Do You Support Measure G?

I am also an employee of VHS. Although the services Select is promising are much needed in the community, something does not set right with me. I know and respect doctors on both sides of the fence on this issue, but the passionate doctors on the No Side have nothing to gain either way, yet they are dead set against this measure. I cannot help but to think there is some truth to what they are saying. What harm would it be for Mr. Cutler to answer questions under oath about his intentions. I am also suspicious of the fact that employees are encouraged to answer questions to the public, assuming they are on the Yes side. Yet, we where all warned not to talk about this issue at work. If the hospital is in such bad shape why would anyone want to buy it? Maybe, the board should hire Quorum, maybe a bond Measure would pass without Dr. Chaduri's influence. Maybe the citizens of Hemet should really consider how this happened. The sale of this hospital was not widely advertised in the first place, there may be better offers.

Chris,
You have said it well. I really do not believe that Dr Simpson, Dhiman, Singhvi and others would put their practices, reputations, and necks on the line if there was not truth to what they say. We all agree our hospital is in bad shape. Why was the Board so quick to sell, why didnt they advertise Nationally? I do believe a bond would pass in town (just read the Valley Chronicle letters to the editor todays edition as proof of that)they all seem to want Dr Chaudhuri out. He really does not have the best interest of our community at heart. Mr Cutler could not answer any question given to him at the Mt San Jacinto college forum which I attended. He kept turning red, tapping his toes and fidgeting every time a question was directed to him. He didnt even bring the Contract with him, a Yes physician had to give him his copy. He was certainly not prepared in any way. The Board needs to be recalled, as they certainly have no clue what happens with in the hospital. They need to walk a day in a patient care employee's shoes.

Hemet Native 25yrs wrote:

I'm speaking of the 25 pages aimed at Dr. Chaudhuri that have circulated through Hemet, and the NUMEROUS Flyers that named respectable doctors that have been in this town from the time I was born and have taken care of me and my family as being nothing but puppets on strings for this Dr. Chaudhuri. If this contract says that Dr. C is not allowed to participate in Selects decision making ...Why worries now? I feel like these people are personally motivated to have this hospital system fail so that they can feel that their finger pointing was for a reason. This is the only conclusion I can come up with I listen to their accusation every afternoon and have them tell me that I’m doing it for money! Ridiculous and Shame on those people who are doing this to the respectable name of Hemet.

I have only lived in Hemet 10 years, but I surely can read and understand what's happening with Measure G. The pages that are going around are right out of the book "Critical Condition". Before you start trashing the 'No' people, you should read it instead of making up stories. I've been out working my buns off to help defeat this Measure which includes standing at San Jacinto & Florida streets with signs and getting all sorts of thumbs up and horns honking and then there are the nasty 'yes' people across the street. They weren't getting anyone to acknowledge them so they came across the street to make it look like people were honking for them. Yesterday, in the community I live in with about 1450 units, there were two teenagers going around promoting Measure G. I stopped to talk to them and asked them if they knew what they were promoting. They said "No"; they were just getting paid to go around soliciting and for about 4-5 hours work they were getting paid $100 each plus they had a shirt that was purchased by the Chauduri gang. I told them that I had already gotten around to my community and that most were voting "no". It was really disgusting to me to find that they are going so low as to even buy shirts and hiring people who haven't the slightest idea what they are doing. Just working for the greedy people connected with the hospital. None of us were paid.. We've done everything freely because we believe in our cause. We are not tearing down signs or mutilating them..It's the 'yes' people. We aren't the nasty ones. Now if you don't want a decent hospital, you just go right ahead and vote your "yes" and then see what you get down the road a bit. They don't care about you.. ONLY MONEY. I've studied the whole thing and know what's happening. Maybe you should do the same. Would you rather have a privately run hospital where they can do as they please rather than a Community Hospital in which you have a voice??? And it doesn't say that Chaudhuri isn't going to a consultant. Read the contract.
Do you want a private-run hospital or a community hospital? I prefer the latter.

