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Beer warehouse shooter long complained of racism

Full story: Monterey County Herald

To those closest to him, Omar Thornton was caring, quiet and soft-spoken. He was excited to land a well-paying job at a beer delivery company a few years ago and his longtime girlfriend says they talked of marrying and having children.

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It is always the same excuse for perceived failure. This guy was given a decent job, even received a good promotion (sounds like a raise to me). Then when he returns the favor by stealing, believes his firing was because he is black. Oops, African American. Same old phony excuse, it was racial.
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Truth wrote:
It is always the same excuse for perceived failure. This guy was given a decent job, even received a good promotion (sounds like a raise to me). Then when he returns the favor by stealing, believes his firing was because he is black. Oops, African American. Same old phony excuse, it was racial.
Sounds like that Brendon Fergusson guy
who shot up the LIRR train a few years ago.
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Blacks have had enough of white people satan hateness.Times are a changeing.Blacks cannot go to work in peace.It is time to start fighting. A young black male has to watch fox news keep mess going and lies. The white male population has use dumb sarah palen to the limit.This woman need to be home with her sick child and out of wed lock daughter.We are the laughting stock of the century with palin.We have dumb white males sitting behind a mike all day with stupid people sending money to these lazy two legged animals. This is America.I am with other countries Americans are money hungry sinful fools.People god is going to come through America and destroy the good and the bad.
Spoken like a true ignorant chango.

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Diversion from the truth, he was never on record or had made any complaint about it. And now his family and friends are trying to make him a saint.

He stole and was fired. End of story.
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This incident is truly a tragedy. Thornton railed against perceived racism yet he himself shot up a bunch of co-workers before turning the gun on himself. He was supposedly wanting to marry his longtime girlfriend but instead killed himself after committing a horrendous crime. Instead of taking legal action he decided to solve his problems with violence. This is not helping to give a positive image of the black man in America. He did a real disservice to his "brothers". If this is all that people hear regarding black men in this country, is it really so surprising that some regard them as less?

No, I am not a racist. I am simply saying it is human nature to attribute characteristics to all members of a group based on the behavior of a few. Not right, but real.
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It was a simple fix wrote:
Diversion from the truth, he was never on record or had made any complaint about it. And now his family and friends are trying to make him a saint.
He stole and was fired. End of story.
it's typical Left Wing media tripe to make it seem reasonable to kill 8 White men since the killer thought they were racist. You see racism is so abhorrent in their eyes that even if it was a tragedy the reasoning behind it was just. The mainstream media would never bother with a sympathetic article about the killer if he were White and killed 8 Black men or 8 individuals of any race for that matter. Somehow they are willing to give reasoning for the death of Whites as if they had it coming for some unknown reason.
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Truth wrote:
It is always the same excuse for perceived failure. This guy was given a decent job, even received a good promotion (sounds like a raise to me). Then when he returns the favor by stealing, believes his firing was because he is black. Oops, African American. Same old phony excuse, it was racial.
play the race card. he could have been white and the situation would be the same: workplace discrimination induces employee violence. this is a well studied topic. his reasons have nothing to do with being black, except for the hatred filled discrimination against him. his actions were understandable, if still regrettable.

to quote the article: "Brocuglio's sister, Toni, said Thornton would come home and say co-workers called him racial slurs. He was also upset by comments made by passers-by about the interracial couple, she said.

"He just didn't understand why people had so much hatred in their lives," Toni Brocuglio said."

http://eqwithdenise.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/...

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"What are the risk factors? The FBI tells us that workplace bullying is a high risk factor for workplace violence. So does a great amount of psychological research and occupational research and statistics. We know from OD research that emotional intelligence can be developed and improved and that combinations of improved emotional intelligence, sound conflict resolution skills, high quality diversity training, and workplace cultures that mandate respectful interactions regardless of conflict are protective factors against workplace violence. So, why aren’t all workplaces doing all they can to implement protective factors and prevent risk factors?

We’ll get to that soon. First, an important look at the underlying employee experiences that are not as invisible as they seem if workplaces look for them. Workplaces can only competently address risk factors for workplace violence if they understand how to recognize them. And they can only recognize all of them if they actively look for them.

Workplace violence is preceded by anger, whether in our understanding of the situation that anger seems rational to us or not. We do have a responsibility to understand those workplace situations that produce anger in employees, even if in understanding those situations, we are forced to address uncomfortable realities about the workplace including the existence of various dysfunctions such as disparate treatment, cronyism, needs for diversity training, or needs for a complete overhaul of workplace culture. We must be willing to see these things and address them with intellectual and emotional honesty and integrity. We also must be willing to intervene."
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"Brocuglio's sister, Toni, said Thornton would come home and say co-workers called him racial slurs. He was also upset by comments made by passers-by about the interracial couple, she said.
"He just didn't understand why people had so much hatred in their lives," Toni Brocuglio said."
Maybe you didn't notice this from the article - "Brocuglio, who said she dated Thornton until eight years ago..."

