Do You Support Measure G?

Frank wrote:

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I'm sure they will try but I heard at best it takes 3 to 4 months for that. Also it is very expensive and last I heard VHS is in the red millions. To pass these typs of Bonds they need a super majority. Will never happen because to many elderly are on fixed incomes. They actually vote in large numbers unlike the younger generations who don't.

Frank you sound like a real winner..talk about a pessimist.. Glad I don't have to put up with you. And if the hospital is in the RED - who put it there, but Chaudhuri and his gang...They haven't been billing so as to make it look bad also. Maybe you should check that out. And I really dislike you putting down us women who were out doing what we thought was a good thing and you say such nasty things. You should be ashamed of yourself. Maybe someday you'll need an 'old' nurse to take care of you, but you know what, they may just think you are too nasty and forget about you...I think I would. Don't like your attitude at all. Hemet Hospital will be fine.. Just wait and see. And try to think positive for once in your life. Talking about bonds.. If it's for the right purpose, I don't think you'll have a problem with us 'OLD NURSES' as you choose to call us. Measure I wasn't the right thing. Now a Bond is different & I don't believe most of us 'older' people would have as much problem with passing it as someone like you. You know you are going to get old someday whether you like it or not so you better wise up.

well in the end those people that voted 'no' including myself...did the right thing. We won because of you and I. Dr Chaudhri is a greedy man that does not care about the community. Just himself.

spa wrote:

well in the end those people that voted 'no' including myself...did the right thing. We won because of you and I. Dr Chaudhri is a greedy man that does not care about the community. Just himself.

Thanks SPA. I'm going to a celebration party tonight so maybe I'll find out what's going to happen next. Right now, I'm just happy, happy, happy. I think the best people won or I should say I know the best people won...

Mona - Hemet wrote:

<quoted text>Thanks SPA. I'm going to a celebration party tonight so maybe I'll find out what's going to happen next. Right now, I'm just happy, happy, happy. I think the best people won or I should say I know the best people won...

Ok, so you won, but you haven’t saved the hospital, yet… In case you did not read the paper today, the board is already talking about cutting services & layoffs. So now that you’ve stopped the sale, what the plan to save the hospital?!? Did anyone on the no side have enough of a clue to think that one out?

Mona - Hemet wrote:

<quoted text>Thanks SPA. I'm going to a celebration party tonight so maybe I'll find out what's going to happen next. Right now, I'm just happy, happy, happy. I think the best people won or I should say I know the best people won...

Bob, tell Mona what she has won... "Monas prize begins with layoffs, who knows how many hundred. Then she gets closed services and pissed off people who can't use Hemet's services" but hey at least Dr. C is gone. I guess its all worth loosing hundreds of Hospital jobs. Hey mona maybe Dr C will buy VHS assets out of bankruptcy for A PENNY ON THE DOLLAR instead of pennies on the dollar.

Frank wrote:

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Bob, tell Mona what she has won... "Monas prize begins with layoffs, who knows how many hundred. Then she gets closed services and off people who can't use Hemet's services" but hey at least Dr. C is gone. I guess its all worth loosing hundreds of Hospital jobs. Hey mona maybe Dr C will buy VHS assets out of bankruptcy for A PENNY ON THE DOLLAR instead of pennies on the dollar.

You said it Frank, everyone that works at the hospital, that I've spoken to, is wondering how long their jobs will be there... And let not forget the other businesses that do business with the hosptial that will suffer. Yeah, the hospitals been 'saved' in about the same way throwing a drowning man an anchor 'saves' him...

Not everyone at the hospital is in the panic mode. Quorum has taken over the management and has been there 3 days....We were told by our manager they would be making some cuts, however the rumor of hundreds was started by someone at HCMG, even my manager verified that. We dont have hundreds to lay off.....Perhaps now that Quorum is there they can fix the bad contracts that Dr Chaudhuri has entered into and also maybe by some stroke of luck the Hospital Board will resign, as they have all been "enablers" to the bad contracts and Dr C. Will there be some changes, of course, but change is not always bad! Perhaps they can figure better ways of doing things...after all , isnt that what Quorum does, Manage hospitals????

I am hopeful that the people who voted no did it for the right reasons. I welcome another reasonable bond measure to help with the hospitals or perhaps we should take donations to help the hospital. That Emergency room went up pretty quick on donations. This thing about old nurses really bugs me too. I am a middle aged nurse and always try to do the best for my patients, when I come across something I don't understand, I use my resources, an older more experienced nurse is usually one of them. Nursing is not an exact science. There are many very good nurses at the hospital, and a few not so good, the job and paperwork are very demanding, some days you go home just ache. The second person that touched you was probably a nurse, and when you are dying the one holding your hand or comforting your loved ones will probably be a nurse.

I think we need to ask for the VHS Board to Resign! Shame on them for enabling our Hospital for being in this place. They all need to Resign while they still have some dignity left!

I am glad that quorum is going to manage things

nurse wrote:

I welcome another reasonable bond measure to help with the hospitals or perhaps we should take donations to help the hospital.

A VHS bond measure requires a 2/3 majority vote to pass, not a simple majority. This is why Measure I failed.

The people now moving into Menifee, Hemet, and San Jacinto are coming from LA, SD, and OC, and they're used to privately run healthcare systems.

This is why we've come to this point. The demographics of this region has changed dramatically over the past 10 years. It's no longer a place of farmers and retirees. The people who now call this place their home don't understand the concept of public healthcare districts. That's why they don't support them.