I have only lived in Hemet 10 years, but I surely can read and understand what's happening with Measure G. The pages that are going around are right out of the book "Critical Condition". Before you start trashing the 'No' people, you should read it instead of making up stories. I've been out working my buns off to help defeat this Measure which includes standing at San Jacinto & Florida streets with signs and getting all sorts of thumbs up and horns honking and then there are the nasty 'yes' people across the street. They weren't getting anyone to acknowledge them so they came across the street to make it look like people were honking for them. Yesterday, in the community I live in with about 1450 units, there were two teenagers going around promoting Measure G. I stopped to talk to them and asked them if they knew what they were promoting. They said "No"; they were just getting paid to go around soliciting and for about 4-5 hours work they were getting paid $100 each plus they had a shirt that was purchased by the Chauduri gang. I told them that I had already gotten around to my community and that most were voting "no". It was really disgusting to me to find that they are going so low as to even buy shirts and hiring people who haven't the slightest idea what they are doing. Just working for the greedy people connected with the hospital. None of us were paid.. We've done everything freely because we believe in our cause. We are not tearing down signs or mutilating them..It's the 'yes' people. We aren't the nasty ones. Now if you don't want a decent hospital, you just go right ahead and vote your "yes" and then see what you get down the road a bit. They don't care about you.. ONLY MONEY. I've studied the whole thing and know what's happening. Maybe you should do the same. Would you rather have a privately run hospital where they can do as they please rather than a Community Hospital in which you have a voice??? And it doesn't say that Chaudhuri isn't going to a consultant. Read the contract.
Do you want a private-run hospital or a community hospital? I prefer the latter.

Thats interesting, I've heard that the no people are paying kids to tear down the yes signs... And as far as employees not being able to talk about the measure, the only thing I've been tole, and I work at the hospital, is that I'm encouraged to vote, one way or another and that if I particaping in any sign waving or distribting flyers, I am not allowed to wear my hospital ID badge... And on the signs being torn down, the only thing I have seen is that one day I saw a woman putting up Yes signs and the nest day I drove by that same corner and all the yes signs had been torn down & ripped up and no signs were put up in their place.. I've seen the flyers that "quote" the contract stating that the new owners will be free top close the ER, because it not profitable, but just "happen" to leave out the next paragraph that states an exception the clause about VHS not being able to build another hospital and allows for VHS to open another ER, if the hospital closes the ER... All I've seen and heard from the No side is half truths, outright lies and accusations! I have yet to hear any semblance of a solid concrete plan about how the no side plans to go about restructuring the hospital if the vote fails... What I want is a hospital that's OPEN when myself or my family need it, public or private

Mona - Hemet wrote:

I have only lived in Hemet 10 years, but I surely can read and understand what's happening with Measure G. The pages that are going around are right out of the book "Critical Condition". Before you start trashing the 'No' people, you should read it instead of making up stories. I've been out working my buns off to help defeat this Measure which includes standing at San Jacinto & Florida streets with signs and getting all sorts of up and horns honking and then there are the 'yes' people across the street. They weren't getting anyone to acknowledge them so they came across the street to make it look like people were honking for them. Yesterday, in the community I live in with about 1450 units, there were two teenagers going around promoting Measure G. I stopped to talk to them and asked them if they knew what they were promoting. They said "No"; they were just getting paid to go around soliciting and for about 4-5 hours work they were getting paid $100 each plus they had a shirt that was purchased by the Chauduri gang. I told them that I had already gotten around to my community and that most were voting "no". It was really disgusting to me to find that they are going so low as to even buy shirts and hiring people who haven't the slightest idea what they are doing. Just working for the greedy people connected with the hospital. None of us were paid.. We've done everything freely because we believe in our cause. We are not tearing down signs or mutilating them..It's the 'yes' people. We aren't the ones. Now if you don't want a decent hospital, you just go right ahead and vote your "yes" and then see what you get down the road a bit. They don't care about you.. ONLY MONEY. I've studied the whole thing and know what's happening. Maybe you should do the same. Would you rather have a privately run hospital where they can do as they please rather than a Community Hospital in which you have a voice??? And it doesn't say that Chaudhuri isn't going to a consultant. Read the contract.
Do you want a private-run hospital or a community hospital? I prefer the latter.

