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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#147468 Jun 26, 2012
Those filthy heterosexuals....always neglecting their own children:

http://news.yahoo.com/police-rescue-malnouris...

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147469 Jun 26, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the National Child Abuse and Neglect Data System's (NCANDS) most current report, Child Maltreatment 2010, an estimated 81percent (81.2) of duplicate perpetrators were parents of the victim, including birth parents, adoptive parents, and stepparents. Of the parents who were perpetrators, an estimated than 84 percent (84.2) were biological parents, about 4 percent were stepparents, and about 1 percent (0.7) were adoptive parents. Relatives, other than parents, accounted for an additional 6 (6.1) percent and an unmarried partner of a parent accounted for 4 percent (4.4) of perpetrators.
http://faq.acf.hhs.gov/app/answers/detail/a_i...
Wow 84% where biological parents.......... Just cant keep you folks down.
Once again "The Great Sly_Clyde" demonstrates his agenda of misrepresentation and outright lying.

The discussion is about sexual abuse. He presents stats on "child mistreatment" an entirely different classification of abuse.

The Great Sly_Clyde's purpose should be clear enough: he would rather protect monsters like Larry Brinkin than Brinkin's infant victims.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#147470 Jun 26, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
The discussion is about sexual abuse. He presents stats on "child mistreatment" an entirely different classification of abuse.
Well, strictly speaking that is not true, the topic is same-sex marriage just as is indicated by the title of the thread "Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage".

The only reason that this off topic drivel you are arguing has been introduced is because you lack the mental capacity to make a relevant argument, and prefer to offer mindless obfuscation in your own attempt to inflame the debate with your witless rhetoric.

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147471 Jun 26, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
<quoted text>
George was a typical teenager. In his twenties, George emerged from his shell, got married, and had two sons. His parents were proud of him, of the family he had established, of the values he taught his children.
During his thirties, he was promoted to a new position in his company every two or three years. More money, more responsibility, more travel, more stress.
One day when George was on the road, his wife got a call. Her husband was three states away. He'd been arrested in that state for child molestation. By now George was 43.
How does George compare? George is typical.
First of all, he's married, just like 77 percent of the more than 4000 child sexual abusers in the Child Molestation Prevention Study. George is religious, like 93 percent of the abusers. He's educated. More than 46 percent had some college education and another 30 percent were high school graduates. Like 65 percent of the admitted abusers, George was working. Numerous studies of adult victims have sought to link child molestation victims to lower social class and lower family income. All have failed. Child victims and their abusers exist equally in families of all income levels and classes. And, now from the study, we know that child molesters are as equally married, educated, employed, and religious as any other Americans.
TABLE 2
Contrasts: Admitted Molesters vs. All American Men
Admitted Child Molesters
American Men
Married or formerly married
77%
73%
Some College
46%
49%
High School only
30%
32%
Working
69%
64%
Religious
93%
93%
http://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pag...
The problem with your exercise in misdirection, Clyde, is your stats are not broken down by homosexual and heterosexual encounters. My take is you don't want to do this because it would reveal most of the encounters are male-to-male sex -- that is, homosexual.

But feel free to prove me wrong, Clyde. Troll up new stats that show most child molestation encounters are heterosexual.

I won't hold my breath.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#147472 Jun 26, 2012
commonpeeps wrote:
<quoted text>Hey! this discustion is about gays, not pedophiles what's your problem? Are you trying to show some kind of connection? After gays get their way, the pedophiles will have a base to get their way too. Since the victims were boys, is he gay or just a molester?
true, but Larry Brinkin? are we giving him a pass?

