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Accused: Threat prompted slaying

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The accused triggerman in the ambush slaying of a 25-year-old man in Manor told Westmoreland County detectives he was angry because the victim threatened to rape his girlfriend earlier that week.

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Brenda

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Apr 7, 2007
 
FYI..ALL LIERS...INCLUDING AMY AND ALTMAN. ALTMAN
IS VINSEK'S COUSIN AND AMY'S BOYFRIEND.HE WENT TO
JAIL FOR A WHILE FOR THE ROBBERY!!MURDERS??INVOLED?SOME PEOPLE CAN GET AWAY WITH MURDER!!
I HOPE IT HAUNTS THEM ALL FOR THE REST OF THEIR
LIVES.
fob

Cleveland, OH

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#2
Apr 27, 2007
 
I know Bill and I know he would not of beed stupid enough to return to Amy &
Jennifer's apartment after Jason & the
pig Jennifer confronted him at clear
waters. Patrick and Amy, most likely
are involed some how. Think about all
the nights events. Read all the news
paper articles.Amy was the one who
called Bill on the railroad tracks!!
She was a bar keep who states she is
a friend of Bill's!! I have know him
since we were 4 yrs old, never seen
or heard of anyone involed!! Someone
or maybe two people are getting away
with being involed. Jennifer was not
Bill's girlfriend,just a very sick
person who wanted to use him to get
Jason back.
passion

Pittsburgh, PA

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#3
Apr 29, 2007
 
fob wrote:
I know Bill and I know he would not of beed stupid enough to return to Amy &
Jennifer's apartment after Jason & the
pig Jennifer confronted him at clear
waters. Patrick and Amy, most likely
are involed some how. Think about all
the nights events. Read all the news
paper articles.Amy was the one who
called Bill on the railroad tracks!!
She was a bar keep who states she is
a friend of Bill's!! I have know him
since we were 4 yrs old, never seen
or heard of anyone involed!! Someone
or maybe two people are getting away
with being involed. Jennifer was not
Bill's girlfriend,just a very sick
person who wanted to use him to get
Jason back.
THEY ALL NEED LOCK UP AND THOW AWAY THE KEY.THE WHOLE GANG IS NUTS. WHAT A WAST OF TAX PAYERS MONEY. THE FUNNY THING IS THEY WILL GET OUT. WHY BECAUSE THE LAW DON'T CARE .THEY WILL GET OUT AND KILL AGAIN.I BET IF IT WERE A JUDGE FAMILY .HE WOULD BE PUT AWAY OR ON DEATH ROW. THIS GOOFIE LADY JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW DUMB MEN ARE, THEY ALWAYS THINK WITH THE ONE EYE BLINE BRAINLESS HEAD. NOW LOOK AT THE MESS IT GOT YOU INTO. NO MAN OR WOMEN IS WORTH KILING OVER. THIS THING THEY CALL A LADY OR SOME CALL A PIG FROM WHAT I'M READING HAS A GOLD MINE! AND KNOWS HOW TO USE IT. GOT SOME ONE MURDERED OVER HER STUFF. WHAT A JOKE.
One of her exs Pa

Cleveland, OH

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#4
May 3, 2007
 
A Threat is not something you have someone
murdered over. I know jennifer, this is a
way of life for her.She had someone beat
the shit out of me!!Put me in the hospital.
She needs help! She has a little boy..she
could care less about!!I should of went to
the Police. I did let Bill's Mom know, I
will help,in any way I can!!!DEATH ROW!!
FOR JENNIFER!!!
One of her exs Pa

Cleveland, OH

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May 3, 2007
 
passion wrote:
<quoted text> THEY ALL NEED LOCK UP AND THOW AWAY THE KEY.THE WHOLE GANG IS NUTS. WHAT A WAST OF TAX PAYERS MONEY. THE FUNNY THING IS THEY WILL GET OUT. WHY BECAUSE THE LAW DON'T CARE .THEY WILL GET OUT AND KILL AGAIN.I BET IF IT WERE A JUDGE FAMILY .HE WOULD BE PUT AWAY OR ON DEATH ROW. THIS GOOFIE LADY JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW DUMB MEN ARE, THEY ALWAYS THINK WITH THE ONE EYE BLINE BRAINLESS HEAD. NOW LOOK AT THE MESS IT GOT YOU INTO. NO MAN OR WOMEN IS WORTH KILING OVER. THIS THING THEY CALL A LADY OR SOME CALL A PIG FROM WHAT I'M READING HAS A GOLD MINE! AND KNOWS HOW TO USE IT. GOT SOME ONE MURDERED OVER HER STUFF. WHAT A JOKE.
YOU ARE CORRECT!!!MANY PEOPLE WILL
DIE AT THEIR HANDS!
Confused

