Gang rape on school campus went on for hours

Freaking horrible. What a nightmare for the girl and her parents. Those that just stood by and watched and laughed are just as heinous and evil as the suspects who did this. Karma will come back to you. Kudos to the 1 person who did the right thing when he/she heard about what was going on.

never did much good for anyone

First, the authorities need to castrate these pathetic m-fers. Then have the trial.

This is a very disturbing story. Hopefully those who walked by and did nothing think of this act everyday and have remourse for doing nothing.

tom wrote:

"Manuel?" Hmm... let me guess, they were all Hispanic.

For Tom, you are a sad individual who instead of seeing the true horror of this story, only focuses on the persons' name who was arrested. Would you have made the same comment had his name been Scott, Chad, or Jim? You need to make some changes to your way of thinking.

Remember when people called the '70's the "Me Decade?" I declare this decade: the "Me Decade on Crack."

my God this is a horrific story.. that poor poor girl... I will pray for her. and to those losers those pitiful wastes of life... you are shamless horrible people.. dont you know God will have his way with you? HOW COULD YOU????????

LB Citizen wrote:

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Despite the underlying racist comments, I believe you are trying to make a point about the influence of a group to be able to do such a horrible thing. I'm sure all of use remember how it was like in high school. No doubt, this could happen to ANY school, white, black, yellow or brown. I've seen some pretty cruel acts from kids to other kids when I was in school.
So blaming it on Mexican's is silly, when this kind of thing happens in all cultures. But I hear what you are saying. When something like this happens you just want to get angry at a group.
A thug, is a thug, is a thug, Mexican or not. May each of those who participated be forced to register as offenders for life.

You are propagating a lie, since the representation of Hispanics in prison on a percentage basis is far and away higher than most other races.
You're also ignoring a social phenomena that is taking place right under your nose. Poor immigrants who come to this country will often tow the line, work for slave wages, and do what they're told. Their CHILDREN, however, don't play that game. They watch TV. They see the "haves," and resent being a "have not." They want the bling, but their parents, being immigrants, don't know the first thing about teaching them how to get it via hard work. Their parents are out of the social loop of America. They're only here to clean up for slave wages. The kids know it. Resent it, and want to be on par with other Americans they see on TV who have "made it."
Even this social phenomena wouldn't be such a big deal, except there are so MANY immigrants, illegal and legal, surging and who have surged into this country in the last two decades, it's only going to multiply as the peasant class of mexicans do what they know: have three or four kids they can't really afford to raise properly, and aren't equipped with the social knowledge or language skills to advise wisely. Too many of them never learn english at all, and speak only spanish in the home.
Illegal immigration is out of control. Plain and simple, and the next wave of immigrants KIDS are what everyone should be worried about. They're frustrated, angry, have no guidance beyond their monthers, who are too exhasted from working slave labor for slave wages to be able to have the time or energy to properly raise their sons and daughters.
So we have gang rapes, and try to tell each other that every culture gang rapes just as much as any other. That mexican peasants are peers of the american middle class, and it's just "one of those things."
That is a lie. Stop propagating it. Doing so is evil, whatever your intent.

Pack Animals wrote:

Excuse me but my comments are not "underlying" racist, they're right up front and on top for all to see.

Well at least your not in denial. LOL!

whatz going on wrote:

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Not a great state of mind for people with an average IQ of 90.
I don't necessarily care who immigrates here on a racial basis, but it seems foolish to import races with standard IQ's that are below par in general. Why do we insist on importing the lowest common denominator from whatever races from third world economies?

Well, I almost would agree with you, if it were'nt for the fact that the "average American IQ is below 90". LOL!

It's true.

I saw a map showing the break down of the average IQ per state. The midwest showing well below 90, with California, Illinois and New York in the upper tier of intelligence, but only slight. LOL!

So if we're going to stop importing folks based on IQ, I say folks here should stop breeding as well.

whatz going on wrote:

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You are propagating a lie, since the representation of Hispanics in prison on a percentage basis is far and away higher than most other races.

Actually, that is not true.

