A question for Johnny or Shawn

How far back can we trace the Church of Christ? By that I mean one that displays your views.

Can you cite historical proof?

Can you cite continually proof through the ages, or will you just quote the bible instead and skip any other references?

In Matt. 5:14 - Jesus says a city set on a hill cannot be hidden.

This is reference to the church and that means you should be able to show a multitude of historical references to the "church of Christ"

who says Mat 5:14 means one should be able to show historical references
Paul says not many mighty not many noble 1Cor 1:26
I could say that only nobility had the printing presses

therefore refereces will be found from enemies writings?

Cristians were hiding by the way... in everyones history books, from Nero and following

so how could Mat 5 always dictate that they would be out writing there history?
foolish!

I do have refereces by the way from enemies pen, further back than any of the so-called baptist!

the enemy ws Featley
parlimant
hated the church of Christ in 1600

I have his debate with them
Baptist try and hi-jack it
call it Baptist History

the debaters say they are seven chruches of Christ
joined to answer Featley

he (Featly) calls them anabaptist
just means they demanded folk baptized in infancy in Anglican to be baptized again
thus the hated name given by enemies.
We have been called campbellites but we don't call ourselves that. We call our selves Christians in the church of Christ even though you all may write of us as cult!
Who knows ... you all may take to burning our writings
our tapes are stolen, cameras broken, and we are threatened with the law on regular basis

but we will still never cease to exist
Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

you all would be excited if you could be here and listen to Freedom Baptist try and defend denoms
while Jackie Poe explains the away

all trying to answer us

while Jackie Poe explains them away
he is pentecostal
trying to be community church

Shawn, you can cite a name all you wish but you can not prove that they taught things as you. Did they teach one has the personal indwelling of the Holy Spirit? Or did they teach one has the Spirit by Word only?

Tell us Shawn. Since you were there.

So what was Campbell attempting to reform? And have you not said that you guys broke away from the Christian Church in 1906?

Even if you find a Church referred to as Church of Christ, you have not refuted the points made here. You guys hold to contrary doctrine as you pointed out when you sided with two Church of Christ preachers.

How do you get the privilege to hold opposing doctrines and condemn others for doing the same.

Again, I ask that your FAVORITE brother answer and not you. Your comments are weak and not very interesting. You could give Shawn some dancing lessons perhaps, seeing he constantly tried to dance around the issues. Seriously, we rather have someone more advanced and able to address the issues. You are Old School and not up-dated on the current arguments. I would suggest you visit Mr. Fields Web Site for some insight and better detailed arguments.

Shawn, come on back and answer, we aren’t interested in your side kick.

still love brian edwards john?
not on the phone that night.....
two witnesses heard you.
lee

heyyyyyyyyyyjohnnnnnnnnn.
come out come out wherever you are.

wheres the love john?

Johnny="who says Mat 5:14 means one should be able to show historical references"

While it doesn't explicitly state that there should be references it certainly states that it cannot be hidden, does it not?

Is not the Church referred to as a body or the body of Christ numerous times in the scriptures? Does that not also imply a VISIBLE presence, versus say, a non visible soul or spirit.

Johnny= "I do have references by the way from enemies pen, further back than any of the so-called baptist!"

Who mentioned the Baptist? That's nice and all, but what about the other 1500+ years of Christianity you have to account for.

Do you have something to rival the historical documentation of the Catholics or even The Orthodox?

Johnny wrote:

who says Mat 5:14 means one should be able to show historical references

While it doesn't explicitly state that there should be references it certainly states that it cannot be hidden, does it not?

Is not the Church referred to as a body or the body of Christ numerous times in the scriptures? Does that not also imply a VISIBLE presence, versus say, a non visible soul or spirit.

Johnny wrote:

I do have references by the way from enemies pen, further back than any of the so-called baptist!"

Who mentioned the Baptist? That's nice and all, but what about the other 1500+ years of Christianity you have to account for.

Do you have something to rival the historical documentation of the Catholics or even The Orthodox?

Johnny wrote:

who says Mat 5:14 means one should be able to show historical references

While it doesn't explicitly state that there should be references it certainly states that it cannot be hidden, does it not?

Is not the Church referred to as a body or the body of Christ numerous times in the scriptures?

Does that not also imply a VISIBLE presence, versus say, a non visible soul or spirit.

Johnny wrote:

I do have references by the way from enemies pen, further back than any of the so-called baptist!

Who mentioned the Baptist? That's nice and all, but what about the other 1500+ years of Christianity you have to account for.

Do you have something to rival the historical documentation of the Catholics or even The Orthodox?

Johnny wrote:

who says Mat 5:14 means one should be able to show historical references

While it doesn't explicitly state that there should be references it certainly states that it cannot be hidden, does it not?

Is not the Church referred to as a body or the body of Christ numerous times in the scriptures?

Does that not also imply a VISIBLE presence, versus say, a non visible soul or spirit.

Johnny wrote:

do have references by the way from enemies pen, further back than any of the so-called baptist!

Who mentioned the Baptist? That's nice and all, but what about the other 1500+ years of Christianity you have to account for.

Do you have something to rival the historical documentation of the Catholics or even The Orthodox?

Lets look at what the bible says...

It says the church should be visible, and that the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

It also commands us to "preach" to all nations.

No where does the bible say that Christ Church would be hidden. In fact it proclaims the opposite. Things that are visible are generally spoke of and written of.

So if you believe that the COC is the church spoke of in the bible, how do you enjoin that with:

Matt. 5:14 - Jesus says a city set on a hill cannot be hidden, and this is in reference to the Church.

John 17:21 - Jesus says the visible unity of the Church would be a sign that he was sent by God. Jesus tells us that the unity of the Church is what bears witness to him and the reality of who he is and what he came to do for us.

Furthermore the Bible tells us that people from every nation, tribe and tongue, will not only serve his kingdom, but that they will be in heaven.

That all the more calls for there being records of the Church, even after the bible was completed.

Johnny, where did you go?

*Crickets Chirping*

Johnny?????

*Crickets Chirping*

Since Johnny and Heath have no answers maybe Micah Robertson would like to take a stab at it?

It is after all what his show was on last night.

Or even beautifulfeet?

Anyone?

Johnny you are back today!!

Do you have answers for me?

Funny no one will answer me.

Johnny, Micah, Heath, Beautiful Feet, Mark, anyone?????

*Crickets Chirping*

You are online again today Johnny, having fun with youtube.

Take some time away and come answer my questions please.

almost 30 days now Johnny ....

tick ... tock ... tick ... tock

Will you have a written debate with me? You always claim that you will debate, why will you not debate me?

Perhaps BF will take this offer, seeing he is at least willing to have real discussion her. Johnny will not take your offer.