Justice for toll-skippers

Excuses, excuses. That's what we get every time the Illinois Toll Highway Authority finds itself a million or so citations behind. Full Story
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Jim

Naperville, IL

#1 Mar 19, 2009
The tollway operators are cheats and liars. Another state run agency that is basically a TAX scam upon th citizenry.
Mandy

Westchester, IL

#2 Mar 20, 2009
Jim wrote:
The tollway operators are cheats and liars. Another state run agency that is basically a TAX scam upon th citizenry.
How does the State require you to use the tollway system? It is a user fee road, where the user(driver) makes the choice to use the tollway. The system is not supported with tax-payer dollars. All drivers can use surface roads, maintained with their tax dollars. You pay for your choices in life.
ejo

Chicago, IL

#3 Mar 20, 2009
I can give you my recent experience-I missed a couple of tolls and paid them within the 5 day grace period. Then, I received a violation notice more than a year later. I went to my hearing and the violations were dismissed as I had my proof of payment. It turns out that the Toll Authority did have a record of the paymnents I had made but still sent out the violation notices. That, Mandy, is the reality of Jim's correct statement that the Tollway Authority is made up of cheats and liars like every other political entity in Illinois. I don't know what State you live in but you might want to give the real world a try.
Joe

La Grange Park, IL

#4 Mar 20, 2009
My wife had a couple of missed tolls, the card malfunctioned and I didn't have her plates listed on the card.

Called the tollway, had one of the nicest people you could imagine help me out. She wiped out the late charges and charged my meter the normal 40 cents per toll.

Wish I got her name to let her supervisor know how nice she was, and it was all cleared up in about 5 minutes.
Rick

Elgin, IL

#5 Mar 20, 2009
Mandy wrote:
<quoted text> How does the State require you to use the tollway system? It is a user fee road, where the user(driver) makes the choice to use the tollway. The system is not supported with tax-payer dollars. All drivers can use surface roads, maintained with their tax dollars. You pay for your choices in life.
So that's how you justify the theft and waste over the years(have you seen their Taj Mahal in Downers?). Facilities like this are supposed enhance humans productive time not act as a conduit to government and its employees!
Matthew Brown

Springfield, IL

#6 Mar 20, 2009
Whatever happened to the promise made years ago that the Tollway Authority would be allowed to die and become a freeway?

Proof positive once again there is no such thing as a temporary tax or a permanent press.
sowhat

Northbrook, IL

#7 Mar 20, 2009
Matthew Brown wrote:
Whatever happened to the promise made years ago that the Tollway Authority would be allowed to die and become a freeway?
Proof positive once again there is no such thing as a temporary tax or a permanent press.
George Ryan even said that if we accepted his I-Pass plan, the tolls would be removed within 20 years. Of course, we knew he was a liar and now he is in jail.

Blago implemented the same I-Pass idea without saying that the tolls would eventually be removed (and smeared his name all over the gantries). However, the tapes indicated that he used various proposed toll projects (including the supposed HOV lanes) to strong-arm highway contractors into contributing.

Also, the Toll Highway Authority was a haven for DuPage County politicians, until Blago took over and made it his patronage haven.

So, I suppose you have your choice of criminality. All our governors ever prove is that there is always some way to spend the money, whether justified or not, have never ending construction, and keep rolling over the bonds, so that the Illinois Tollways will never be free, even though stinking politicians so promised.
Ron

Chicago, IL

#8 Mar 20, 2009
ejo wrote:
I can give you my recent experience-I missed a couple of tolls and paid them within the 5 day grace period. Then, I received a violation notice more than a year later. I went to my hearing and the violations were dismissed as I had my proof of payment. It turns out that the Toll Authority did have a record of the paymnents I had made but still sent out the violation notices. That, Mandy, is the reality of Jim's correct statement that the Tollway Authority is made up of cheats and liars like every other political entity in Illinois. I don't know what State you live in but you might want to give the real world a try.
What do you mean you missed a couple of tolls? What you didn't see them? Your a cheat and you got caught.
ejo

Chicago, IL

#9 Mar 20, 2009
Ron, you are a true idiot. do you work at the Toll Authority or just have some less intelligent relative there. If you weren't an idiot, you would realize you can send in your toll payments within 5 days if you are caught short. They even have a Division called the Cash Handling Division that does it. If you do that, you don't get a violation (is that a simple enough explanation or do I have to go to the 1st grade level). The rest is pretty simple-perhaps not simple enough for you but I expect you are a standard chicago voter.
Dave

United States

#10 Mar 20, 2009
These companys that are supposed to be collecting the fines are scamming people. I drive a semi truck and when i go through a ipass i pay for the tractor and trailer. All the sudden i start getting toll violations for the plate# and a picture of the back of the trailer. Since the plate on the truck and trailer are different i guess they figure they can scam people into paying twice. It got to the point where i had to sit on the phone with these dopes for 2 hours a week to straighten this out and i'm about ready to get rid of my ipass altogether and start paying cash again.
Full disclosure

Chicago, IL

#11 Mar 20, 2009
sowhat wrote:
<quoted text>George Ryan even said that if we accepted his I-Pass plan, the tolls would be removed within 20 years. Of course, we knew he was a liar and now he is in jail.
Blago implemented the same I-Pass idea without saying that the tolls would eventually be removed (and smeared his name all over the gantries). However, the tapes indicated that he used various proposed toll projects (including the supposed HOV lanes) to strong-arm highway contractors into contributing.
Also, the Toll Highway Authority was a haven for DuPage County politicians, until Blago took over and made it his patronage haven.
So, I suppose you have your choice of criminality. All our governors ever prove is that there is always some way to spend the money, whether justified or not, have never ending construction, and keep rolling over the bonds, so that the Illinois Tollways will never be free, even though stinking politicians so promised.
I do not recall Ryan ever saying that he would remove tolls. That was Blago....
Dave

