Special Helicopter To Help In Latimer County Search

Thank you God!!! This is an answer to my prayers!!! I hope they will be able to find them safe in a hunting cabin or lean-to!!! Those FLIR cameras are great, so they should be able to find anyone out there! Prayers for the family and the searchers!!!

I wonder if those cameras kind find a Bigfoot?

OK lets not start this smart*** remarks Tjuan Taylor. This is a serious matter.

dumokie wrote:

<quoted text>Only if they are alive . FLIR cameras only work with heat signatures. Still there might be some hope.

Yes. I understand quite a bit about FLIR cameras including their astronomical price, so I do understand that the searchers are fortunate to have this technology and that the cameras detect heat signatures. I'm sorry if my statement didn't make that clear, but thank you for clarifying. I just wish they could have had access to the camera from day one of finding the truck, but I'm sure that may not have been possible.
This is one of those cases where you wish something odd was going on like those Heenes who hoaxed everyone and that the family was just hiding out somewhere safe and sound!!! It would be better than the other possible scenarios.

Heres hoping an end to this nightmare for families is just hours from being resolved.

The camera is worth a try but it probably will not work. They will pick up on all sorts of heat signatures from animals to large rocks but the chances of find 3 people in that rugged, highly wooded, rocky area with it are slim. This technology has been used in similar terrain during other searches and has produced little to no usable results. I hate to put a damper on everyone's hopes, but it is time to be realistic. If this family is still in the area, the outcome will not be positive when, and if, they are located. There is also the smallest possibility this was foul play and they are nowhere near the area anymore. The large amount of cash remaining in the truck does tend to make this scenario less likely though.

An infrared camera operating in the spectral range of 2&#956;m–5·6&#956;m was fitted into a Royal New Zealand Air Force Iroquois helicopter and used to assist in a police search for the body of a missing hitchhiker. Although unsuccessful in its main purpose, it was well demonstrated that the aerial use of the infrared camera and equipment can locate points of interest unnoticed by ground searchers and thus decrease the ground search area. Subsequent tests revealed that the body of a dead animal could easily be detected seventeen days after burial.

it's about time they got serious about the missing family!!! Again, someone knows something! Oklahoma needs all the help they can get! The Weleetka girls murders and the Anadarko preacher lady murder is still unsolved! Maybe if OSBI or FBI would call in a psychic for help, they could get some leads! Yes, there is "Big Foot" or "Satchquatch" or whatever you want to call it in them there HILLS! Really, they could have been taken by a UFO, seriously, but no one wants to open that can of worms!

I agree w/Jason. No one wants to admit what really could have happened. Do you really think they just vanished? How could those people be so stupid to drive by the car for a week, seeing it parked there with a dog in it and do nothing? No call to police or anything? That shows the mentality of the people from around there! Yes, I agree there are real things in the woods down there and there are real aliens among us that can do supernatural things, but no one wants to talk about it or believe it because their little world as they know it would be turned upside down! Just talk to MUFON... then you'll know the truth. Get Ready!

I know this is rough country, but a MAN is not going to hole up in the woods with his family just because he doesn't know where to go. There couldn't have been that much terrain between his truck and the where they walked off to.
IMO, this has turned in to a murder/suicide.
Hate to say it, but that's what I think.

OkieOne wrote:

The camera is worth a try but it probably will not work. They will pick up on all sorts of heat signatures from animals to large rocks but the chances of find 3 people in that rugged, highly wooded, rocky area with it are slim. This technology has been used in similar terrain during other searches and has produced little to no usable results. I hate to put a damper on everyone's hopes, but it is time to be realistic. If this family is still in the area, the outcome will not be positive when, and if, they are located. There is also the smallest possibility this was foul play and they are nowhere near the area anymore. The large amount of cash remaining in the truck does tend to make this scenario less likely though.

It is rough country, but also has many logging roads and gas well pad sites, which have roads leading to and from main roads. Even an UN-manly man's instincts would not keep themselves lost for almost 20 days on a mountain in Oklahoma. Especially when a child is involved. Time to consider this a recovery and not a rescue.
Go ahead and mark my comments as "mean" and "clueless" and "hateful", but stop and think about it.

I hear tulsa has a spare helicopter now...maybe they can borrow ours to help with the search

Well I just hope they find out something!

I hate to say it, but the outcome isn't going to be good here. I'm from this area, and while it is rugged, there shouldn't have been any reason that they didn't walk out. While remote, there are roads and they should have stumbled across the local roads down there.

When I said that I was from this area, I guess I should have said that I was raised about 5 miles from this area.

interesting wrote:

An infrared camera operating in the spectral range of 2&#956;m–5·6&#956;m was fitted into a Royal New Zealand Air Force Iroquois helicopter and used to assist in a police search for the body of a missing hitchhiker. Although unsuccessful in its main purpose, it was well demonstrated that the aerial use of the infrared camera and equipment can locate points of interest unnoticed by ground searchers and thus decrease the ground search area. Subsequent tests revealed that the body of a dead animal could easily be detected seventeen days after burial.

Thank you for explaining to everyone the amazing capabilities with this type of equipment! It is possible that if they detect nothing that the family may have not even been in that area. It is also possible that if it is a large heated rock or deer they can tell by the shape of the heat signature and the movement or lack of movement. I have no doubt that they have a professional who is trained to read the camera's findings just as there are trained professionals to read CATscans and MRIs.

i'm sure law enforcement has to exahaust all possibilities. that's why they are searching in the vicinity of the truck. i guess.
they won't be found there.
the truck was driven to that location and left.
they should be going over the truck with one of them CSI investigator types.
the dog was left *in* the truck for a reason.
they didn't name it robbers cave state park for noth'n.

kdoklahoma wrote:

When I said that I was from this area, I guess I should have said that I was raised about 5 miles from this area.

I am at the point were I believe either they were never really there in the first place, they got in another vehicle and are somewhere else, or they walked or got in another vehicle and fell into an abandoned mine. I wish they were somewhere else and don't even realize people are looking for them and they are safe.
Do you believe that they would have "stumbled upon something" and someone harmed them? I used to live in a similar area and know that there were "crazy mountain men" who'd jump in front of your vehicle as you were driving down the road and there were secret little drug operations, but nobody was ever harmed or disappeared over anything so dumb.

If they are still alive and are in an area that is within the search grid the FLIR camera mounted to the helicopter can find them. This technology has been used with great results by the United States Military within Special Operations around the globe for target detection & acquisition.
If there is a minimal heat signature, it will be picked up. If they are bound and gagged and are not able to walk to a road or scream for help, it is still possible to have an outcome other than what is expected. The human body is capable of great things and the limits are very seldom ever realized by most. I will continue to pray for the missing and for the family's peace as well.

dumokie wrote:

<quoted text>Only if they are alive . FLIR cameras only work with heat signatures. Still there might be some hope.

No, they do not have to be alive for an infra-red camera to detect them. When a person is dead, a decaying body still throws off heat.