) away.
4) Some homes are serviced by sewers, but many are not.

Values in Westfield wrote:

<quoted text>
Let's get the facts straight:
1) The difference between the army and a business is that the army is not a tax-paying entity, and they are exempt from the zoning ordinances. Also if a private developed builds, they pay for the extension of water and sewer. If the army builds, the taxpaying citizens of Middletown pay.
2) They are not "preserving" 50 acres - more than half of the acreage is classified as wetlands and for the wetlands that are on the western reidgeline - the army will destroy those and claim to "add" them to the east side of the property.
3) There are wells within 200'(maybe even less) of the boundary line of this property, and this property is heavily laden with ledge, which will require a mjor amount of blasting - and blasting can affect wells up to 2000'(that's "thousand) away.
4) Some homes are serviced by sewers, but many are not.

the problem is there still going to build it in middletown and this is the most suitable place.tell me einstein , where is the better place.no matter where they go in middletown,they will destroy another piece of land.so this is the place and get over it.otherwise, if they decide to build it an another town ,that would be cool.

Values in Westfield wrote:

<quoted text>
Let's get the facts straight:
1) The difference between the army and a business is that the army is not a tax-paying entity, and they are exempt from the zoning ordinances. Also if a private developed builds, they pay for the extension of water and sewer. If the army builds, the taxpaying citizens of Middletown pay.
2) They are not "preserving" 50 acres - more than half of the acreage is classified as wetlands and for the wetlands that are on the western reidgeline - the army will destroy those and claim to "add" them to the east side of the property.
3) There are wells within 200'(maybe even less) of the boundary line of this property, and this property is heavily laden with ledge, which will require a mjor amount of blasting - and blasting can affect wells up to 2000'(that's "thousand) away.
4) Some homes are serviced by sewers, but many are not.

one more thing,even if they move the wetlands to the north, south, east or west . the army will still preserve the 50 acres.

Values in Westfield wrote:

<quoted text>
Let's get the facts straight:
1) The difference between the army and a business is that the army is not a tax-paying entity, and they are exempt from the zoning ordinances. Also if a private developed builds, they pay for the extension of water and sewer. If the army builds, the taxpaying citizens of Middletown pay.
2) They are not "preserving" 50 acres - more than half of the acreage is classified as wetlands and for the wetlands that are on the western reidgeline - the army will destroy those and claim to "add" them to the east side of the property.
3) There are wells within 200'(maybe even less) of the boundary line of this property, and this property is heavily laden with ledge, which will require a mjor amount of blasting - and blasting can affect wells up to 2000'(that's "thousand) away.
4) Some homes are serviced by sewers, but many are not.

another thing, if they do destroy the sewer or septic system, the army will have to buy new ones for everybody . it could benefit some of the homes that need to septic systems.

into the alley wrote:

<quoted text>the problem is there still going to build it in middletown and this is the most suitable place.tell me einstein , where is the better place.no matter where they go in middletown,they will destroy another piece of land.so this is the place and get over it.otherwise, if they decide to build it an another town ,that would be cool.

Hardly an Einstein here, just well researched and informed - the site at Pratt & Whitney is a viable site.

The 50 acres will always be "preserved" because they are wetlands, and it's better to have a tax paying business there, rather than a nonbeneficial burden to our economy located there.

The army will have mnothing to do with fixing the water and sewers, as a matter of fact the tax payers in Middletown will be paying to bring waters and sewer to the army base (and increase our taxes, go verify this with the water dept.)