Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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#147475 Jun 26, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
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Posting in all caps -- how stupid and immature is that?
And, please note: she concedes people like Sandusky and Brinkin are "sick".
Well, we thank you for at least admitting that, RN; that's more than some from the LGBT community are doing.
The problem, however, is you absolutely refuse to believe it's their homosexual life-style that has made them sick.
Why do you reject that possibility, RN?
Because regardless of their sexual orientation.....they ARE SICK SOB'S.......why do you reject the fact the straight men are no better and do the same thing? Why do you reject the fact that straight men who are pedophiles and Child Molesters ARE STILL ALLOWED TO GET MARRIED AND HAVE CHILDREN? Why aren't you UPSET OR FLAMING over that?

See, you want to FOCUS just on what Gay men SUPPOSEDLY do to prove your point.....BUT THE FACT REMAINS THESE MEN ARE SICK SOB'S REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION!!!
Anonymous

Vallejo, CA

#147476 Jun 26, 2012
S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/S-F-gay-r...

San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin in connection with felony possession of child pornography.

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147477 Jun 26, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/S-F-gay-r...
San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin in connection with felony possession of child pornography.
Gee, like NO straight man has ever been guilty of this HORRIFIC CRAP, right?

You people are just so pathetic to latch on to this as though it involves ALL Gay men......and it doesn't!!!

Brinkin is NO BETTER than anyone else who does this crap and deserves to be hung by his NUTS!!!

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147478 Jun 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Because regardless of their sexual orientation.....they ARE SICK SOB'S.......why do you reject the fact the straight men are no better and do the same thing? Why do you reject the fact that straight men who are pedophiles and Child Molesters ARE STILL ALLOWED TO GET MARRIED AND HAVE CHILDREN? Why aren't you UPSET OR FLAMING over that?
See, you want to FOCUS just on what Gay men SUPPOSEDLY do to prove your point.....BUT THE FACT REMAINS THESE MEN ARE SICK SOB'S REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION!!!
Now it's regardless of sexual orientation. Yesterday it was, "Homosexuals can't be pedophiles, it's either one or the other!"

Larry Brinkin proved that wrong, didn't he?

All I'm saying is it's more important to prevent another Larry Brinkin from adopting than it is letting homosexuals like him marry -- and if it's same-sex marriage that allows monsters like him to adopt, we need to put same sex marriage on hold until we figure out a way to screen for homosexuals like him.

You're saying same-sex marriage is more important than protecting children and that's your privilege to say that.

I just disagree.

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147479 Jun 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee, like NO straight man has ever been guilty of this HORRIFIC CRAP, right?
You people are just so pathetic to latch on to this as though it involves ALL Gay men......and it doesn't!!!
Brinkin is NO BETTER than anyone else who does this crap and deserves to be hung by his NUTS!!!
The only thing horrific here is that Larry Brinkin was permitted to adopt a defenseless child.

Will you at least concede that?

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Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147480 Jun 26, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Now it's regardless of sexual orientation. Yesterday it was, "Homosexuals can't be pedophiles, it's either one or the other!"
Larry Brinkin proved that wrong, didn't he?
All I'm saying is it's more important to prevent another Larry Brinkin from adopting than it is letting homosexuals like him marry -- and if it's same-sex marriage that allows monsters like him to adopt, we need to put same sex marriage on hold until we figure out a way to screen for homosexuals like him.
You're saying same-sex marriage is more important than protecting children and that's your privilege to say that.
I just disagree.
Don't you get it? My position has ALWAYS been regardless of sexual orientation and it remains that today.....you are the one who wants to focus on what Gay men do and seriously ignore the fact that straight men do it just as much......and you also ignore the fact that these men or women are PEDOPHILES, HEBEPHILES AND CHILD MOLESTERS......and you don't seem concerned about preventing straight men from getting married and having children, why is that? Are they somehow better because they might only molest little girls?

My position on this issue has ALWAYS been the same.....and you don't grasp that concept!!!

I HAVE NEVER STATED THAT ALLOWING SAME-SEX COUPLES THE RIGHT TO MARRY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PROTECTING CHILDREN.......however what I am saying is that NOT ALL GAY MEN ARE MONSTERS WHO HARM CHILDREN......and you believe that this is ONLY ABOUT GAY MEN......and that's simply a FALLACY!!!

Why are you wanting to prevent STRAIGHT MEN FROM MARRYING, HAVING CHILDREN OR ADOPTING CHILDREN? See, your position makes you look like a HYPOCRITE!!!