Houston, TX

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May 3, 2007
 
One of her exs Pa wrote:
<quoted text>YOU ARE CORRECT!!!MANY PEOPLE WILL
DIE AT THEIR HANDS!
(No one should take this post as anything but a fact finding post. I am not on any side I am just trying to do some research on this subject. I am a criminal justice student who happens to know Jason and I am trying to make sense of everything from a law standpoint)
FACT: JASON MAPLE COMMITTED MURDER
FACT: JENNIFER VINSEK SAID THE VICTIM WAS GOING TO RAPE HER
FACT: THE OTHER ACCUSED WERE THERE THAT NIGHT AT SOME POINT
FACT: THE OTHER ACCUSED DID NOT GO TO THE POLICE RIGHT AWAY

ok so from researching this story these are the only facts that have been proven so far.
So my questions are:
Why are so many of you claiming to know the truth of what happened that night, where you there?
Why are you assuming these others accused are murders like Jason?
Do you know for a fact that they didn't try to stop Jason and couldn't?
Do you know them personally?
Have you spoke with them since after that night?
You call them liars, but then how do you know that for a fact?
Why is it so hard to belive that they could of been at the wrong place at the wrong time?
Why is it hard to belive that Jason would of commited this murder even if those people were not there?
And when you say for the accused to tell the truth, is that the version of the truth that you think you know?
If not then why couldn't what they are saying now be the truth?
And if these people are found innocent will you able to accept that as the truth or will you still harbor your version of the truth?
Have you gotten all your information from the press?
Do you belive in our justice system?
What about innocent until proven guilty?
Do you belive that no matter why those others where there that night that they should be prosecuted anyway for guilty by assocaition?

Again I want to state this is not to attack anyone, these are just questions that are brought up in many cases like this. I have seen innocent people rot in jail because everyone wanted to belive they were monsters. These people could very well be monsters and they could very well not, I am just trying to understand why you are so quick to pin them as monsters when the facts haven't been found yet, and you have the real monster. I leave you with one thought, you all say you want justice, well if in fact these other people had no idea what Jason was going to do that night and had no other involvement other than being at the wrong place at the wrong time, and they are convicted of murder IS THAT JUSTICE?

BILLYS MOTHER

Cleveland, OH

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May 30, 2007
 
Confused wrote:
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(No one should take this post as anything but a fact finding post. I am not on any side I am just trying to do some research on this subject. I am a criminal justice student who happens to know Jason and I am trying to make sense of everything from a law standpoint)
FACT: JASON MAPLE COMMITTED MURDER
FACT: JENNIFER VINSEK SAID THE VICTIM WAS GOING TO RAPE HER
FACT: THE OTHER ACCUSED WERE THERE THAT NIGHT AT SOME POINT
FACT: THE OTHER ACCUSED DID NOT GO TO THE POLICE RIGHT AWAY
ok so from researching this story these are the only facts that have been proven so far.
So my questions are:
Why are so many of you claiming to know the truth of what happened that night, where you there?
Why are you assuming these others accused are murders like Jason?
Do you know for a fact that they didn't try to stop Jason and couldn't?
Do you know them personally?
Have you spoke with them since after that night?
You call them liars, but then how do you know that for a fact?
Why is it so hard to belive that they could of been at the wrong place at the wrong time?
Why is it hard to belive that Jason would of commited this murder even if those people were not there?
And when you say for the accused to tell the truth, is that the version of the truth that you think you know?
If not then why couldn't what they are saying now be the truth?
And if these people are found innocent will you able to accept that as the truth or will you still harbor your version of the truth?
Have you gotten all your information from the press?
Do you belive in our justice system?
What about innocent until proven guilty?
Do you belive that no matter why those others where there that night that they should be prosecuted anyway for guilty by assocaition?
Again I want to state this is not to attack anyone, these are just questions that are brought up in many cases like this. I have seen innocent people rot in jail because everyone wanted to belive they were monsters. These people could very well be monsters and they could very well not, I am just trying to understand why you are so quick to pin them as monsters when the facts haven't been found yet, and you have the real monster. I leave you with one thought, you all say you want justice, well if in fact these other people had no idea what Jason was going to do that night and had no other involvement other than being at the wrong place at the wrong time, and they are convicted of murder IS THAT JUSTICE?
WE HAVE BEEN IN A COURT ROOM 9 OUT OF THE 12
MONTHS, SINCE MY SON'S MURDER!! DON'T QUESTION ME!!!
COME TO THE TRAILS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THE PRESS!!ONLY
THE FACTS!!
Confused

