Chase ends in gunfire

ya, thats Pat's sister. And why the hell would you low life's verbally run down a mother and father who are grieving the loss of their fist born child?? This is a devastating dark time in our family. Patrick was LOVED. He IS loved still. Forever. You people are sick. Getting a laugh and satisfaction out of a family's tragedy. I wish you degenerates nothing more than KARMA. Let you be in our shoes, and then we will see who is passing judgement. Screw off. You heartless bastards.

'scuse me, should have read "first born"

No it is none of your business after you made the comment about his parents being low lifes who got him into drugs. You are just a nosy bi.ch! And
you make no sense "I happen to know that the mother is ALLEGED..." I guess you are GOD now and know all the facts. WHATEVER!!!I think you woud be worth more value to society than you are now if you were a criminal who stole cars and did drugs. At least your behavior would make sense. What is your excuse now??

Marie R wrote:

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Not sure who you are, but first of all it's really none of your business WHY I care if the family can take care of him decently. Have you any idea how expensive even a modest funeral is? Second, I happen to know that the PARENTS, at least the mother, is alleged to have introduced both of her children to drugs in the first place (I dare say she has a substance abuse problem even as I type this), has been in and out of state prison over about the past 20, leaving her children in the care of whomever for periods of time when they were little, so YEAH, I think placing some blame on the parents in this case is completely justified. Third, although I am not a criminal running the streets getting high and stealing cars, I am hardly unaware of the ways of the world (the word is spelled na-i-v-e), and fourth, you can f**k off.

Then since you just care sooooo much about this whole situation- NOT!!!!!!!!- then you get SARA (correct sp)out of jail. Stop pretending like you actually give a sh.t when your posts prove just the opposite!

Marie R wrote:

I wanted to ask about the girlfriend, Sarah. Anyone know if she has a family that can get her bailed out of jail? When a person is facing these kinds of felony charges, it's always easier to assist in your defence if you're not locked up, so she needs to be out. And for the record, I am NOT necessarily on the side of the cops in this case, and like many others here posting about this incident, think that 15-20 shots fired at Patrick, especially after he had been hit with a taser, sounds very excessive (Sarah's very fortunate they didn't shoot her too). I think this cop policy of automatically classifying a car as a deadly weapon isn't always justified. Not to mention that the cops admit that they didn't find weapons or illegal substances of any kind in the car or on either of them afterward, so I think some of this sounds somewhat fishy, at least at this early stage. There are always two sides, and having known a number of lying cops over the years of my life, I'm glad to hear that the family has attorneys representing them to try and find out what really happened. Even so, Patrick is gone, and tragically, no investigation or lawsuit is going to change that.

BATES wrote:

<quoted text>Maybe if your kid ends up falling in the path of the wrong people and ends up making bad choies because drugs are a very big problem and i dont see it getting better parents may see this type of cops killing our kids differently Maybe we should take down the camaras at the red lights and put up guns because the way you cop loving supporters see it... thats ok

Bobby bates. The only reason you are alive, is that you chose not to ram the BP cops during your twenty or thirty pursuits. But shut up and think about if you did try and hit them. How can you judge the cops. You led them on many high speeders and never even got fired at.

By reading the posts here, it sounds like the friends and family members are a bunch of "winners" here who believe that the normal rules of polite society do not apply to them.

Let's see... Past history of stealing cars, past history of fleeing the police, past history of illegal drugs, past history of being a CRIMINAL.

Why was he soooo desperate to get away? Having a stolen car, trying to run over the cops with it, running after being tazered, then attempting to steal another vehicle, not following the instructions of police?

Let's see what the toxicology reports say.

Memorial Site? Pleezeee. Are you people turning that area into a shrine? Next we will be subject to the fund raising car washes, the "in memory of" window decals for cars, etc.

Feel bad that there are children involved in this situation.

Also... You do not have to be PERFECT to be a normal law abiding citizen.

Again... You can judge the character (or lack of character) of a person by the company they keep. All sound like losers to me or those who want to make excuses for bad behavior.