It sounds to me like the Brocuglio sisters were talking about 8 year old discrimination at a different company.

"Thornton was hired for a warehouse job at Hartford Distributors about two years ago and was later promoted to driver."

So let's see - 8 years ago he had some racist crap happen to him at a different company, two years ago he got a job at Hartford Distributors, sometime in that 2 years he was PROMOTED (Is getting a promotion discrimination?), then he stole stuff, was caught on tape and forced to resign then he murdered INNOCENT people.

IF he had not stolen from the company, and if he had documented and reported the harassment through official channels I'd have sympathy for him - IF he hadn't murdered innocent people! If he had evidence of racist acts at work then instead of being a dead man he might have gotten some alleged racists fired and perhaps a financial settlement - IF what the current girlfriend and her mom say is true.

The only thing that I am certain of in this case is that he was a mentally ill man who probably blamed everybody else for his problems, sure maybe he was the target of racist crap, but he should have been smart and sued some people instead of killing innocent people!

He gets no sympathy from me, I hope there is a special place in Hell for him.
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I think Thornton just doesn't like white people, and doesn't like living in a white society. The fact that he has to go shoot a bunch a white guys indicates that he was far more hateful and racist than the people he complained about.

Liberals are ultimately to blame for this. They are responsible for forcing black people to assimilate to a white society. What black people really need tis to have their sovereignty restored. They need to have their own nation and government.

I have no idea what it means to be a minority; and I don't want to know. Of course the Libs have a big plan to make white people the minority and to place "Latinos" in the majority controlling position in America. They refer to this as "social justice." But all sensible people know that liberalism is a mental illness, just like homosexuality.
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It is always the same excuse for perceived failure. This guy was given a decent job, even received a good promotion (sounds like a raise to me). Then when he returns the favor by stealing, believes his firing was because he is black. Oops, African American. Same old phony excuse, it was racial.
Unfortunately, I know the type.
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Maybe you didn't notice this from the article - "Brocuglio, who said she dated Thornton until eight years ago..."
It sounds to me like the Brocuglio sisters were talking about 8 year old discrimination at a different company.
"Thornton was hired for a warehouse job at Hartford Distributors about two years ago and was later promoted to driver."
So let's see - 8 years ago he had some racist crap happen to him at a different company, two years ago he got a job at Hartford Distributors, sometime in that 2 years he was PROMOTED (Is getting a promotion discrimination?), then he stole stuff, was caught on tape and forced to resign then he murdered INNOCENT people.
IF he had not stolen from the company, and if he had documented and reported the harassment through official channels I'd have sympathy for him - IF he hadn't murdered innocent people! If he had evidence of racist acts at work then instead of being a dead man he might have gotten some alleged racists fired and perhaps a financial settlement - IF what the current girlfriend and her mom say is true.
The only thing that I am certain of in this case is that he was a mentally ill man who probably blamed everybody else for his problems, sure maybe he was the target of racist crap, but he should have been smart and sued some people instead of killing innocent people!
He gets no sympathy from me, I hope there is a special place in Hell for him.
read the article more closely.

he said his current company was a racist place. that they treated him and other black employees bad there. understandable anger, poor choice of action. he experienced racism and it made his blood boil. anyone who has been systematically discriminated can understand his intense anger about it. anger which cannot be channeled in a constructive way, produces violence. it's just like the
postal employees who go postal:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_...

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"Over the last few decades, the United States Postal Services (USPS) has suffered a poor reputation from incidents of workplace violence and homicide. A national study was ordered by the Postal Service in the hopes of dispelling occupational fears and directly challenging the purported misconception that postal workers are under greater threat than those who work at other occupations. According to an article by Bob Dart titled Study Calls Go Postal Stereotype Mere Myth, research showed that the USPS employees are no more likely to go postal or commit homicide than other American workers.

Washington Post staff writer Cathy Newman writes in Going Postal? that only 16 of 6,719 workplace homicides were attributed to postal employees between 1992 to 1998. The article quoted Jerry Rubenstein, a psychologist at the University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry, who stated that the public nature of the job led to postal worker homicides being more highly publicized, thus creating a distorted picture of postal workers propensity to commit violence. Intriguingly, a large number of postal employees have embraced this myth, believing that they are at higher risk of dying on the job than others.

In fact, Dart claims that homicide rates in the postal service were considerably lower than in other workplaces, with the retail trade having the highest incidence of occupational homicide. However, although the homicide rates were substantially lower when compared with other occupations, Newman stated that there was a higher risk of stress amongst postal employees, likely due to the drudging daily routine associated with the work. This fact only is a critical variable that could lead to an increase in disgruntled workers and possibly violent consequences."