Now, I'm done with you and this pathetic subject which just makes me want to puke!!!

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#147481 Jun 26, 2012
More of the Prof's stupid rants.

Boring

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Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147482 Jun 26, 2012
Why are you wanting to prevent STRAIGHT MEN FROM MARRYING, HAVING CHILDREN OR ADOPTING CHILDREN?

This question should read Why AREN'T...

Sorry for the miss type.....but this subject and issue just makes me disgusted and the fact that folks like Marvel are all up in arms about what some Gay men do and is projecting this onto ALL Gay men.....that's wrong and extremely DISCRIMINATORY!!!

If he wants to screen men in general to prevent this from happening in the future......that's a different issue, but he is ONLY focusing on Gay men......and that's being a hypocrite!!!!

Information has been given on this subject......I suggest people read it because the only way to prevent Child Abuse, Molestation and Harm is to discuss the FACTS with children.....AND TRY A LITTLE HONESTY!!!

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147483 Jun 26, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing horrific here is that Larry Brinkin was permitted to adopt a defenseless child.
Will you at least concede that?
Yes, I will........will you concede the fact that Brinkin DOES NOT represent the entire Gay male population? Nor does Sandusky?

Think about this issue and realize that MEN who committed these HORRIFIC ACTS exist regardless of sexual orientation.....and know this......whether it be Brinkin, Sandusky or whomever.......THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR NUTS STRUNG UP AND FACE SEVERE PUNISHMENT!!!

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#147484 Jun 26, 2012
What do pedophiles have anything to do with marriage equality for lgbt peoples? NOTHING

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147485 Jun 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't you get it? My position has ALWAYS been regardless of sexual orientation and it remains that today.....you are the one who wants to focus on what Gay men do and seriously ignore the fact that straight men do it just as much......and you also ignore the fact that these men or women are PEDOPHILES, HEBEPHILES AND CHILD MOLESTERS......and you don't seem concerned about preventing straight men from getting married and having children, why is that? Are they somehow better because they might only molest little girls?
My position on this issue has ALWAYS been the same.....and you don't grasp that concept!!!
I HAVE NEVER STATED THAT ALLOWING SAME-SEX COUPLES THE RIGHT TO MARRY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PROTECTING CHILDREN.......however what I am saying is that NOT ALL GAY MEN ARE MONSTERS WHO HARM CHILDREN......and you believe that this is ONLY ABOUT GAY MEN......and that's simply a FALLACY!!!
Why are you wanting to prevent STRAIGHT MEN FROM MARRYING, HAVING CHILDREN OR ADOPTING CHILDREN? See, your position makes you look like a HYPOCRITE!!!
Now, I'm done with you and this pathetic subject which just makes me want to puke!!!
If all you're saying is "All gay men are not pedophiles!" you're not saying very much at all.

We know that and you're insistence on repeating it does't accomplish anything.

You may recall the Dateline NBC series "To Catch A Predator." What the producers learned is that there were just as many men out there willing to have sex with a 16 year-old boy as there were those willing to have sex with a 16 year-old.

In other words, homosexual predators are way in excess of the 2-4% of the population that's supposed to be homosexual.

The short answer is pedophilia is a much larger component of homosexuality than it is heterosexuality.

People like you want to ignore this alarming disparity. You want to say it doesn't exist -- that homosexual men are no more prone to pedophilia than heterosexual men. Well, Missy, you're in denial and it's denial like yours that explains why these pedophiles can compile upwards of 100,000 kiddie porn images on their harddrives.

You're an enabler, and like most enablers the harm you cause is done from ignorance -- willful ignorance.

Monsters like Larry Brinkin preyed not just on infants, but ignorance like yours.

Monsters like Larry Brinkin invented the slogans and screwball junk science you sprout around here. That's right -- when you say, "Homosexuals can't be pedophiles!" you're repeating self-serving trickery Larry Brinkin put in your dumb mouth.

Today you call him a SICK SOB, but what were you calling him last week?

What would you have said last week had he asked your permission to adopt another infant to abuse?

What would you have said, RN?

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147486 Jun 26, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
What would you have said, RN?
All I've got to say to you is IGNORANCE must be Bliss if you believe that Child Molestation occurs more from Homosexual Men than heterosexual men!!!

How sad is that from someone who claims to want to fix this issue but turns a blind eye to the ENTIRE issue just like with HIV/AIDS!!!

AND YOU CALL ME STUPID!!!