United States

#12 Mar 20, 2009
Ron wrote:
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What do you mean you missed a couple of tolls? What you didn't see them? Your a cheat and you got caught.
I guess you don't have ipass Ron. Sometimes when you go through ipass the transponder on your windshield doesn't register or your account ran out of funds (it replenishes only once a day), the ipass computer still takes a picture of your plate and sends you a fine and you have 5 days to take care of it. Thats what he meant by "missed" tolls.
Full disclosure

Chicago, IL

#13 Mar 20, 2009
Ron wrote:
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What do you mean you missed a couple of tolls? What you didn't see them? Your a cheat and you got caught.
You can easily miss tolls. I missed one because the traffic was so heavy that it was backed up out of the change only lanes out into the I-Pass lanes. I had just merged onto the tollway and was already past the end of the line and when I tried to get in there was nowhere to get in and no one would cut me a break (this is Chicago, populated by people like you). I tried waiting but with traffic zooming up on my a ess ess it was a risk to my family's life so kept going. I do not live in Chicago but that experience forced me to get an I-Pass which I now use all of 2-3 times a year just because Chicago would rather have an opportunity to gouge out of towners for fines rather than make it easy for them to pay the tolls. Obeying the law should not be difficult. Unless you are in Chicago where fines are an expected part of city revenue. Really, who is going to drive hours to fight a toll or parking ticket (see the parking meter problems in this edition). easy money for the city.
joe

Chicago, IL

#14 Mar 20, 2009
Aren't the tollways supposed to be "freeways" by now? That was the original promise/plan so many years ago, remember?

Instead in typical Illinois fashion, they created a giant self serving bureaucracy full of political shenanigans. We the people are faced with ever expanding bills for these fancy toll plazas to collect more money to pay for the bureaucracy, waste, fraud, and long lost "freeways".

Abolish the Toll Authority. Revolt.

Since: Apr 08

Huntsville, TX

#15 Mar 20, 2009
tolls are a 2 civil matter, and need to have a 2 year max time to act.
Just think back, to a time when the tolls were just to pay off the road, not forever.
I guess I should be glad little Dick Dailey has not found a way to lease the tolls roads and let Chicago pocket the cash. it makes no matter that City of Chicago did not own it to start with.
True Dat

Naperville, IL

#16 Mar 20, 2009
How's this for a solution: wipe the slate clean and start anew. A one-time amnesty. Nope, instead the greedy tollway commission would rather spend millions of dollars on man hours to collect all the money they think they are due. This reminds me of the incident a couple years back where the Skyway tolls broke down and instead of declaring amnesty for that one day, they created a huge traffic backlog as they manually collected tolls from everyone, causing delays of 3+ hrs into the city that morning. Bunch of greedy bastages. If you do not have the technology to immediately enforce tolls and levy penalties in a timely fashion, then tough sh it. There has to be a statute of limitations on abuse like this and a 30-day period would accomplish that.
J News

Crystal Lake, IL

#17 Mar 21, 2009
Full disclosure wrote:
<quoted text> I do not live in Chicago but that experience forced me to get an I-Pass which I now use all of 2-3 times a year just because Chicago would rather have an opportunity to gouge out of towners for fines rather than make it easy for them to pay the tolls.
Trust me on this when I tell you that Chicago would be more than happy if you downstaters would co-operate for once in your life and permit us to get rid of the tollways. The tollways are imposed on Chicago by downstaters who want all *their* interstates for free, but heaven forfend we get anything for free up here!
Homer Ballard

Westchester, IL

#18 Mar 21, 2009
J News wrote:
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Trust me on this when I tell you that Chicago would be more than happy if you downstaters would co-operate for once in your life and permit us to get rid of the tollways. The tollways are imposed on Chicago by downstaters who want all *their* interstates for free, but heaven forfend we get anything for free up here!
The interstate highway system is payed by MFT'S and other forms of taxation, with the exception of toll roads. The toll roads are completely USER supported and receive zero in any form of tax dollars. This actually saves the non-user taxpayer money in Northern Illinois.
J News

Crystal Lake, IL

#19 Mar 21, 2009
Homer Ballard wrote:
<quoted text> The interstate highway system is payed by MFT'S and other forms of taxation, with the exception of toll roads. The toll roads are completely USER supported and receive zero in any form of tax dollars. This actually saves the non-user taxpayer money in Northern Illinois.
That's exactly what I said -- my MFT pays for freeways for downstaters, who in turn won't allow my MFT to be paid for freeways for me -- no, I have to pay user fees on top of my MFT. The only people who "benefit" from this are the people who are stuck in the 1950s who think that using the interstate is still an optional part of life.
Homer Ballard

Westchester, IL

#20 Mar 22, 2009
J News wrote:
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That's exactly what I said -- my MFT pays for freeways for downstaters, who in turn won't allow my MFT to be paid for freeways for me -- no, I have to pay user fees on top of my MFT. The only people who "benefit" from this are the people who are stuck in the 1950s who think that using the interstate is still an optional part of life.
There are more than two-hundred miles of interstate freeway in this six-county area of Northern Illinois. Add to that over 3400 miles of free state highways within the same geographic area. You have many options other than toll roads. Quit whining and pay, or just stay off and use the "free" roadways.

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