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147473 Jun 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
ALL THAT YOU ARE DOING IS SHOWING THAT THERE ARE SOME SICK SOB'S OUT IN THIS WORLD........but guess what MARVEL.........THERE ARE STRAIGHT MEN WHO COMMIT THESE SAME CRIMES......and we STILL DON'T STOP THEME FROM GETTING MARRIED!!!
No matter how many of these SICK, DISGUSTING, PATHETIC MEN YOU MENTION.......IT WON'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THIS HAPPENS AND UNTIL THE PENALTY IS MUCH MORE SEVERE THAN WHAT IT IS.......THESE SICK SOB'S WILL CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH THE SHIET THAT THEY DO.
THESE MEN WHO DO THIS STUFF ARE PEDOPHILES AND CHILD MOLESTERS, their sexual orientation is IRRELEVANT and THEY ALL NEED TO BE HUNG BY THEIR NUTS FOR EVEN THINKING OF HARMING CHILDREN!!!
And anyone who focuses on these sick SOB's must enjoy what they do..........and again WE DON'T STOP THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE FROM MARRYING.....but you are ALL UP IN ARMS THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT THAT SOMEHOW PREVENTING HONEST GAYS AND LESBIANS FROM HAVING THE RIGHT TO MARRY......it will make that CRAP GO AWAY......SORRY, IT WON'T!!!
NO MATTER HOW MANY MEN YOU PARADE AS BEING HORRIFICALLY BAD, PERVERTED, SICK AND DOWN RIGHT DISGUSTING.........unless you are willing to prevent ALL MEN FROM GETTING MARRIED.......YOU HAVE NO VALID ARGUMENT!!!
Hope you get this message loud and clear!!!!
Posting in all caps -- how stupid and immature is that?

And, please note: she concedes people like Sandusky and Brinkin are "sick".

Well, we thank you for at least admitting that, RN; that's more than some from the LGBT community are doing.

The problem, however, is you absolutely refuse to believe it's their homosexual life-style that has made them sick.

Why do you reject that possibility, RN?

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147474 Jun 26, 2012
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, strictly speaking that is not true, the topic is same-sex marriage just as is indicated by the title of the thread "Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage".
The only reason that this off topic drivel you are arguing has been introduced is because you lack the mental capacity to make a relevant argument, and prefer to offer mindless obfuscation in your own attempt to inflame the debate with your witless rhetoric.
Seriously, Lides, it's been brought to my attention you're not even 18.

You need to stop posting here before somebody reports you and your father grounds you again.

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147475 Jun 26, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Posting in all caps -- how stupid and immature is that?
And, please note: she concedes people like Sandusky and Brinkin are "sick".
Well, we thank you for at least admitting that, RN; that's more than some from the LGBT community are doing.
The problem, however, is you absolutely refuse to believe it's their homosexual life-style that has made them sick.
Why do you reject that possibility, RN?
Because regardless of their sexual orientation.....they ARE SICK SOB'S.......why do you reject the fact the straight men are no better and do the same thing? Why do you reject the fact that straight men who are pedophiles and Child Molesters ARE STILL ALLOWED TO GET MARRIED AND HAVE CHILDREN? Why aren't you UPSET OR FLAMING over that?

See, you want to FOCUS just on what Gay men SUPPOSEDLY do to prove your point.....BUT THE FACT REMAINS THESE MEN ARE SICK SOB'S REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION!!!
Anonymous

Vallejo, CA

#147476 Jun 26, 2012
S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/S-F-gay-r...

San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin in connection with felony possession of child pornography.

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147477 Jun 26, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/S-F-gay-r...
San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin in connection with felony possession of child pornography.
Gee, like NO straight man has ever been guilty of this HORRIFIC CRAP, right?

You people are just so pathetic to latch on to this as though it involves ALL Gay men......and it doesn't!!!

Brinkin is NO BETTER than anyone else who does this crap and deserves to be hung by his NUTS!!!

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147478 Jun 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Because regardless of their sexual orientation.....they ARE SICK SOB'S.......why do you reject the fact the straight men are no better and do the same thing? Why do you reject the fact that straight men who are pedophiles and Child Molesters ARE STILL ALLOWED TO GET MARRIED AND HAVE CHILDREN? Why aren't you UPSET OR FLAMING over that?
See, you want to FOCUS just on what Gay men SUPPOSEDLY do to prove your point.....BUT THE FACT REMAINS THESE MEN ARE SICK SOB'S REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION!!!
Now it's regardless of sexual orientation. Yesterday it was, "Homosexuals can't be pedophiles, it's either one or the other!"

Larry Brinkin proved that wrong, didn't he?

