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wild Bill
Beattyville, KY
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Suz wrote: GOOD FRICKIN" GRIEF!!! Thanks for the heads up I will not visit Grapevine lake anytime soon,and YES, something should be done about this.Not because it's homosexual but anyone commiting lewd public acts should be arrested! BINGO- Suz made the point! Take your sex somewhere that no one can see. Who wants to watch that crap should go get a video.
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ENGLANDER
Bognor Regis, UK
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Public toilet and out in the open sex is what sodomites/homosexuals/gays, do, it is their life style, its a sickness, there is no cure.
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Phil
Athens, AL
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wild Bill wrote: <quoted text> BINGO- Suz made the point! Take your sex somewhere that no one can see. Who wants to watch that crap should go get a video. Suz, looks like you gots yourself a little pet. Clearly this individual cannot read the other comments saying the same thing, if not better.
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jake winslow
Frankfort, KY
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I agree on getting rid of the gays. I didn't know it was a gay hangout, just thought it was an underused lake. Then I saw all the guys just hanging out, and I got the creeps. Later (this was last year or so) I saw that they were having a bike path ride for parents and their kids in grapevine. I packed my wife and kids (too young to bike) and took her with me in case some gay guy tried to assault me, and we went in there and saw that there are two bike paths. Now, why would any organization hold a biking event in that place is beyond me. My wife and I saw several single guys just hanging out, waiting for "something" to pop up. I don't have a problem with gays, per se, but why ruin a whole park? There aren't any parks around here being ruinded by heterosexuals, are there? If so, please tell me with good directions. Just kidding. Get a hotel room. Or reserve a spot in hell. Not kidding about that last comment.
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IKA Elder Member
Slaughters, KY
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Well im damn drunk right now and when im drunk i get some real good ideas in my head and ill tell you what we need to do out there at that grapevine lake and what we need to do is get us some live cage traps and set them out in the woods and catch us about ten or twelve of the biggest mean-ass raccoons in the country and then we feed them racoons some of that methampheftamine stuff and get them torked up real good and we hide the cages out there in the weeds where they cant be seen and hook a pull rope to the doors of them cages and we all hide in the bushes and wait for all those homos to show up and then we pull the ropse and watch those racoons attack and eat them crazy homos now bygosh thats what we do.
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christie
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Or how about we keep this simple like I suggested before. If you see them call the police. Those of you doing the dirty...DO IT AT HOME.
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wild Bill
Madisonville, KY
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Suz wrote: GOOD FRICKIN" GRIEF!!! Thanks for the heads up I will not visit Grapevine lake anytime soon,and YES, something should be done about this.Not because it's homosexual but anyone commiting lewd public acts should be arrested! Hey Suz; You got it right all lewd public acts should be reported. Maybe we should take a pail of water and throw it on them? Naw just a 911 call will do. I just hope some one will come from the coffee shop to check it out.
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JUST ME
Centertown, KY
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I bet 1/2 the cops in this town would join the queers and like it!
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Since: Nov 09
Frankfort, KY
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JUST ME wrote: I bet 1/2 the cops in this town would join the queers and like it! you are so wrong. It's probably more like 3/4 or better...
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wild Bill
Nebo, NC
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It is time to put a stop to this PUBLIC sex. 911--"We have people having sex out in the open" Please send a officer to stop this.
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Tammy thought
Chapel Hill, TN
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IKA ELDER MEMBER wrote: For once i will have to agree with Phill. This has been a very disgusting ongoing problem. I have heard many rumors about Grapevine Lake and the sickos who frequent that area. A couple years ago there was even a website with a picture of two naked men (you could see thier naked butts) and they were holding hands looking out acoss the lake. The website was an advertisement for queers all across the country to come out to Grapevine Lake for anonymous gang related booty humping activities. From what i understand there was this dead horse found laying out there one time. The vet who did the autopsy said those gay sickos had drugged it with pain pills and had gang raped it til it was dead. It didnt have a butt hole left. Im serious. Thanks! Attention all Gays!!!! This is why we get so upset with your crap!! Booty butting a horse to death. I own two Horses. If I found someone abusing a horse you better hope the police get there before me. Because I will go to Prison for MURDER!
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John Wylan
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I am homosexual and I would never have sex in public, nor would I have sex with an animal like a horse. Yet there are straight people who would do both and already do both. So why aren't you bad mouthing them as well? You can't group the whole gay community into one group of deviants just because there are some that are deviant. The same with people who are straight.