Gee, I wish I could afford the gas to drive back to Covina to get my car washed and give money to the wonderful Rose family.

Did you notice most people posting here must have flunked high school englesh, speling an writeing.

Molly wrote:

Give me a break! 15 rounds shot at an unarmed suspect!? I knew this man. He served our country in the military and he was not a thug! This alley was like a battle zone. I hope our officers are cleaning up their story, so they can go out and do this again....maybe to one of our sons, brothers, or husbands.

Molly, how were they to know he was unarmed? Next, when he drove at them (and struck their car) his vehicle was a deadly weapon and they had to stop the threat. How would you think they should've stopped him? I guarantee if you were in a cop simulator you would've emptied your gun and not realized it thinking you had only shot once. It's a thankless job and no one wants to do it. You don't get paid millions. Funny thing is that why are they always hiring yet they still can't keep up with staffing? Get out there and apply...then when you're on the job, tell me if you would've done anything different...

READ THE NEWSPAPER ALL YOU HATERS THEN TELL ME IT WAS JUSTICE. BULLS#*T!!! If you still think those cops were justified then your the one with the problem!!!

OK, so what should the police have done if he didn't stop for the red lights, sirens and tazer? Serious, I think they were way beyond asking "Pretty please with sugar on top"...seriously, what would you have done?

littledee wrote:

READ THE NEWSPAPER ALL YOU HATERS THEN TELL ME IT WAS JUSTICE. BULLS#*T!!! If you still think those cops were justified then your the one with the problem!!!

Michael wrote:

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Molly, how were they to know he was unarmed? Next, when he drove at them (and struck their car) his vehicle was a deadly weapon and they had to stop the threat. How would you think they should've stopped him? I guarantee if you were in a cop simulator you would've emptied your gun and not realized it thinking you had only shot once. It's a thankless job and no one wants to do it. You don't get paid millions. Funny thing is that why are they always hiring yet they still can't keep up with staffing? Get out there and apply...then when you're on the job, tell me if you would've done anything different...

If I were a cop I wouldn't of positioned myself directly in front of the fleeing vehicle, unless I wanted to have a justified reason why I shot him!!! Dipsh*#t!! DO US ALL A FAVOR AND GET A LIFE, LOSER.

Michael wrote:

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Molly, how were they to know he was unarmed? Next, when he drove at them (and struck their car) his vehicle was a deadly weapon and they had to stop the threat. How would you think they should've stopped him? I guarantee if you were in a cop simulator you would've emptied your gun and not realized it thinking you had only shot once. It's a thankless job and no one wants to do it. You don't get paid millions. Funny thing is that why are they always hiring yet they still can't keep up with staffing? Get out there and apply...then when you're on the job, tell me if you would've done anything different...

again, when he was shot, he was not in posession of the "deadly weapon". he was out of the vehicle. so, what now. is it ok to shoot a burglar after they have left your house and are completely unarmed? nope. by the way, to the rest of you wonderful armchair jurists, I AM related to Patrick (first cousin, raised for quite awhile like siblings) I DO NOT use any illegal drugs, I am a competent mother and wife, and have NO criminal history. Go ahead check it. So save your assumptions, jacka**.

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Thank you to the cops for saving the taxpayers money. It costs more money to house an inmate in prison than it costs to send him to Harvard.

Like Rodney King, he should've stopped for the ticket and all would've worked out fine...but wait, he was in a stolen vehicle. That sounds to me like he changed the rules...

Mandi in Az wrote:

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again, when he was shot, he was not in posession of the "deadly weapon". he was out of the vehicle. so, what now. is it ok to shoot a burglar after they have left your house and are completely unarmed? nope. by the way, to the rest of you wonderful armchair jurists, I AM related to Patrick (first cousin, raised for quite awhile like siblings) I DO NOT use any illegal drugs, I am a competent mother and wife, and have NO criminal history. Go ahead check it. So save your assumptions, jacka**.