Black males have experienced the highest rate of imprisonment—6.5 times that of white males and 2.5 that of Hispanic males—of the three major races in the United States. Black males also face execution at rates far greater than those for the general population—approximately 4.5 times more than that of white prisoners and 17.5 times that of Hispanics.

In a study of routine traffic stops, racial differences were seen not in stops—blacks and Hispanics were stopped just as often as whites—but overwhelmingly in searches, as blacks and Hispanics were searched nearly 3 times their white counterparts.

-- Source: Project America 2008

"Of the 2.3 million inmates in custody, 2.1 million were men and 208,300 were women (table 9). Black males represented the largest percentage (35.4%) of inmates held in custody, followed by white males (32.9%) and Hispanic males (17.9%).

"Over a third (33.8%) of the total male custody population was ages 20 to 29 (appendix table 10). The largest percentage of black (35.5%) and Hispanic (39.9%) males held in custody were ages 20 to 29. White males ages 35 to 44 accounted for the largest percentage (30.1%) of the white male custody population.

"The largest percentage (35.9%) of the female custody population was ages 30 to 39. Over a third of white females (35.9%) were ages 30 and 39. The largest percentage (36.8%) of Hispanic females in custody was ages 20 to 29."

Source: Sabol, William J., PhD, and Couture, Heather, Prisoners at Midyear 2007 (Washington, DC: US Dept. of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, June 2008), NCJ221944, p. 7.

It is important to address the failure of the citizens to consider the unbelievably obvious negative aspects of the State Party's lust to entice as many Illegals as possible to "choose to colonize our State". Coupled with the FACT that our elected Latinos NEVER even mention assimilation or appreciation to the Illegals.

Democrats used their majority to end any hope for a prosperous future for our State.

How can people not get angry at these human feces,
and voice thier honest opinion of how they feel?
Everyone has a right to say what they feel, and if others can't take it oh well that's your problem.
It really doesn't matter what nationality those feces were, they were just boys with litte weenies taking out thier aggression on a girl because we all know they aren't "MAN" enough to try that crap with a Woman.

LB Citizen wrote:

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Well, I almost would agree with you, if it were'nt for the fact that the "average American IQ is below 90". LOL!
It's true.
I saw a map showing the break down of the average IQ per state. The midwest showing well below 90, with California, Illinois and New York in the upper tier of intelligence, but only slight. LOL!
So if we're going to stop importing folks based on IQ, I say folks here should stop breeding as well.

Well, try breaking down those IQ scores by race, and see what you find out.
I think you'll find that since the prime colleges in California is pretty much dominated by Asians, who enjoy the worlds highest IQ score average, as well as Cali still being the mecca for computer programmers and entrepreneurs, that your most recent conclusion was not very well thought out.
Also, the date of those score tests are important, since we're bringing in more of the lower IQ tier all the time.
Nice try, tho. I can see lying to yourself is very important to feeling good about yourself, so you have your work cut out for you.

It is wrong minded to judge these kids for simply having fun. Since when does our State have any old fashioned Republican standards of accepted behavior. We are Progressive. Pitiful, Pathetic and Progressive.

I hope they find all that were involved and throw the book at those sick f@#ks!!! Oh,and I hope they "get it" in jail many,many times!!! That poor girl,she didn't deserve that!!

LB Citizen wrote:

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Actually, that is not true.
Black males have experienced the highest rate of imprisonment—6.5 times that of white males and 2.5 that of Hispanic males—of the three major races in the United States. Black males also face execution at rates far greater than those for the general population—approximately 4.5 times more than that of white prisoners and 17.5 times that of Hispanics.
In a study of routine traffic stops, racial differences were seen not in stops—blacks and Hispanics were stopped just as often as whites—but overwhelmingly in searches, as blacks and Hispanics were searched nearly 3 times their white counterparts.
-- Source: Project America 2008

Are you on drugs? First you answer a discrepancy you "found" that I never made. I never said blacks weren't higher up on a percentage basis that blacks, yet you respond with irrelevant statistics as if I had.
Do you understand why I'd have to conclude that there's something wrong with you?
Reread my post. Operative words to look for would be "most races."
The topic, just so you can stay focused, is not black crime, it's about an unprecedented wave of immigration, both legal, and illegal, and it's negative effect on this society.
Get your act together, so you don't look foolish.