Houston, TX

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Jun 4, 2007
 
You just made my point, your mind is already made up on what the verdict is and there has not yet been one trial. And I must say once again how can anything be considered fact when in fact there has not yet been a trial to prove or disprove anything?
BILLS MOM

Toledo, OH

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#9
Jun 8, 2007
 
Facts...Facts...
BILLS MOM

Wellington, OH

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Jun 24, 2007
 
BILLS MOM wrote:
Facts...Facts...
CONFESSION OF JASON MAPLE WILL STAND!!! CONFUSED,
GET A LIFE!! MAYBE YOU SHOUD FIND A NEW CAREER!!!
FRIEND OF JASON MAPLE,HE CONFESSED..TRUTH..NOT A
FACT,PER JUDGE DEBRA PEZZE..THANK YOU!!SEE YOU ALL IN COURT, WHERE THE FACTS,ARE BEING PROVED TO
BE TRUTH!! NOT ALL FACTS WILL BECOME TRUTH!!BUT MOST FACTS ARE!! FACTS FROM THE COURT ROOM, NOT THE PRESS!!
Kelly

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Jun 26, 2007
 
Confused wrote:
You just made my point, your mind is already made up on what the verdict is and there has not yet been one trial. And I must say once again how can anything be considered fact when in fact there has not yet been a trial to prove or disprove anything?
Don't need a trial to prove guilt....Jason confessed! That means GUILTY!!!! He has said himself that he's guilty!! What more proof do you need? You are free to have your own opinions but until your loved one is murdered keep it to yourself!
BILLS MOM

Marion, OH

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Jul 14, 2007
 
THANK YOU..NO ONE KNOWS!! UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO YOU!!NOTHING WILL BRING MY BILLY BACK! I JUST
NEED THIS PART OF OUR NIGHTMARE OVER!I MISS MY
SON SO..........MUCH!! NOBODY KNOWS!!!!HE WAS
THE ONLY PERSON WHO LOVED ME FOR ALL OUR LIVES! HE WAS THE ONLY PERSON, I HAD TO LOVE ME FOR 24 YEARS 26 DAYS. I LOVE AND MISS HIM!!
passion

Pittsburgh, PA

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Jul 15, 2007
 
Bills mother,what breaks my heart is when you raise your kids. you try to keep them safe by teaching them who & where not to be with.it comes to a point you have to just leave it in gods hands. they don't know the heartache they bring to us as parents. when we loose them like this. if !!!!!!!!!is always the question. the young people live a hold different life style then we did. they have no fears . to them they think they are invincible. when you see bad & wrong around you leave it. if the person in your life is disrespecting you .leave them .why do so many young people feel to be important they have to be around low life or black souls .to be some body. when they choose bad company , they end up in jail or dead. don't blame yourself. hes was over 18 years old. you knew your son. he chose the bad over the good. this is something i pray ill never have to experience .peace & light. i do not keep blinders on. if mine go to jail or get in some horrible mess .ill tell them i love you. but you get yourself out of it.every parent knows their child. some choose good ,some choose bad. and when they mix it with the ugly out in the world.it only ins up in disaster. for the whole family. my heart gos out to you. many prayers for your son. God Bless. plant a seed for justice.
BILLS MOM