I returned home from work at VHS tonight to find that someone had torn my Vote NO sign down from my front yard. They were nice enough to leave the stake in my front grass. How dare they trespass in my yard to rip down my sign? Who gives them that right? I have been witness to the "men" who drive the white pickup tearing down NO signs...how sad that We, the NO dont have the same freedom that the YES folks have. We stand on the corner holding our no signs only to be harassed by the YES people who come across the street and say slanderous things to us. We can all turn a blind eye as to what is going on, or we can take things by the horn and VOTE NO to make a change at VHS and finally eliminate Dr chaudhuri and his "gang". Vote NO!!! I will really be telling folks now....now that i have been violated in my own yard!!!
VOTE NO

Well, you are totally wrong. We don't have that kind of money to pay anyone for tearing down signs or any type of destructiveness .. that's just ludicrous. I believe you should have attended meetings and then maybe you would understand what's happening.. The water company took down all signs because they didn't want it on their fences. So, I think that's where you are coming from. I have been to meetings, hae done allot of research, etc. etc. so I know we definitely want a 'no' vote. Evidently you have a closed mind. I've seen both sides. There are allot of educated people in my area who can read through the lines and they haven't attended meeetings like I have. SO, we'll see come Tuesday, but if it passes,I'll be doing some adjusting...

This was in response to JBWex

Well it was not by the water company that I saw the signs torn down, perhaps there are just destructive people on both sides that make everyone look bad... As for me, I dont think bankrupcy is a viable answer, and I'm not aware of any other options, so I plan to vote yes and I'll get my knees and pay for God's will in this...
After all, thats will come about either way...

Mona - Hemet wrote:

Well, you are totally wrong. We don't have that kind of money to pay anyone for tearing down signs or any type of destructiveness .. that's just ludicrous. I believe you should have attended meetings and then maybe you would understand what's happening.. The water company took down all signs because they didn't want it on their fences. So, I think that's where you are coming from. I have been to meetings, hae done allot of research, etc. etc. so I know we definitely want a 'no' vote. Evidently you have a closed mind. I've seen both sides. There are allot of educated people in my area who can read through the lines and they haven't attended meeetings like I have. SO, we'll see come Tuesday, but if it passes,I'll be doing some adjusting...

I woke up to my NO sign being torn up and orange spray paint on my retaining wall, nice huh? I believe the hospital could file "reorganization" but now that we have our $700,000 that we are not paying for mis-management that will certainly help pay our bills. Perhaps they can also bill the correct amounts and bill in a timely manner which would put us in the black. When i attended an employee forum with Fred Meyer, he told us if we cut our Medicare length of stay by 2 days we would have over $12 million just from that, and if they did that we would not have to sell....he told all of us that, so what does that tell you??? MISMANAGEMENT ON PURPOSE!!! VOTE NO

JBWex wrote:

Well it was not by the water company that I saw the signs torn down, perhaps there are just destructive people on both sides that make everyone look bad... As for me, I dont think bankrupcy is a viable answer, and I'm not aware of any other options, so I plan to vote yes and I'll get my knees and pay for God's will in this...
After all, thats will come about either way...
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Well, bankruptcy isn't going to happen with the 'no' vote. It's just more scare tactics with the 'yes' group. Just read all their rubbish and look at how much money they have spent on advertising. Why didn't they pay bills with the over million dollars plus they have spent on advertising. They are short of money because they haven't billed so as to make it look bad. See, you don't even know what's happening....

Although bankrupcy is not only option if G does not pass, it is a very real possiblity. The hospital is operating on a minimum budget, just barley making payroll on pay weeks, and covering bills on the other weeks. As I understand it, Dr. Charduari has stated that measure G does not pass, he will sue to get his old contract back, now if files a suite and even if he loses, how much will that cost??

