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why employers willnot hire a convicted felon

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Ali

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Sep 30, 2009
 

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I personally think that society is so stereotypical and so "messed up" that they don't even consider people who made mistakes actual humans. They think since you made a mistake once you will do it again. Some felons that are convicted were just at the wrong place at the wrong time. The fact that their looking for a job should be proof enough to the employer that they have changed and that they deserve a second chance. I myself am 17 and I was convicted at the age of 16. I now understand how big of a mistake I made and the only reason I made that mistake was out of necessity, my family was on the verge of going homeless. But now that I have paid back my debt to society and now that I have corrected myself people just won't give me a chance. People actually push me to go back to jail, because out here its worse than in there. I feel that everybody deserves a second chance.
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#65
Oct 1, 2009
 
i think American prisons are the place to go where someone with a diploma in petty crimes go to get doctorates in violent crimes. In other words, our prisons are suppose to be for reformation, instead prison does not reform people and keep them from going back. Prisons institutionalize a person and keep them going back.
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Oct 4, 2009
 
The REAL Truth wrote:
well i guess its just more punishment. Ppl dont like to have others work for them if they have already proven in their life that they cannot do right. I myself own a business, and i do not hire anyone for any reason that has a felony on their record. Im sorry but that is and will be the way employers do things. Ppl want trustworthy, honorable, hardworking ppl to work for them. Everyone gets a chance to prove themselves in life. No matter what situation u are in from birth, everyone gets a chance to prove themselves. Your son has proven himself to be a felon. From a mothers stand point, you see your son and a changed man, but from the community and the employers standpoint, we see a person who has already screwed up. I live my life by an old saying that my father told me and i do this still to this day, "Give them a second chance, but not a third". But in the business world, ppl with records, dont get a second.
Would you hire ST. Paul? Jesus? St. John ? Read your Bible and maybe you will understand/////
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#67
Oct 4, 2009
 
Jesus was convicted . Would you hire Him? Judge Not least ye be judged...
JustMe

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#68
Oct 26, 2009
 
It's all about choices. People need to THINK before they choose to do something that will land them in prison. No one's fault but their own.
just wondering

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#69
Oct 27, 2009
 
what do you think about the march, they recently had in magnolia?
just wondering

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Oct 27, 2009
 
what do you think about the march they recently had in nmagnolia?
DallasWilliam

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#71
Oct 27, 2009
 
You know, 20 years ago, I wrote three bad checks. I received 5 years probation and was ordered to pay the checks back. I was 19 at the time, and didn't have a job, so I couldn't pay the money back,so the probation was revoked and I got 10 years in prison.

Life is all about choices, we make bad choices and we make good ones. I made a bad choice.

I paid the victims back in full, I did my ten years in prison, and I am still punished everyday of my life.

The way I look at this issue is this: Lock someone up if they break the law. Give them a sentence that fits their MO. If a judge thinks a person will commit a crime 20 years down the road, then that person should be locked up longer than 20 years. Once a person does his time, he should have all of his rights restored. If he isn't worthy of having his rights, he should still be in prison.

Many of you believe in Jesus, and you know he would forgive you of a sin, why can't America after a convict has served his time.

An eye for an eye is the right way. I would have made different choices as a 19 year old if that was the law.
unbelievable Illinios

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Nov 10, 2009
 
Acerdic wrote:
"well i guess its just more punishment. Ppl dont like to have others work for them if they have already proven in their life that they cannot do right. I myself own a business, and i do not hire anyone for any reason that has a felony on their record. Im sorry but that is and will be the way employers do things. Ppl want trustworthy, honorable, hardworking ppl to work for them. Everyone gets a chance to prove themselves in life. No matter what situation u are in from birth, everyone gets a chance to prove themselves. Your son has proven himself to be a felon. From a mothers stand point, you see your son and a changed man, but from the community and the employers standpoint, we see a person who has already screwed up. I live my life by an old saying that my father told me and i do this still to this day, "Give them a second chance, but not a third". But in the business world, ppl with records, dont get a second.
I live my life by an old saying that my father told me and i do this still to this day, "Give them a second chance, but not a third". But in the business world, ppl with records, dont get a second."
You admit that you do not live by what your "dear daddy" says then do not bother to mention it. You are obviously nothing more than a superficial nincompoop guilty of the most horrid of offenses; improper grammar. Spell check does offer second chances to check your work and those who do not bother to better themselves when given the opportunity are the... you.
I am a manager and I know that not everyone learns from their mistakes whether it involves breakong the law or not. I do however believe in second chances..maybe not a thrid time but definitely a second. It is a shame that more people do not give second chances. I was under the impression that the only prefect person was Jesus.
Alan7161