Brunswick, OH

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Aug 8, 2007
 
passion wrote:
Bills mother,what breaks my heart is when you raise your kids. you try to keep them safe by teaching them who & where not to be with.it comes to a point you have to just leave it in gods hands. they don't know the heartache they bring to us as parents. when we loose them like this. if !!!!!!!!!is always the question. the young people live a hold different life style then we did. they have no fears . to them they think they are invincible. when you see bad & wrong around you leave it. if the person in your life is disrespecting you .leave them .why do so many young people feel to be important they have to be around low life or black souls .to be some body. when they choose bad company , they end up in jail or dead. don't blame yourself. hes was over 18 years old. you knew your son. he chose the bad over the good. this is something i pray ill never have to experience .peace & light. i do not keep blinders on. if mine go to jail or get in some horrible mess .ill tell them i love you. but you get yourself out of it.every parent knows their child. some choose good ,some choose bad. and when they mix it with the ugly out in the world.it only ins up in disaster. for the whole family. my heart gos out to you. many prayers for your son. God Bless. plant a seed for justice.
BILLY, DID NOT CHOOSE THE BAD, OVER GOOD!
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Mar 6, 2008
 
Most disturbing," the complaint says, "was the intentional refusal by the Commission to review, assess, or further investigate clear evidence of illegal actions taken by Senator Clinton (directly and through agents, including the President), while at the same time purporting to forever exonerate Senator Clinton, her 2000 Senate campaign, and their agents of any possible wrongdoing" in connection with Paul's contributions.

Paul contends Sen. Clinton's participation in soliciting performers and planning the Hollywood event would make his more than $1.2 million in contributions a direct donation to her Senate campaign rather than to a joint fundraising committee, violating federal statutes that limit "hard money" contributions to a candidate to $2,000 per person. Knowingly accepting or soliciting $25,000 or more in a calendar year is a felony carrying a prison sentence of up to five years.

Paul points out Sen. Clinton's legal team and a judge have made a point over the past six years of insisting that she had no knowledge of the preparations for the Hollywood event, including at the Rosen trial. Clinton-appointed U.S. District Judge A. Howard Matz declared the senator had "no stake in this trial as a party or a principal" and was "not in the loop in any direct way, and that's something the jury will be told."

But since the conciliation agreement, Paul has recovered from U.S. attorneys a videotape he made of a July 2000 phone call he claims shows Clinton taking an active role in the production of the fundraiser.

Meanwhile, Paul ? who claims former President Clinton destroyed his entertainment company to get out of a $17 million agreement ? is petitioning the California Supreme Court to review a recent appeals court ruling upholding a decision to remove Sen. Clinton from the case.

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Mar 6, 2008
 
BILLS MOM wrote:
THANK YOU..NO ONE KNOWS!! UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO YOU!!NOTHING WILL BRING MY BILLY BACK! I JUST
NEED THIS PART OF OUR NIGHTMARE OVER!I MISS MY
SON SO..........MUCH!! NOBODY KNOWS!!!!HE WAS
THE ONLY PERSON WHO LOVED ME FOR ALL OUR LIVES! HE WAS THE ONLY PERSON, I HAD TO LOVE ME FOR 24 YEARS 26 DAYS. I LOVE AND MISS HIM!!
My sympathies, I know how you feel. My stepdaughter was beat to death a little over a year ago and the scum that did it was finally sentenced last week after pleading guilty to 3rd degree murder. While I am glad to see him go away for 7-14 years it changes nothing, I still don't have my little girl back. My heart goes out to you and I hope you get the justice for your son that you deserve.
BILLS MOM

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Apr 19, 2008
 
bob wrote:
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My sympathies, I know how you feel. My stepdaughter was beat to death a little over a year ago and the scum that did it was finally sentenced last week after pleading guilty to 3rd degree murder. While I am glad to see him go away for 7-14 years it changes nothing, I still don't have my little girl back. My heart goes out to you and I hope you get the justice for your son that you deserve.
Thank You, My heart goes out to you also.I am getting ready for the second trial May 7, 2008. I am having a very hard time deqaling with this nightmare!
christine

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Apr 21, 2008
 
b, god bless you and ease your pain. i wish you peace and strength during the ordeal ahead. no one can imagine your heartache. there are no words to help you thru the shooters trial.
may billy guide you and give you strength. he will be at your side. we will stay posted to this site and all the rest to see that justice is hopefully served.

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Apr 24, 2008
 

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I don't care who you are there is no p*ssy or d*ick in the world worth what they all got....death and prison.
My prayers are with the families of all involved.
christina

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May 21, 2008
 

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i know jenn amy and bob. bob and amy r trouble makers they got what they wanted and that was jenn in jail. i hope they can sleep at night because they r both liars. jenn's a good person she would never do what they said she did
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