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Since: Nov 09
Frankfort, KY
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John Wylan wrote: I am homosexual and I would never have sex in public, nor would I have sex with an animal like a horse. Yet there are straight people who would do both and already do both. So why aren't you bad mouthing them as well? You can't group the whole gay community into one group of deviants just because there are some that are deviant. The same with people who are straight. all gay people are deviant. All gay people are abnormal. If normal means that more then 50% of the population are one way, then that means the smaller group would not be normal. Not name calling--basic math. 92% of the population is right handed. Left handed people, then, are abnormal. 98% of the population are not psychotic. Therefore, the 2% that are psychotic are abnormal. See how that works? And since the greatest estimate of homosexuals puts their numbers at 10%, they are abnormal. When the average flips flops, then straights will be abnormal. Sure, I am willing to bet that there are straight people that have sex with horses or whatever, but I don't know of a single place in this country where straight people congregate to have anonymous sex with whoever is there. Grapevine Lake in tiny Madisonville, bath houses in SF, numerous places everywhere else. Gay sex, and anonymous public showings seem to go hand in hand. We are not railing against homosexuality. We are railing against losing a beautiful lake and bike trails because we can't take our kids out there to fish without seeing guys casting their rods and other guys dangling fishing worms in their mouths, all without the benefit of any fishing gear. But don't get on trying to defend your lifestyle. There is no defense. It is a sin. And though we are not supposed to judge (which, you know, we do at every election...go figure), it is not making a judgement to tell you that you are a sinner and good luck when you die. If they happen to turn a nice little park where you live at into a whorehouse, then jump right back into this discussion, because then you will know what we feel like.
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jumper
Hanson, KY
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Tru Ride or Die
Owensboro, KY
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meadiling is worst than murder...and can get you murdered why not let the popo deal with the crazy grapevine ppls seriously if ya see it and dont like it be a snitch if ya plez and call the law... but just think about how many of you in a male female relationship have had sex in a public place, outside, and of corse enjoyed it... so is this really about having sex outside or about gays having sex outside?
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allfags gotohades
Madisonville, KY
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Tru Ride or Die wrote: meadiling is worst than murder...and can get you murdered why not let the popo deal with the crazy grapevine ppls seriously if ya see it and dont like it be a snitch if ya plez and call the law... but just think about how many of you in a male female relationship have had sex in a public place, outside, and of corse enjoyed it... so is this really about having sex outside or about gays having sex outside? First, it's about spelling. Without proper spelling, you just come off like an idiot, and then no one bothers to listen to your arguments. And the reason we "Snitch" is because with all the action happening around there, you can't have a family day there. But...you wouldn't understand that, would you? And I am sure you have had sex in public...hookers are not much on getting a house, are they? But, since that is what you like, keep it in owensboro, okay?
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John Wylan
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I don't support the activity at Grapevine Lake either, but to say that straight people never have sex in public would be an outright lie. I've seen it for myself at the Madisonville City Park taking place and if you go back a couple pages through this thread, there is another person who is straight that is admitting to doing the same thing in the old treehouse. I am with you when you say this type of behavior should be kept behind closed doors and not performed in public.
However, our definitions of "deviant" differ. Deviance in a sociological context describes actions or behaviors that violate cultural norms. In this area of the country, homosexuality might not be the widely accepted, but in other communities it is widely accepted, so I wouldn't necessarily say it violates the social normality. Under your definiton, people who are left handed, people who pick their nose, people who wear 70's clothes, people that vote Independent, would all be considered deviants. I don't believe that to be the case. We can argue all day and go back and forth on definitions, but it's really pointless.
And again I believe your wrong when you say my lifestyle is a sin. I never chose to be gay. I was born this way. If being gay is a sin, then why did God make me this way? Gay people make it easier to see the difference between hateful Christians and loving, accepting Christians. The God I worship endorses loving, committed, monogamous relationships, regardless of the gender of those involved. God is interested in our relationships with ourselves, others, the things in our lives, and with God. There is nothing in the mind of God that could be against a loving, sexual relationship, freely entered into, without coercion, among sincere adults whether gay, bisexual or straight. If homosexuality is a sin, then so is shaving and wearing clothes of different fibers if you take everything so literally. I'm not sure how you interpret the Bible or how it was taught to you, but this is the way I interpret and have been taught.