WORKPLACE HOMICIDE CROSSES RACIAL AND JOB BOUNDARIES.
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I think Thornton just doesn't like white people, and doesn't like living in a white society. The fact that he has to go shoot a bunch a white guys indicates that he was far more hateful and racist than the people he complained about.
Liberals are ultimately to blame for this. They are responsible for forcing black people to assimilate to a white society. What black people really need tis to have their sovereignty restored. They need to have their own nation and government.
I have no idea what it means to be a minority; and I don't want to know. Of course the Libs have a big plan to make white people the minority and to place "Latinos" in the majority controlling position in America. They refer to this as "social justice." But all sensible people know that liberalism is a mental illness, just like homosexuality.
read the article more closely. to quote:

""I know what pushed him over the edge was all the racial stuff that was happening at work," said his girlfriend, Kristi Hannah.

Thornton, a black man, said as much in a chilling, four-minute 911 call.

"You probably want to know the reason why I shot this place up," Thornton said in a recording released Thursday. "This place is a racist place. They're treating me bad over here. And treat all other black employees bad over here, too. So I took it to my own hands and handled the problem. I wish I could have got more of the people.""

he said his current company was a racist place. that they treated him and other black employees bad there. understandable anger, poor choice of action.

he experienced racism and it made his blood boil. anyone who has been systematically discriminated can understand his intense anger about it.

anger which cannot be channeled in a constructive way, produces violence. it's just like the postal employees who go postal:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_...

to quote:

"Over the last few decades, the United States Postal Services (USPS) has suffered a poor reputation from incidents of workplace violence and homicide. A national study was ordered by the Postal Service in the hopes of dispelling occupational fears and directly challenging the purported misconception that postal workers are under greater threat than those who work at other occupations. According to an article by Bob Dart titled Study Calls Go Postal Stereotype Mere Myth, research showed that the USPS employees are no more likely to go postal or commit homicide than other American workers.

Washington Post staff writer Cathy Newman writes in Going Postal? that only 16 of 6,719 workplace homicides were attributed to postal employees between 1992 to 1998. The article quoted Jerry Rubenstein, a psychologist at the University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry, who stated that the public nature of the job led to postal worker homicides being more highly publicized, thus creating a distorted picture of postal workers propensity to commit violence. Intriguingly, a large number of postal employees have embraced this myth, believing that they are at higher risk of dying on the job than others.

In fact, Dart claims that homicide rates in the postal service were considerably lower than in other workplaces, with the retail trade having the highest incidence of occupational homicide. However, although the homicide rates were substantially lower when compared with other occupations, Newman stated that there was a higher risk of stress amongst postal employees, likely due to the drudging daily routine associated with the work. This fact only is a critical variable that could lead to an increase in disgruntled workers and possibly violent consequences."

