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Jun 23, 2008

Loudon County Liquor Issue Revived

A direct mail campaign by a group called Citizens for a Better Loudon County hopes to put a referendum on the November ballot that would allow sales of packaged liquor within the county and Lenoir City.

It's not the first time such an initiative has been proposed in Loudon County. In 2006, a similar initiative failed at the ballot box.

Direct mail fliers were mailed last week to residents in Loudon County and Lenoir City. Up to two registered voters in each household can sign the petition. The flier includes a pre-paid return postage card for those who support putting the issue on the ballot. Backers of the proposal say they have the approval of state election officials.

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Well...let's see....Are we really calling out Barry Gordon,Ed Bell, and John Tuck?

It seems to me that the "Good Ole Boy" system seems to be a little miffed...because maybe I don't know they didn't think of it!!

These are very educated and good men....Can we say that for some of the great politicians and law enforcement in this county.

I guarantee that I know one HIGH ranking official who might be build a liquor store.....but only after these guys take the heat for awhile.
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Amen, people are just extremely jealous of any men in this town that make something for themselves. They are jealous of power and success (personally I think it has always been that way). They don't want anyone to have more then they have, so they try and run them into the groung. You go Barry, Ed, and John!!!!!

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Livin22Good wrote:
Well...let's see....Are we really calling out Barry Gordon,Ed Bell, and John Tuck?
It seems to me that the "Good Ole Boy" system seems to be a little miffed...because maybe I don't know they didn't think of it!!
These are very educated and good men....Can we say that for some of the great politicians and law enforcement in this county.
I guarantee that I know one HIGH ranking official who might be build a liquor store.....but only after these guys take the heat for awhile.
You are right that those 3 men aren't part of the good ole boy political heirarchy in Loudon County.
I would happily trade Guider, Arp, Brookshire, and the county school board for them.

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Livin22Good wrote:
Well...let's see....Are we really calling out Barry Gordon,Ed Bell, and John Tuck?
No, I don't think so.
I didn't do that in the article, and I don't see it anywhere in the blog either.

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Amen, people are just extremely jealous of any men in this town that make something for themselves. They are jealous of power and success (personally I think it has always been that way).
Matt, would you like some cheese to go with that "whine"?
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I need more booze....
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You are right that those 3 men aren't part of the good ole boy political heirarchy in Loudon County.
I would happily trade Guider, Arp, Brookshire, and the county school board for them.
You got that right Barrron. I love Dr. Gordon. He has taken care of my pets for years and he
doesn't over-charge like some of the vets around here. Ed Bell has been a part of the community for years and has given back more than he has ever taken. I don't know the Tuck fellow. Everyone knows what Guider (Aikens, Russ Johnson & certain judges) have done to our law enforcement reputation in the county by their selfishisness, dishonesty, and greed. Brookshire and crew are on target to destroy a little town that was on its way of being great. Brookshire's kid attitude is going to mess up everything. Arp messed up when he put himself above our children's education and safety.
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Whatever.
This is about all the ca$h the$e three can get their hand$ on.

The peddler of liquid dope is no different about that than the peddler of powder dope.
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That doesn't mean I am going to vote for the liquor stores just because I have nothing against the guys that are working to get it on the ballot for us to vote on. It did not pass the last time and I suspect it will be the same thing this time. If this thing does pass, and they do build the stores, at least our county will see the tax and not Farragut and Knox County. I guess if a person wanted to invest in the business he would have the same opportunity as they would. I still don't see it passing but there are pros and cons both ways.
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I'm honestly conflicted about this issue. The last time it came up, I wrote in support of the ballot initiative. I'm not going to do that this time because the truth is that I just don't know how I'll vote.

On the 'anti' side, I understand the arguments both ways. Will local sales of packaged liquor result in more consumption and all the attendant suffering that comes with increased alcohol consumption? I don't know. There is data to support both positions. All other arguments aside, I am drawn to the 'anti' argument simply because of the small town feel of the county. I adore that feel and hate things that drag the county into the metropolitan / urban crapper that other places have become.

On the 'pro' side, prohibiting the sale of a legal product because it might offend some strikes at the fiercely independent libertarian in me. I don't like government and I like it even less when its telling people that they can't do things because someone else might object. To me, in order to limit individual liberty, the government should have to carry the legal burden of proving a vital and compelling public interest. I don't think they can do that with respect to the sale of booze. If there is such a public interest, then it should be illegal - PERIOD! No matter who sells it. I am drawn to the 'pro' argument just because I think people should have power - not governments.

As far as the 'three amigos', I wouldn't know any of them if I ran over them with my car. It seems to me that business is business. They think the local market has a leak, and they're willing to invest in hanging a bucket under that leak. Its no different to me than the whole isle of cool beer in the Loudon Rite Aid (good luck trying to find a cold soda or gator aid there).

I hope smarter people than me can figure this one out.
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Get these Lenoir City folks some more booze and maybe they will quit doing so much meth!....
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Thelma Lou, what does Guider, Brookshire, or Arp have to do with this article? Please try to stay on task.
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Uhhhhhhhh I wasn't talking to you Matt..I was talking to someone else that said they would trade you for the gentlemen that was circulating the petition for the liquor stores. Stay on task and read all the post then you will know what we are talking about. Duhhhhhhhh!
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Forkball wrote:
Whatever.
This is about all the ca$h the$e three can get their hand$ on.
The peddler of liquid dope is no different about that than the peddler of powder dope.
You need to check your stats about these three men....They don't need the money. Can any of our politicians in this county say the same????? I think not...Let's see the mayor of Lenoir City is a puppet for just about anybody that will scratch his back, while the rest do I really need to go there.
Dr.Gordon, Ed Bell, and John Tuck really don't need the money. They are VERY successful business men. So lets not make out to be greedy men like the ones that run this county.
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Thelma Lou wrote:
Uhhhhhhhh I was talking to someone else that said they would trade you for the gentlemen that was circulating the petition for the liquor stores. Stay on task and read all the post then you will know what we are talking about. Duhhhhhhhh!
What? READ IT AGAIN!! THEY SAID THAT THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE GOOD OLE BOY SYSTEM MS. THELMA. Plus, I doubt Matt could give two poops less what YOU think of him!!!!!!!!!

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Let the truth be known wrote:
<quoted text> Plus, I doubt Matt could give two poops less what YOU think of him!!!!!!!!!
We know better than that.
Napoleon obsesses about such things constantly!
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Alright David, you have accused me of being Terry, Shannon, and Matt now. Keep them coming!!

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David Divelbiss wrote:
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We know better than that.
Napoleon obsesses about such things constantly!
The guessing is over. The loyalty around you has apparently cracked. I got an e-mail telling me who you are. Your name is Matt Brookshire.

One a lighter note, I'm glad you finally figured out that I am not Debbie Cook #13.
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Could someone from K-town bring me a drink? We don't want anyone from LC to make any money unless it is goverment funded!!!!

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Livin22Good wrote:
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You need to check your stats about these three men....They don't need the money. Can any of our politicians in this county say the same????? I think not...Let's see the mayor of Lenoir City is a puppet for just about anybody that will scratch his back, while the rest do I really need to go there.
Dr.Gordon, Ed Bell, and John Tuck really don't need the money. They are VERY successful business men. So lets not make out to be greedy men like the ones that run this county.
If we're talking about motives, then "Greed" and "Need" are certainly not the same thing.
A lot of people who "don't need the money" are out there chasing it anyway.

John Gotti didn't need any more money - but was willing to kill for it.
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