All I'm saying is it's more important to prevent another Larry Brinkin from adopting than it is letting homosexuals like him marry -- and if it's same-sex marriage that allows monsters like him to adopt, we need to put same sex marriage on hold until we figure out a way to screen for homosexuals like him.

You're saying same-sex marriage is more important than protecting children and that's your privilege to say that.

I just disagree.

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147479 Jun 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, like NO straight man has ever been guilty of this HORRIFIC CRAP, right?
You people are just so pathetic to latch on to this as though it involves ALL Gay men......and it doesn't!!!
Brinkin is NO BETTER than anyone else who does this crap and deserves to be hung by his NUTS!!!
The only thing horrific here is that Larry Brinkin was permitted to adopt a defenseless child.

Will you at least concede that?

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147480 Jun 26, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Now it's regardless of sexual orientation. Yesterday it was, "Homosexuals can't be pedophiles, it's either one or the other!"
Larry Brinkin proved that wrong, didn't he?
All I'm saying is it's more important to prevent another Larry Brinkin from adopting than it is letting homosexuals like him marry -- and if it's same-sex marriage that allows monsters like him to adopt, we need to put same sex marriage on hold until we figure out a way to screen for homosexuals like him.
You're saying same-sex marriage is more important than protecting children and that's your privilege to say that.
I just disagree.
Don't you get it? My position has ALWAYS been regardless of sexual orientation and it remains that today.....you are the one who wants to focus on what Gay men do and seriously ignore the fact that straight men do it just as much......and you also ignore the fact that these men or women are PEDOPHILES, HEBEPHILES AND CHILD MOLESTERS......and you don't seem concerned about preventing straight men from getting married and having children, why is that? Are they somehow better because they might only molest little girls?

My position on this issue has ALWAYS been the same.....and you don't grasp that concept!!!

I HAVE NEVER STATED THAT ALLOWING SAME-SEX COUPLES THE RIGHT TO MARRY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PROTECTING CHILDREN.......however what I am saying is that NOT ALL GAY MEN ARE MONSTERS WHO HARM CHILDREN......and you believe that this is ONLY ABOUT GAY MEN......and that's simply a FALLACY!!!

Why are you wanting to prevent STRAIGHT MEN FROM MARRYING, HAVING CHILDREN OR ADOPTING CHILDREN? See, your position makes you look like a HYPOCRITE!!!

Now, I'm done with you and this pathetic subject which just makes me want to puke!!!

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#147481 Jun 26, 2012
More of the Prof's stupid rants.

Boring

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147482 Jun 26, 2012
Why are you wanting to prevent STRAIGHT MEN FROM MARRYING, HAVING CHILDREN OR ADOPTING CHILDREN?

This question should read Why AREN'T...

Sorry for the miss type.....but this subject and issue just makes me disgusted and the fact that folks like Marvel are all up in arms about what some Gay men do and is projecting this onto ALL Gay men.....that's wrong and extremely DISCRIMINATORY!!!

If he wants to screen men in general to prevent this from happening in the future......that's a different issue, but he is ONLY focusing on Gay men......and that's being a hypocrite!!!!

Information has been given on this subject......I suggest people read it because the only way to prevent Child Abuse, Molestation and Harm is to discuss the FACTS with children.....AND TRY A LITTLE HONESTY!!!

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147483 Jun 26, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing horrific here is that Larry Brinkin was permitted to adopt a defenseless child.
Will you at least concede that?
Yes, I will........will you concede the fact that Brinkin DOES NOT represent the entire Gay male population? Nor does Sandusky?

Think about this issue and realize that MEN who committed these HORRIFIC ACTS exist regardless of sexual orientation.....and know this......whether it be Brinkin, Sandusky or whomever.......THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR NUTS STRUNG UP AND FACE SEVERE PUNISHMENT!!!