THE PHENOMENA OF WORKPLACE HOMICIDES CROSSES RACIAL AND JOB BOUNDARIES.
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it's typical Left Wing media tripe to make it seem reasonable to kill 8 White men since the killer thought they were racist. You see racism is so abhorrent in their eyes that even if it was a tragedy the reasoning behind it was just. The mainstream media would never bother with a sympathetic article about the killer if he were White and killed 8 Black men or 8 individuals of any race for that matter. Somehow they are willing to give reasoning for the death of Whites as if they had it coming for some unknown reason.
Same here in Michigan, the news wont even say a race if it is black or other non white race, let a white shop lift here it is all over the news, WHITES SHOPLIFT FROM LOCAL STORE,FILM AT 11.Two recent cases here, one where a group of black full grown men rod a lemonade stand run by three 9 year old white girls and beat on ones mother in front of them when she tryed to stop them, second is a a large group of blacks rob a old white guy that they knew was blind and beat him with his own cane, in both these cases nobody knew who the police were looking for till we saw them in court, but a white guy in Flint commits a crime on blacks it is all over the news " WHITE MAN PREYING ON SMALLER BLACK MEN " true stuff, they went as far as to say smaller black men, full grown men at that, and this is just one white guy, not in a pack of rabid devils robbing kids and beating blind old people. The news is really one sided, the media is racist!
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Given the circumstances, I know for myself whats it's like to be in such situation where you are the minority working in such environment.
The majority of my co workers at work are African/American and these people are pretty tight with each other their all out for their cause and that is the help the fellow brother succeed at what ever it is the brother is doing.
Wether it be running for politcal office,cheating,involed in some sort of illegal activity or scandal, they always tend to stick up for the brother os sister, regardless just as long as they are black and getting away with what ever it is they do which is usually up to no good.
White people no matter what will make racial comments at anyone that is not white,that is a common trait, other whites embrace the African/American community as if they were bred from the same mother.
I think some white people find themselfs in a guilt factor, they are feeling quilty for what their ancesters atrocities against the black man and woman.
In this case seems there was a happy working environment and we'll really never know the whole truth, as to maybe the assailant was under constant
scrutiny may have drove him to become dishonest and way to get back at the company through thievery.
White people tend to make up lies and they back each other up when they are dealing with another none white person, they'll gang up on you if you let them.
To bad this had to happen but it will happen again the bottom line is to keep your eyes open and dont trust no one, even a mexican.
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read the article more closely. to quote:
""I know what pushed him over the edge was all the racial stuff that was happening at work," said his girlfriend, Kristi Hannah.
Thornton, a black man, said as much in a chilling, four-minute 911 call.
"You probably want to know the reason why I shot this place up," Thornton said in a recording released Thursday. "This place is a racist place. They're treating me bad over here. And treat all other black employees bad over here, too. So I took it to my own hands and handled the problem. I wish I could have got more of the people.""
he said his current company was a racist place. that they treated him and other black employees bad there. understandable anger, poor choice of action.
he experienced racism and it made his blood boil. anyone who has been systematically discriminated can understand his intense anger about it.
anger which cannot be channeled in a constructive way, produces violence. it's just like the postal employees who go postal:
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_...
to quote:
"Over the last few decades, the United States Postal Services (USPS) has suffered a poor reputation from incidents of workplace violence and homicide. A national study was ordered by the Postal Service in the hopes of dispelling occupational fears and directly challenging the purported misconception that postal workers are under greater threat than those who work at other occupations. According to an article by Bob Dart titled Study Calls Go Postal Stereotype Mere Myth, research showed that the USPS employees are no more likely to go postal or commit homicide than other American workers.
Washington Post staff writer Cathy Newman writes in Going Postal? that only 16 of 6,719 workplace homicides were attributed to postal employees between 1992 to 1998. The article quoted Jerry Rubenstein, a psychologist at the University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry, who stated that the public nature of the job led to postal worker homicides being more highly publicized, thus creating a distorted picture of postal workers propensity to commit violence. Intriguingly, a large number of postal employees have embraced this myth, believing that they are at higher risk of dying on the job than others.
In fact, Dart claims that homicide rates in the postal service were considerably lower than in other workplaces, with the retail trade having the highest incidence of occupational homicide. However, although the homicide rates were substantially lower when compared with other occupations, Newman stated that there was a higher risk of stress amongst postal employees, likely due to the drudging daily routine associated with the work. This fact only is a critical variable that could lead to an increase in disgruntled workers and possibly violent consequences."
THE PHENOMENA OF WORKPLACE HOMICIDES CROSSES RACIAL AND JOB BOUNDARIES.
Why do you babbel so much? I have yet to hear any other black that works there to come forward and say racism?
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I think Thornton just doesn't like white people, and doesn't like living in a white society. The fact that he has to go shoot a bunch a white guys indicates that he was far more hateful and racist than the people he complained about.
Liberals are ultimately to blame for this. They are responsible for forcing black people to assimilate to a white society. What black people really need tis to have their sovereignty restored. They need to have their own nation and government.
I have no idea what it means to be a minority; and I don't want to know. Of course the Libs have a big plan to make white people the minority and to place "Latinos" in the majority controlling position in America. They refer to this as "social justice." But all sensible people know that liberalism is a mental illness, just like homosexuality.
you obviously have an agenda. just because someone complains about racism that means he doesn't like white people and white society. more likely it means some whites didn't like him and they didn't like a black man in white society.

you obviously have this whole thing backwards.

and don't call me a Liberal, because i am not one.
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I have no idea what it means to be a minority; and I don't want to know.
It shows.
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I have no idea what it means to be a minority; and I don't want to know.
you should want to know. curiosity is the engine of personal growth. ignorance is just plain tragic. to choose to be ignorant is even more tragic.

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He was accused of stealing as there was video of him removing beverages and was not Terminated. Only Certain positions in Bev Distribution are on an Honor System regarding personal alotment which they are able to take home if there is an excess of beverage stored which is past the DATE to deliver; the born on dates and Requirements of Advertising with Corporations ready to cut-off bonuses and extras if fines and violations could occur, as long as only for personal and not reselling or providing for groups and parties. Those who do not receive this 'benefit' are sometimes unaware it exists regardless of 'who & what race' and attack their peers persistently. Was this the case, and staff being asked to change a policy causing some to be disgruntled? Community organizers around the nation have fallen to sublimal messages of bringing forth criticism and hypocritical policy violating terroristic tactics to bring about 'Change' which some hope to hype themselves up for 'their next appearance with media', and we should all reflect on how our likenesses make us angry and disappointed, regardless of whose fault this is determined to be.
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He should have shot his mammie.

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