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147487 Jun 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I will........will you concede the fact that Brinkin DOES NOT represent the entire Gay male population? Nor does Sandusky?
Think about this issue and realize that MEN who committed these HORRIFIC ACTS exist regardless of sexual orientation.....and know this......whether it be Brinkin, Sandusky or whomever.......THEY NEED TO HAVE THEIR NUTS STRUNG UP AND FACE SEVERE PUNISHMENT!!!
I pray to God Larry Brinkin, Catholic priests, Sandusky don't represent all homosexuals -- but unlike you, RN, I'm not in denial that they represent a considerable amount of them.

Unlike you, RN I don't construct junk science axioms like "No homosexaul male can be a pedophile!" to obfuscate the point.

Unlike you, RN, I'm not saying let's keep our adoption guidelines just the way they are and pretend we haven't learned anything about gay males we didn't know before.

See the difference between how I process new information and the way you do, RN?

The difference is I don't operate from the LGBT agenda and you do.

The LGBT agenda is a selfish, criminally negligent agenda that puts youth in danger. The LGBT agenda is the reason why a monster like Larry Brinkin was able to adopt.

The LGBT agenda has done or said noting about the sex trafficking of teenage boys on websites like rent-a-boy.

Don't come to me waving the LGBT flag, madam -- it's the same flag Larry Brinkin waved at all those protests marches after which he'd go home and jerk off to his treasure trove of kiddie porn.

The LGBT agenda is the reason why you can't pull your head out of your ass and do what a woman is supposed to do above and beyond anything else -- protect children!

Save your LGBT claptrap for the straight morons who support same sex marriage.

Don't try it on me -- I've learned how to see through gay activists like Larry Brinkin a long time ago.

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147488 Jun 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
All I've got to say to you is IGNORANCE must be Bliss if you believe that Child Molestation occurs more from Homosexual Men than heterosexual men!!!
How sad is that from someone who claims to want to fix this issue but turns a blind eye to the ENTIRE issue just like with HIV/AIDS!!!
AND YOU CALL ME STUPID!!!
Maybe if you had evidence showing homosexuals have a lower rate of pedophilia you'd have a point -- but you have no evidence ... Not a whit!

All you have is that same old refrain "Straights do it too!"

One problem with that: straight men have never been able to adopt little girls -- or little boys for that matter. Yes, we knew they'd be a problem so he headed it off -- Single men can't adopt.

But people like you came along and changed that. You told us gay males were different. You told us it's impossible for gay males to be pedophiles and the straight morons who support same sex marriage believed you. They changed the rules so monsters like Larry Brinkin could adopt as many little boys as he liked.

Now do you get it, RN?

Now do your grasp why I call you an enabler?

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147489 Jun 26, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
How about this Marvel......THE WOE OF THE WORLD IS THE FAULT OF EVERY GAY, LESBIAN, BISEXUAL AND TRANSGENDER PERSON......now, does that make you feel better?

It ALL MY FRUCKING FAULT......is that better for you?

OR MAYBE THIS ONE.....IT'S ALL OBAMA'S FAULT, is that it?

YOU WOULDN'T KNOW REALITY IF IT FRUCKED YOU UP THE AZZ......and you certainly don't know when someone is trying to EDUCATE on an issue YOU ARE WOEFULLY IGNORANT ON!!!

Yep, this whole Pedophilia/Child Molestation issue is ALL TO BLAME BECAUSE THE GAYS AND LESBIANS JUST WANT TO GET FRUCKING MARRIED!!!

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147490 Jun 26, 2012
Matt Sandusky pretended he was asleep when his father entered the room.

The adopted son of convicted child molester Jerry Sandusky told detectives that for years he was scared to be in his own home and even "wanted to die," according to a recording obtained by NBC News.

"If you were pretending you were asleep and you were touched or rubbed in some way, you could just act like you were rolling over in your sleep so you could change positions," Matt Sandusky, 33, alleged in the taped interview.

The chilling allegations released today were recorded a week before Jerry was convicted on Friday of 45 criminal counts related to the sexual abuse of 10 boys over 15 years. Matt revealed his story of alleged abuse during his father's trial but had defended Jerry following his arrest in November.

Prosecutors warned that they'd use Matt's testimony in their case if Jerry took the stand. The former Penn State assistant football coach reportedly declined to testify after hearing his son's 29-minute interview.

Matt described painful memories to detectives that came back to him through therapy sessions.

"With, like, the showering, with the hugging, with the rubbing, with the just, the talking to me, the way he spoke," he said.

In addition, the adopted son said that his father would "blow raspberries" on his stomach and "his hand would rub down" along his genitals, according to a detective in the recording.