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#73
Nov 19, 2009
 
Myself , I have been denied employment based on felony convictions for work I have done for over 12 years after my job was sent to China . Most of them employers that wont hire felons have gays and mixed race relationship people on the payroll . I didn't hear the judge say anything about denial of employment for the rest of my life . Looks like the only way anything will ever get done about it is for felons to take the law into their owen hands .
just wondering

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#74
Nov 19, 2009
 
he without sin cast the first stone, i don't know anyone on this earth that has not done something wrong, i am glad that God forgives, and looks beyond our faults
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Nov 19, 2009
 
just wondering wrote:
he without sin cast the first stone, i don't know anyone on this earth that has not done something wrong, i am glad that God forgives, and looks beyond our faults
So if an employer decides to hire the person who hasn't been convicted at a criminal over one who has, he (the employer) is the one with a problem?
Welcome to 2009.
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Nov 21, 2009
 
Get Real wrote:
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So if an employer decides to hire the person who hasn't been convicted at a criminal over one who has, he (the employer) is the one with a problem?
Welcome to 2009.
That is not what i am saying, i said that the lord looks beyond our faults and he sees our needs, everyone deserves another chance in life to prove himself, and if they don't do the right thing the second time around, then that's another story.
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Magnolia, AR

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#77
Nov 22, 2009
 
Who want's to work with havoc-filled ghetto hoodlums?
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Sunday Nov 22
 
Steve wrote:
I own a business and will NOT hire a convicted felon. We all make mistakes but that is one I will not make! I have a family that works in and around my business and I will not risk there safety or my own for a felon. There are things you can do, but not for me. Feeding my family is the number one priority in my book...I can't be looking over my shoulder all the time and wonder if I am getting ripped off. I have had a few convicts in my employ and it never once worked out for the best.
First of all her son was not convicted of theft, murder, etc. He was convicted for selling drugs and he probably was making more cash than you. So therfore you would'nt have to worry about looking over your shoulders,. Because he would'nt be a threat to you nor your family. Unless you guys were drug addicts.
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#79
Monday Nov 23
 
i think that everyone deserves a chance, altho if i were a store owner i probly wouldnt let a convicted thief run a register for me right at first. but if they prove trustworthy i dont see a problem. you just have to use common sence on it. dont hire a sex offender at the daycare etc. lol.
but in reality i have worked along side many excons, some were good people, some were not. they have to prove thierselves and if they can, good for them.
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Wednesday Nov 25
 
The REAL Truth wrote:
well i guess its just more punishment. Ppl dont like to have others work for them if they have already proven in their life that they cannot do right. I myself own a business, and i do not hire anyone for any reason that has a felony on their record. Im sorry but that is and will be the way employers do things. Ppl want trustworthy, honorable, hardworking ppl to work for them. Everyone gets a chance to prove themselves in life. No matter what situation u are in from birth, everyone gets a chance to prove themselves. Your son has proven himself to be a felon. From a mothers stand point, you see your son and a changed man, but from the community and the employers standpoint, we see a person who has already screwed up. I live my life by an old saying that my father told me and i do this still to this day, "Give them a second chance, but not a third". But in the business world, ppl with records, dont get a second.
I am fuming reading some of the comments. Sometimes when you are young you make stupid decisions, and I agree there are some felons that are just going to reoffend, but then you have some that just made bad decisions and have learned from them and should have a chance to restart their life once they have paid for their crime. We are supposed to be Christians and not judge people.
Judge Dredd

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Friday Nov 27
 
Next time maybe you criminals will learn that crime does not pay!
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Wednesday Dec 2
 
The REAL Truth wrote:
well i guess its just more punishment. Ppl dont like to have others work for them if they have already proven in their life that they cannot do right. I myself own a business, and i do not hire anyone for any reason that has a felony on their record. Im sorry but that is and will be the way employers do things. Ppl want trustworthy, honorable, hardworking ppl to work for them. Everyone gets a chance to prove themselves in life. No matter what situation u are in from birth, everyone gets a chance to prove themselves. Your son has proven himself to be a felon. From a mothers stand point, you see your son and a changed man, but from the community and the employers standpoint, we see a person who has already screwed up. I live my life by an old saying that my father told me and i do this still to this day, "Give them a second chance, but not a third". But in the business world, ppl with records, dont get a second.
1:5 Americans have a criminal record
Give_them_a_chan ce

Aliso Viejo, CA

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Sunday Dec 13
 
The REAL Truth wrote:
Well expecially now a days, drug charges mess up everything. Im deeply sorry for your family, but if he is going to find a job, it is ganna be a job in a mill or factory working for min wage. Felony drug charges are a automatic turn down. And being honest about that was the best thing, because if he lies, they will find out and only make things worse
I am astounded you are as narrowminded as you are. Everyone deserves a second chance AFTER their debt to society is paid. You cant go n punishing someone for life on a minor offense.
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