Take a look at Temecula and Murrieta. Their hospitals are privately owned and operated, and they provide better service than VHS. As long we have those two private hospitals running effectively and profitably, it's going to make it tougher to convince voters here to keep a publicly run district going.

Frank wrote:

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Bob, tell Mona what she has won... "Monas prize begins with layoffs, who knows how many hundred. Then she gets closed services and pissed off people who can't use Hemet's services" but hey at least Dr. C is gone. I guess its all worth loosing hundreds of Hospital jobs. Hey mona maybe Dr C will buy VHS assets out of bankruptcy for A PENNY ON THE DOLLAR instead of pennies on the dollar.

I think you need to realise that Mona and I realise that Dr Chaudhri had to be out of there no matter what. Are you saying that Dr Chaudhri hasnt already contributed to the amount of people that have lost their jobs already... this is what he wanted...people to think like you... people to be scared like you... so that people will vote yes for G and this scumbag Chaudhri can take over again...and then we would be in an even worse situation... you would have even more cutbacks. A greedy man would be in charge.. I am sorry but how can you want a man like this in charge of our community hospitals.
I'm all for Monas comments. She certainly did her research before she voted for the right people. Yes we are in a precarious situation but i firmly believe that in 5 years time when chaudhri would be allowed to buy the hospital- we would be in an even worse situation.
Anyway Mona, I didnt make it to the party... I wasn't too well. Hope you had fun!

Stelis wrote:

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A VHS bond measure requires a 2/3 majority vote to pass, not a simple majority. This is why Measure I failed.
The people now moving into Menifee, Hemet, and San Jacinto are coming from LA, SD, and OC, and they're used to privately run healthcare systems.
This is why we've come to this point. The demographics of this region has changed dramatically over the past 10 years. It's no longer a place of farmers and retirees. The people who now call this place their home don't understand the concept of public healthcare districts. That's why they don't support them.
Take a look at Temecula and Murrieta. Their hospitals are privately owned and operated, and they provide better service than VHS. As long we have those two private hospitals running effectively and profitably, it's going to make it tougher to convince voters here to keep a publicly run district going.

I think you are a little off. Measure I failed because our Community felt Dr Chaudhuri would benefit from the money, and therefore said no. Do you really think they dont want better healtcare? They want Dr Chaudhuri out of the Community Coffer and i would be willing to bet they would go for a bond. We also need to remove the Corrupt Board which has enabled VHS to be ridden with financial trouble. They are "enablers" to the problem. Most have strong ties to Dr Chaudhuri and will do what he wants. You need to understand his ties to the VHS Community inorder to understand the big picture Stelis. I would hope you would go spend $11 on the Book Critical Conditions....it would enlighten you on some things. It was written by two NY Times Investigative Reporters....not someone with a Dr Chaudhuri beef.

You guys are all nuts. You want to listen to rumors and propaganda that's your perrogative. Bottom line. The measure failed. People are losing their jobs because you guys never bothered to actually READ what you were voting for or ask the staff what they thought. It had nothing to do with insurance or Chaudri. Now we're going bankrupt and that guy can buy it for 5cents on the dollar. I'm going to lose my job too since the measure failed. I really can't thank you enough

Kali wrote:

You guys are all nuts. You want to listen to rumors and propaganda that's your perrogative. Bottom line. The measure failed. People are losing their jobs because you guys never bothered to actually READ what you were voting for or ask the staff what they thought. It had nothing to do with insurance or Chaudri. Now we're going bankrupt and that guy can buy it for 5cents on the dollar. I'm going to lose my job too since the measure failed. I really can't thank you enough

Hey Kali, I know how you feel, I’m wondering how long it will be before I’m out of a job. From what I hear, the hospital will not last until February before they cant meet payroll… We have the clueless crew of Vote No to thank for this, I saw an article in the press enterprise not too long ago that quote Clyde Osborne as saying the Vote no crew does not have a plan to really ‘save the hospital’, as they were claiming they were doing… They were so focused on their blind hatred of Dr. C, that they do not care who else suffered. No we have forty one laid off and the behavioral health unit closing and more sure to come…

Thanks a lot guys!

First off, the election was weeks ago, and the Community gave a vote of "No Confidence" to the VHS hospital Board. We were told they would have layoffs wether the hospital was sold or not. So saying that they are because of the NO Folks is entirely wrong. They planned layoffs, and there were to be more if it sold. The problem is with the VHS Board, they have "Enabled" the decline of the facilities along with helping Dr Chauhduri. Dr Cherry is paid directly from Dr Chauhduri. They are puppeteers as to what Dr C wants. They are the responsible parties. Did you go to the Board meeting last week? I did, I saw one Board Member sleep thru all of the Public Comments, I also watched as one tapped her pen so fast, and stared at the ceiling. One sat with a huge smile on his face, come on, do you really think they gave a darn? Of course not, if they did they would have listened as the public, some of which showed up with walkers in tow, told them of their responsibility in this, if they had any heart they would RESIGN! We need leaders, not followers to the Dr C plan. We elected them, if we did our job at VHS like they did, we would have been fired, they need the same. Its in our hands.....we need to take action!!! Behavorial Health was supposed to move to Moreno Valley a few yrs ago, that has always been the talk...so nothing new there.....stand up to the Board, they need to know ....why don't you address them???

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