whatz going on wrote:

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Poor immigrants who come to this country will often tow the line, work for slave wages, and do what they're told. Their CHILDREN, however, don't play that game. They watch TV. They see the "haves," and resent being a "have not." They want the bling, but their parents, being immigrants, don't know the first thing about teaching them how to get it via hard work. Their parents are out of the social loop of America. They're only here to clean up for slave wages. The kids know it. Resent it, and want to be on par with other Americans they see on TV who have "made it."
Even this social phenomena wouldn't be such a big deal, except there are so MANY immigrants, illegal and legal, surging and who have surged into this country in the last two decades, it's only going to multiply as the peasant class of mexicans do what they know: have three or four kids they can't really afford to raise properly, and aren't equipped with the social knowledge or language skills to advise wisely. Too many of them never learn english at all, and speak only spanish in the home.
Illegal immigration is out of control. Plain and simple, and the next wave of immigrants KIDS are what everyone should be worried about. They're frustrated, angry, have no guidance beyond their monthers, who are too exhasted from working slave labor for slave wages to be able to have the time or energy to properly raise their sons and daughters.
So we have gang rapes, and try to tell each other that every culture gang rapes just as much as any other. That mexican peasants are peers of the american middle class, and it's just "one of those things."
That is a lie. Stop propagating it. Doing so is evil, whatever your intent.

I hear you and you have some interesting thoughts that I could buy, but your still pigeon holing a phenomenon that you don't fully understand.

Back in the turn of the century, when Irish, Russian and Asian populations came to America, there was just as many, if not more crime than immigrants today.

Yes, second generation teens with low IQs are a problem. But if you travel to Idaho, Nebraska, you will see many bored, uneducated white teens doing the same thing. And these are 5th, 6th generation Americans.

That's all I'm saying.

It's one thing to base your assumptions on economic struggles, there is a strong correlation between that and crime, but to base soley on race? I think you are hitting a stretch there.

Yes, maybe in some cities, the disporportionate groups of young hispanics can seem like it's escalating, but if you look in many other groups around the world, statistics will vary.

whatz going on wrote:

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Well, try breaking down those IQ scores by race, and see what you find out.
I think you'll find that since the prime colleges in California is pretty much dominated by Asians, who enjoy the worlds highest IQ score average, as well as Cali still being the mecca for computer programmers and entrepreneurs, that your most recent conclusion was not very well thought out.
Also, the date of those score tests are important, since we're bringing in more of the lower IQ tier all the time.
Nice try, tho. I can see lying to yourself is very important to feeling good about yourself, so you have your work cut out for you.

Hey, numbers are numbers are numbers, they don't lie, so you can say the sky is red all you want, but at the end of the day, statistics will say it's blue.

Lastly, my conclusion was no thought of my own, but completely driven by research and rational judgment which produced the results that swayed my own thinking on the matter.

You can think as you wish. Having a difference of opinion, especially if it's well researched out, is not lacking in IQ, on the contrary, not having the facilities to even presume that I'm correct shows a lack of intelligence on your part.

Thanks for playing though. You do have some great points as well as some food for thought.

whatz going on wrote:

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Are you on drugs? First you answer a discrepancy you "found" that I never made. I never said blacks weren't higher up on a percentage basis that blacks, yet you respond with irrelevant statistics as if I had.
Do you understand why I'd have to conclude that there's something wrong with you?
Reread my post. Operative words to look for would be "most races."
The topic, just so you can stay focused, is not black crime, it's about an unprecedented wave of immigration, both legal, and illegal, and it's negative effect on this society.
Get your act together, so you don't look foolish.

Easy tiger. LOL! You sound like you might be smoking a little something, something.

Why are you focusing on black crime all of sudden? You said, and I quote your post, you said:

"You are propagating a lie, since the representation of Hispanics in prison on a percentage basis is far and away higher than most other races."

I just pointed out that you are incorrect in your assessment that Hispanics represent the majority of inmates. Blacks, FOLLOWED by white's do.

Any questions?