Mona - Hemet wrote:

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Well, bankruptcy isn't going to happen with the 'no' vote. It's just more scare tactics with the 'yes' group. Just read all their rubbish and look at how much money they have spent on advertising. Why didn't they pay bills with the over million dollars plus they have spent on advertising. They are short of money because they haven't billed so as to make it look bad. See, you don't even know what's happening....

If Dr Chaudhuri really was concerned about our "Community" he wouldnt sue, he would pack and go. If we put that money we are not paying him into the budget and billed appropriately, we would not need to sell, just ask Fred Meyer. Those words came from his lips during our "employee forum". Have you figured out yet that this election is about money yet? It certainly isnt about fixing our hospital. Its about the greed of certain doctors and what they could potentially loose.....why do you think they are paying them to wear the Yes T-shirts and hold Yes signs. Its smoke in the mirror for them....

Can you tell me why all the YES folks were told by their employer HCMG that they had to hold signs during their lunch and they had no choice. How is that a Monopoly! CAn anyone tell me why that should be allowed? We can only pray that God will show the good thru the "evil" and our Community will be spared from the wrath of the Empire!! Oh, i was there for over 3 hrs holding my No Sign being Harassed by the YES folks, Our NO Doctors were even out holding signs...what does that tell you??? Just Vote NO!!!

Save our Hospital wrote:

Can you tell me why all the YES folks were told by their employer HCMG that they had to hold signs during their lunch and they had no choice. How is that a Monopoly! CAn anyone tell me why that should be allowed? We can only pray that God will show the good thru the "evil" and our Community will be spared from the wrath of the Empire!! Oh, i was there for over 3 hrs holding my No Sign being Harassed by the YES folks, Our NO Doctors were even out holding signs...what does that tell you??? Just Vote NO!!!

Uhh.. I do not believe that all those planning to vote Yes are employed by HCMG. As far as God's will, thats what will come about anyway, but it sounds more like you want God to do your will...

Voting YES

I know for a fact the HCMG employees were told go stand and hold a yes sign, they had no choice. That is wrong and against the First Amendment. I cant believe that they had to pay sign holders, how sad. They have no idea what has led to this. How long have you been employeed by VHS? Must not be too long for you to not know what we have been thru. Why would the long term employees, who have had pensions taken from them because of Dr Chaudhuri want you to Vote NO? Did you watch patients die when he bankrupted KPC and Medpartners, I DID! You are very misinformed. I have canvassed our community, church and stores , schools and have only met one yes person, you. Everyone is so sick of the mismanagement they all say no. Why would the yes people have to come to our corner, do they not have a better one to stand on? I belong to a Union, and believe me, they do not speak for me. They can stand and yell all they want, however, they get my dues but not my vote. SEIU said they would help the hospital, all they have done is taken dues, ask the unhappy workers. Were you out there today? Why would all the ER nurses, the ICU nurses say no? There is a reason....once you give away our hospital you can never get it back again. Why give it away??? We need to save our community hospital.

VOTE NO!!!!!!!!!!

I thought Unions stick together. Isn't that how unions stay strong. Last time I checked SEIU was voting YES on G. Are you guys scabs? Private Hospitals are better anyway, so sell it. Sell it all. VOTE YES ON G

CNA is the nurses union, they are NO NO NO!!!! Last time i checked i am in America and i do NOT let some silly UNION tell me how to VOTE!!! I read and think Indepently of them....That is how America works....oh and if this isnt about money and Dr Chaudhuri why was his brother out holding a sign?? HMMMM!! VOTE NO NO NO NO

Private Hospitals wrote:

I thought Unions stick together. Isn't that how unions stay strong. Last time I checked SEIU was voting YES on G. Are you guys scabs? Private Hospitals are better anyway, so sell it. Sell it all. VOTE YES ON G

I spoke with some of the SEIU people and they didn't even know that the union had voted 'yes'. Must be a good union!!! Sick I'd say. They are just scared of losing their jobs. Go for "no" and save our hospital without the cronies.

I saw that CNA nurses support g. I guess you didn't get the memo. If unions are silly why are you a member of one? Unions blow anyway. YOU guys drive prices up with your wages while lowering productivity. Totally inefficient.