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allfags gotohades
Madisonville, KY
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John Wylan wrote: I don't support the activity at Grapevine Lake either, but to say that straight people never have sex in public would be an outright lie. I've seen it for myself at the Madisonville City Park taking place and if you go back a couple pages through this thread, there is another person who is straight that is admitting to doing the same thing in the old treehouse. I am with you when you say this type of behavior should be kept behind closed doors and not performed in public. However, our definitions of "deviant" differ. Deviance in a sociological context describes actions or behaviors that violate cultural norms. In this area of the country, homosexuality might not be the widely accepted, but in other communities it is widely accepted, so I wouldn't necessarily say it violates the social normality. Under your definiton, people who are left handed, people who pick their nose, people who wear 70's clothes, people that vote Independent, would all be considered deviants. I don't believe that to be the case. We can argue all day and go back and forth on definitions, but it's really pointless. And again I believe your wrong when you say my lifestyle is a sin. I never chose to be gay. I was born this way. If being gay is a sin, then why did God make me this way? Gay people make it easier to see the difference between hateful Christians and loving, accepting Christians. The God I worship endorses loving, committed, monogamous relationships, regardless of the gender of those involved. God is interested in our relationships with ourselves, others, the things in our lives, and with God. There is nothing in the mind of God that could be against a loving, sexual relationship, freely entered into, without coercion, among sincere adults whether gay, bisexual or straight. If homosexuality is a sin, then so is shaving and wearing clothes of different fibers if you take everything so literally. I'm not sure how you interpret the Bible or how it was taught to you, but this is the way I interpret and have been taught. god made serial killers, too. Doesn't mean he likes them. Doesn't mean they are going to heaven. I never said left handed people are deviant. I said they are abnormal. If 52% of the population is one way, the rest are abnormal. You twisted it to deviant. Homosexuality is deviant, and abnormal. And you do have a choice. I am native american. I have a predisposition to alcohol. I choose not to drink it. I am drawn to it, I don't handle it well, and I love it. Once I realized this is a problem for me, I chose not to drink. God created me with a tendency to drink, but through his strength, I am able to abstain. Homosexuality is a choice. It is not a condition. If it were a condition, we would know the gene that causes it, or the brain pattern that shows up. There has only been one study that "suggested" that homos are physically different (causing the homosexuality), and that one study has never been duplicated, and it didn't work with women. Since there are no physical differences, it is only a choice. Until you can prove it, until you can show a paper that states with valid scientific testing that it is a condition that is born in, it is a choice. And the day you do prove it isn't a choice, that there is a gene, then that will be the day that I endorse abortions. Selective abortions.
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John Wylan
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Serial killers have the choice to kill or not. I didn't have a choice in being gay. Credit it to an undiscovered gene of some type or credit it to the way i was raised or my enviroment, which I had no choice in making, but I assure you that I didn't have a choice in this matter. It's just the way it came to be. 20 years ago cloning of humans or animals weren't possible, and tomorrow you may be told differently as to why gays are the way they are. Science is discovering new things everyday, but I can say 100% it was not a choice.
Why would millions of people pretend to be gay? So they could put up with ridicule and hate from people like you? Yea, that sounds like a smart thing to do. I think I decided to be gay today so I can get called a fag or a queer. I want to be belittled by macho guys who are too tough to ever be gay. I hope you note the sarcasm.
And if you classify left handed people as abnormal, then by your definition you can also classify them as deviant. I already think I made a pretty valid argument as to why gays are not considered deviant. If you don't think so, then you better check your dictionary again.
By the way, I love the name change. Like I said last time, gay people make it easier to see the difference between hateful Christians and loving, accepting Christians and my God would consider your behavior a sin in this matter.
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allfags gotohades
Madisonville, KY
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John Wylan wrote: By the way, I love the name change. Like I said last time, gay people make it easier to see the difference between hateful Christians and loving, accepting Christians and my God would consider your behavior a sin in this matter. You are absolutely right--your god would consider my behavior a sin...but that is not the god who is our Heavenly Father. Serial killers don't have to kill. The choice is the choice to kill. The predisposition to kill is there, but deciding not to kill is a choice they make. Many serial killers pass up a chance to kill...why? Choice. Maybe there are witnesses. It doesn't matter--they are in control of their choices. Sissy boys who want to do the nasty with each other have that same choice--just being a sissy doesn't mean you have to have sex with other guys--you choose to. And don't be mad at me because the bible says you are a sinner. I didn't write the book. I just follow it. Dress for the beach when you get buried...you are going to a lake. just for the record...god doesn't love you. You disappoint him. If my son should come to me one day and says he's gay, like the Lord, I will cast him from me. It's the only right thing to do.
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