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Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#147491 Jun 26, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
You told us it's impossible for gay males to be pedophiles and the straight morons who support same sex marriage believed you.
PLEASE POINT OUT ONE POST OF MINE THAT HAS EVER STATED THAT GAY MEN CAN'T BE PEDOPHILES OR CHILD MOLESTERS.

What I have stated is that REGARDLESS OF ONE'S SEXUAL ORIENTATION THAT THERE ARE HORRIFIC MEN WHO DO THESE THINGS TO CHILDREN......it is you that INSISTS that if it involves boys it MUST be HOMOSEXUAL and you have been GIVEN THE LINKS REPEATEDLY THAT PROVE YOUR THINKING IS A FALLACY!!!

NOW THIS IS FRUCKING ENOUGH ON THIS SUBJECT......unless you stop ALL MEN FROM MARRYING AND HAVING CHILDREN.....you are only looking at this issue from one side......and by the way......yes, in some states, single men can adopt!!!

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147492 Jun 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
How about this Marvel......THE WOE OF THE WORLD IS THE FAULT OF EVERY GAY, LESBIAN, BISEXUAL AND TRANSGENDER PERSON......now, does that make you feel better?
It ALL MY FRUCKING FAULT......is that better for you?
OR MAYBE THIS ONE.....IT'S ALL OBAMA'S FAULT, is that it?
YOU WOULDN'T KNOW REALITY IF IT FRUCKED YOU UP THE AZZ......and you certainly don't know when someone is trying to EDUCATE on an issue YOU ARE WOEFULLY IGNORANT ON!!!
Yep, this whole Pedophilia/Child Molestation issue is ALL TO BLAME BECAUSE THE GAYS AND LESBIANS JUST WANT TO GET FRUCKING MARRIED!!!
You wanted reasons why same sex marriage is a horrible idea and I gave them to you and the main reason is homosexuality should never be considered normal which same sex marriage does -- it normalizes homosexuality.

You get your opinions from LGBT talking points; I get mine from research.

You've never read "The Band Played On" by Randy Shiltz.

You've never read "The Ecology of Homosexuality" by Gabriel Rotello.

You've never read anything about Fire Island or the Greenwich Village docks.

You read the CDC reports and willfully misrepresent the content.

You read about Catholic priests and tells us "They not homosexual because homosexuality and pedophilia cannot co-exist."

You read about Sandusky and Larry Brinkin and rather than call for tougher adoption rules you respond with LGBT talking points -- "There are no more gay pedophiles than heterosexual ones!"

Lesbians like you are out in the street in a heartbeat when called upon to protest the closing of a local bathhouse.

Your ideas are not yours. Every idea you have in your head comes from LGBT activists like Larry Brinkin.

You certainly don't know how many other gay males are like Larry Brinkin but day in and day out you tell us they're not all like him.

How the hell do you know that?

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#147493 Jun 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
PLEASE POINT OUT ONE POST OF MINE THAT HAS EVER STATED THAT GAY MEN CAN'T BE PEDOPHILES OR CHILD MOLESTERS.
What I have stated is that REGARDLESS OF ONE'S SEXUAL ORIENTATION THAT THERE ARE HORRIFIC MEN WHO DO THESE THINGS TO CHILDREN......it is you that INSISTS that if it involves boys it MUST be HOMOSEXUAL and you have been GIVEN THE LINKS REPEATEDLY THAT PROVE YOUR THINKING IS A FALLACY!!!
NOW THIS IS FRUCKING ENOUGH ON THIS SUBJECT......unless you stop ALL MEN FROM MARRYING AND HAVING CHILDREN.....you are only looking at this issue from one side......and by the way......yes, in some states, single men can adopt!!!
Larry Brinkin self-identified as homosexual as did that well-known gay activist in London who was busted with 78,000 kiddie porn images. You want us to believe their homosexuality has no bearing on their prevision and the reason you want that is because you're a twisted lesbian who'd rather protect the LGBT community than defenseless kids.

And that's you in a nutshell, Mister.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#147494 Jun 26, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
Seriously, Lides, it's been brought to my attention you're not even 18.
You need to stop posting here before somebody reports you and your father grounds you again.
It has been brought to my attention that you make things up that you cannot prove.

If you were intelligent you wouldn't need to do so. Then again, if you were intelligent you could make a rational on topic argument instead of making a juvenile as hominem attack.

I shall accept your admission of defeat, as you obviously have nothing on topic or intelligent to bring to the conversation. It must such when one's attempts to obfuscate the topic with irrelevant BS are brought to light.

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