Smokers find oasis on the greens

zoxim wrote:

Right not, business owners should have the right to keep minorities out and sell rotten food too. Laws shouldn't apply to them. Occupancy requirements? Fire codes? It's communism I tell you! What a pants load. But you expect that from junkies.

Mickey wrote:

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Hey puss bag are you seriously on here complaining about smokers bitching? Isnt that what you are doing right now?
Typical liberal who wants everyone to be just like them. Sorry tough guy but this is America and I like my freedoms....it just sucks little puss hairs like you are running a free country.

zoxim wrote:

Right cynic, business owners should be able to ignore any law they like. Who needs OSHA? Let's bring back sweat shops. Who needs restaurant hygiene
laws? That's communism. Your brand of nutty libertarianism just doesn't make any sense.

Renee wrote:

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a) I'm about as liberal as you can get... that's why I am AGAINST the smoking ban.

Well wrote:

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I was going to say a similar thing about the second hand smoke data but you beat me to it and besides, people like that guy have no reason. Congrats on quitting as did I about 3 months ago.

Generic wrote:

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I have seen this argument so many times. It is such an incredibly stupid argument. Who said that all non-smokers eat Twinkies or are fat? Furthermore, if someone else eats Twinkies, how does that affect you? Do you get fat from someone else eating twinkies? Get over it!

A Shame wrote:

I have NEVER met a smoker recently who consistantly puts their butts in the ashtrays or other designated areas.
I do remember my grandmother who would never walk with a cigarette, because only 'street walkers' did that. My grandfather wouldn't toss the butts all over, he would make the effort to find an ashtray. Today's smokers are egotistical slobs.

nova0311 wrote:

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Actually, it does affect me. I have quit smoking, so I no longer have the smoker's penalty for my insurance. I am trying to live a healthier life by walking a few times a day (when I used to take smoke breaks) and participating in team sports. But my insurance premiums are still going up because all of us have to cover for all the obese whales who don't have the willpower to put down the damn fork. And those same fat whales are too lazy to walk a couple of blocks to the store to buy their fattening slop, so they pollute MY air with their gas-guzzling SUVs. So yes, it does affect me.

Mike wrote:

The facts are what they are on second-hand smoke. Check out the CDC or Surgeon General's website and, if you are literate, you will see that second hand tobacco smoke is poisonous, carcinogenic and more potent in chemicals than primary smoke. All this talk about restricting rights is nonsense. If anything, it's increasing the rights of people to go where they please without having to breathe in that garbage.
Oh and "Wow" tries to make a point about blanket statements, while making a blanket statement of his own and trying to appear self-righteous. All I can say is, "WOW...you're a moron."

Wisconsin Badger wrote:

There are so many iconic Chicago places that I just can't imagine being smoke free.
The bars on Rush Street.
The Jazz and Blues Clubs.
The Division Street Russian Baths.
I haven't been to any of those places since well before all these smoking bans kicked in. But even though I'm not a smoker myself, I'm afraid that a big part of the essence of these places must have been lost. For me at least, smoke seemed an essential part of their characters - of Chicago's character.

Wisconsin Badger wrote:

There are so many iconic Chicago places that I just can't imagine being smoke free.
The bars on Rush Street.
The Jazz and Blues Clubs.
The Division Street Russian Baths.
I haven't been to any of those places since well before all these smoking bans kicked in. But even though I'm not a smoker myself, I'm afraid that a big part of the essence of these places must have been lost. For me at least, smoke seemed an essential part of their characters - of Chicago's character.

KittyKat wrote:

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Exactly! Also, what about all the cigar bars that are effected by the ban? What the hell is that? Why would a non smoker even go in a bar that is for the sole purpose of smoking?
Casinos are trying to get the ban over turned because of all the business they are losing. I know that is unlikely to happen but in my opinion there needs to be some kind of compromise.

zoxim wrote:

Smoke all you want in your own home. Nobody cares if it stinks like an ashtray. But in public places take a hike.

Generic wrote:

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I have no idea what you are talking about and you have no stats to back that up. Not all smokers are fat. Some smokers are fat. Please show me the insurance company research shwing the correlation between your insurance premiums and the dinner fork. Or do you excuse fat smokers? Why do smokers insist on denigrating others they don't know? If you don't like the attitude of non-smokers, fine. But you cannot call them fat, overeaters, or anything else, because you don't know.

generalsn1234567 wrote:

<quoted text> Many Chicago cops are hoping for a change too with the crowds outside the bars getting larger with the appproaching warmer weather.