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#147484 Jun 26, 2012
What do pedophiles have anything to do with marriage equality for lgbt peoples? NOTHING

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147485 Jun 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't you get it? My position has ALWAYS been regardless of sexual orientation and it remains that today.....you are the one who wants to focus on what Gay men do and seriously ignore the fact that straight men do it just as much......and you also ignore the fact that these men or women are PEDOPHILES, HEBEPHILES AND CHILD MOLESTERS......and you don't seem concerned about preventing straight men from getting married and having children, why is that? Are they somehow better because they might only molest little girls?
My position on this issue has ALWAYS been the same.....and you don't grasp that concept!!!
I HAVE NEVER STATED THAT ALLOWING SAME-SEX COUPLES THE RIGHT TO MARRY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PROTECTING CHILDREN.......however what I am saying is that NOT ALL GAY MEN ARE MONSTERS WHO HARM CHILDREN......and you believe that this is ONLY ABOUT GAY MEN......and that's simply a FALLACY!!!
Why are you wanting to prevent STRAIGHT MEN FROM MARRYING, HAVING CHILDREN OR ADOPTING CHILDREN? See, your position makes you look like a HYPOCRITE!!!
Now, I'm done with you and this pathetic subject which just makes me want to puke!!!
If all you're saying is "All gay men are not pedophiles!" you're not saying very much at all.

We know that and you're insistence on repeating it does't accomplish anything.

You may recall the Dateline NBC series "To Catch A Predator." What the producers learned is that there were just as many men out there willing to have sex with a 16 year-old boy as there were those willing to have sex with a 16 year-old.

In other words, homosexual predators are way in excess of the 2-4% of the population that's supposed to be homosexual.

The short answer is pedophilia is a much larger component of homosexuality than it is heterosexuality.

People like you want to ignore this alarming disparity. You want to say it doesn't exist -- that homosexual men are no more prone to pedophilia than heterosexual men. Well, Missy, you're in denial and it's denial like yours that explains why these pedophiles can compile upwards of 100,000 kiddie porn images on their harddrives.

You're an enabler, and like most enablers the harm you cause is done from ignorance -- willful ignorance.

Monsters like Larry Brinkin preyed not just on infants, but ignorance like yours.

Monsters like Larry Brinkin invented the slogans and screwball junk science you sprout around here. That's right -- when you say, "Homosexuals can't be pedophiles!" you're repeating self-serving trickery Larry Brinkin put in your dumb mouth.

Today you call him a SICK SOB, but what were you calling him last week?

What would you have said last week had he asked your permission to adopt another infant to abuse?

What would you have said, RN?

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147486 Jun 26, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
What would you have said, RN?
All I've got to say to you is IGNORANCE must be Bliss if you believe that Child Molestation occurs more from Homosexual Men than heterosexual men!!!

How sad is that from someone who claims to want to fix this issue but turns a blind eye to the ENTIRE issue just like with HIV/AIDS!!!

AND YOU CALL ME STUPID!!!

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147487 Jun 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I will........will you concede the fact that Brinkin DOES NOT represent the entire Gay male population? Nor does Sandusky?
Think about this issue and realize that MEN who committed these HORRIFIC ACTS exist regardless of sexual orientation.....and know this......whether it be Brinkin, Sandusky or whomever.......THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR NUTS STRUNG UP AND FACE SEVERE PUNISHMENT!!!
I pray to God Larry Brinkin, Catholic priests, Sandusky don't represent all homosexuals -- but unlike you, RN, I'm not in denial that they represent a considerable amount of them.

Unlike you, RN I don't construct junk science axioms like "No homosexaul male can be a pedophile!" to obfuscate the point.

Unlike you, RN, I'm not saying let's keep our adoption guidelines just the way they are and pretend we haven't learned anything about gay males we didn't know before.

See the difference between how I process new information and the way you do, RN?

The difference is I don't operate from the LGBT agenda and you do.

The LGBT agenda is a selfish, criminally negligent agenda that puts youth in danger. The LGBT agenda is the reason why a monster like Larry Brinkin was able to adopt.

The LGBT agenda has done or said noting about the sex trafficking of teenage boys on websites like rent-a-boy.

Don't come to me waving the LGBT flag, madam -- it's the same flag Larry Brinkin waved at all those protests marches after which he'd go home and jerk off to his treasure trove of kiddie porn.

The LGBT agenda is the reason why you can't pull your head out of your ass and do what a woman is supposed to do above and beyond anything else -- protect children!

Save your LGBT claptrap for the straight morons who support same sex marriage.

Don't try it on me -- I've learned how to see through gay activists like Larry Brinkin a long time ago.

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