Well there goes your theory when the family wins a multi million dollar lawsuit, which they will!

Daryl F Gates wrote:

Thank you to the cops for saving the taxpayers money. It costs more money to house an inmate in prison than it costs to send him to Harvard.

My God. The criminals supporters are still at it. One constantly hears these bleeding hearts crying for the criminals. They couldn't care the least for the law abiding. What outrage one reads on this post from them, against people whom are fed up with crime. This man's life has been detailed on this post by those who knew him to be that of a career criminal. And if one reads many of their postings, these same people wish harm to others. Not one person, like myself, has threatened the same. Only to the worthless sack of s**t that was finally taken out of the gene pool, only to find that he may have procreated.

Friends of Patrick....please go to www.glennpatrickrose.com . Rest with the angels, Patrick.
We care!

I ask everyone to stop and think a minute. You are in your car, in a parking lot and you hear shots being fired in a very close proximity. Your first instinct is to get out of the area. Now picture this, as you are trying to exit the parking lot, a police car is entering the lot. Without warning, they fear for their lives, and start shooting at you.

First what did you do wrong, and what chance were you given to yield, surrender, or comply? Again put yourself in the victims’ shoes, under the circumstances what would you have done to prevent this tragedy.

I don’t know all of the facts, but right away people jump to the conclusion, these people are gang members, its their fault for going out for a burger at 1:40 in the morning, or they deserved what they got, they should have been at home. Everything being the same, this could have happened at 1:40 in the afternoon, in Anytown or Anycity USA.

Would people feel the same if single-parent mom had just got off of work, was on her way home after picking up her kids from the sitter, and stopped to let one of the children to go to the restroom. Shots are fired, child runs and jumps in the car, mom floors the car to get out of the parking lot. At the same time the police hear shots, sees a person jumping into a car, as the car heads out the police heads in. Then in fear of there lives they blast away. The public would not stand for an innocent child being killed under the exact same sequence of events (leave race out of it.)

I will rephrase my question, if “YOU” were in the situation, what would you do different than the driver of the car that was shot by the police?

Bottom Line,(just incase I don’t come back and reply to any comments to my posting). Both the police and victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I can’t put any fault on the victims, nor can I find the police 100% blameless. An effort needs to be made to find the original shooter and hold that person(s) criminally accountable for this tragic event. Maybe that would put closure on this tragedy.

Former Night Shift Worker wrote:

I ask everyone to stop and think a minute. You are in your car, in a parking lot and you hear shots being fired in a very close proximity. Your first instinct is to get out of the area. Now picture this, as you are trying to exit the parking lot, a police car is entering the lot. Without warning, they fear for their lives, and start shooting at you.
First what did you do wrong, and what chance were you given to yield, surrender, or comply? Again put yourself in the victims’ shoes, under the circumstances what would you have done to prevent this tragedy.
I don’t know all of the facts, but right away people jump to the conclusion, these people are gang members, its their fault for going out for a burger at 1:40 in the morning, or they deserved what they got, they should have been at home. Everything being the same, this could have happened at 1:40 in the afternoon, in Anytown or Anycity USA.
Would people feel the same if single-parent mom had just got off of work, was on her way home after picking up her kids from the sitter, and stopped to let one of the children to go to the restroom. Shots are fired, child runs and jumps in the car, mom floors the car to get out of the parking lot. At the same time the police hear shots, sees a person jumping into a car, as the car heads out the police heads in. Then in fear of there lives they blast away. The public would not stand for an innocent child being killed under the exact same sequence of events (leave race out of it.)
I will rephrase my question, if “YOU” were in the situation, what would you do different than the driver of the car that was shot by the police?
Bottom Line,(just incase I don’t come back and reply to any comments to my posting). Both the police and victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I can’t put any fault on the victims, nor can I find the police 100% blameless. An effort needs to be made to find the original shooter and hold that person(s) criminally accountable for this tragic event. Maybe that would put closure on this tragedy.

What? I don't get it.