created by: Glock | Dec 31, 2008
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It has been my experience on these forums that those who support Democrats get very upset when you say anything negative about Obama or any other Democrat. They constantly tell you that it is unpatriotic to not support a President. They also keep reminding everyone that Obama isn't President yet. OK, so if it's unpatriotic to insult a President, then Obama doesn't count yet, does he? However, they spend most of their energy putting down Bush and spewing insults about him. Did they forget that he is still President? Who is unpatriotic now?
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“Do NOT Feed the Trolls!!!” Since: Jul 08
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Glock,
I saw that precident begin during Bush's tenure - if you criticized him or the Iraq war, you were being unpatriotic. Most of the rhetoric I hear attributed to anti Obama is if you are against him, you must be racist, which is of course silly. |
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I do not think that it is “unpatriotic “ to assess any elected official on their decision making process… and then come to an intelligent conclusion and judgement about their competence ...on the other hand… personal attacks…racial slurs… and or character assassinations are not very helpful…
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Actually, not supporting the President or the war was not considered unpatriotic. That is what Liberals use to describe not supporting the Troops. They change the wording to fit their agenda and feed it to the Liberal Press for all of the masses to soak in to convince people that the Republicans are responsible for everything and we need "Change" to fix it. What is that change? A Democrat, just ask one, they will tell you. Not Supporting the "troops" is what IS unpatriotic. The Troops are just following orders like they took an oath to do and should be fully supported by all Americans. Those orders are signed by the Congress and carried out by the President. The Troops are the unfortunate ones that have to do the dirty work. Also, there have been many labels put on those that oppose Obama, more than we have mentioned in this thread, which of course are all silly. The point that I am trying to make is that Obama supporters go around insulting and labelling anyone that doesn't agree with them and if you say 1 thing that they disagree with, you are instantly labelled. That is ridiculous and childish and only shows that the person doing the labelling and insulting are clueless and can't find a legitimate answer for the post. |
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Exactly. Agreed 100% |
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If you disagree with the direction the president is taking the country, it is unpatriotic not to criticize the president. Sitting idly by while your country goes to hell or Iraq is deeply unpatriotic, as it shows an unwillingness to look out for the nation's best interest.
If your attack on the president is based on race/class/ ethnicity/religion, etc. it may make you an ignoramus but doesn't reflect on your love of country, only your intelligence. |
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Is it unpatriotic for a president to put down a country?
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1. That's just false. 2. He's not the president yet. However, there are many sore losers that attack him when, in fact, they have nothing to attack. I suggest waiting to see how he does correcting the Bush screw ups or at least until he has some record as president before judging him. Bush has provided us with plenty of ammo. Just look at the state of the country. I know, it was all the democrats fault, Bush didn't count. 3. Bush deserves every insult he gets. |
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It is my experience that Glock only sees what Glock wants to see, whether it's real or not. |
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I take "put down" to mean insult, and yes, I do find that unpatriotic. I prefer not to discuss who I supported in the Presidential election, but I will note that I never insulted any other candidate. I may have disagreed with their views on things, and I would have been happy to talk about them if asked, but personal attacks and the like are just outright uncalled for (unfortunately, it seems like I'm the only one who feels this way sometimes, considering what I had to listen to a relative say about my chosen candidate prior to the election). There's no reason people can't be civilized about things, after all.
And I've heard people on both sides, Republican and Democrat alike, throw the term "unpatriotic" around. Neither party is innocent. |
Then I guess ALL of these Democrats are unpatriotic according to your post: http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.... http://www.youtube.com/watch... They not only agreed with going to Iraq but, said that it was necessary and backed up the decision to go. Of course, they changed their tune somewhere along the way and deny ever supporting it. But, as we know, their statements and the videos speak for themselves. The camera doesn't lie but the Politician does and the sheeple are foolish enough to believe them. After watching the video in the link that shows these politicians making these statements, to deny it would be lying to yourself and everyone else. |
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1. That's just false.- No it isn't and you and Lowell Guy's posts prove it beyond a doubt. 2. He's not the president yet. However, there are many sore losers that attack him when, in fact, they have nothing to attack. I suggest waiting to see how he does correcting the Bush screw ups or at least until he has some record as president before judging him. Bush has provided us with plenty of ammo. Just look at the state of the country. I know, it was all the democrats fault, Bush didn't count.- This statement is exactly what I was talking about. Everything is Bush's fault, he was a 1 man show? You say Obama isn't President yet. However, he is all over the TV saying, "My Fellow Americans, Hope and Change, this is a message from the office of the President Elect." Yet he appoints a bunch of old Cronies from the Clinton Administration and his history shows him voting with the Democrats 97% of the time. So, his history indicates the he will be status quo and his current actions support that. Let him have some record of being President before judging him? How about he has some record of anything before electing him? 3. Bush deserves every insult he gets.- The same Administration that has kept you and your family safe since 9/11/01. Yet you want the person that you say isn't even President yet to be respected. However, you refuse to respect the person that is in office because you disagree with some of the policies. Obama has earned no respect, he has no accomplishments and is claiming to be Mr. Change while proving to be Mr. Status Quo- Before even taking office. I could only imagine how bad it's going to be one he is in office. We WILL be attacked once your Messiah is in office, his own VP said it. He won't keep us safe. Unfortunately, more Americans will die on US Soil than ever before and the complacent Clinton Administration that is being appointed won't do a thing. That's the "change" that we are going to have, we will go from diligent back to complacent and we will become weaker as a result and the attacks will become more frequent as a result. But, that's OK, we'll just take the Liberal approach and deny it all. That way it will be just like it never happened. Maybe we can Hope our way through it or something. Our country has commited "Hopeicide" Hopeicide- Self-induced death by virtue of "hoping" for something promised that can't be delivered by the promiser and never will be. Inevitable side-effect from Hopeicide is "Change" from bad to worse. |
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It is my experience that Lowell Guy is really just a Forum Troll. His posts NEVER contain any substance and all that he does is insult people while sayg that he disagrees. He never has any reason or information to back up his comments. Lowell Guy, you must be a lonely old man with nothing in your life but a computer. You should change your handle to "Troll Guy" to better match your function. Either that or you can try to further your 6th Grade education and learn something other than just putting people down to make yourself feel better. Basically, all that you do is go around and taunt people to solicit a response, you posts have no substance at all. Do you actually have any knowledge or are you just so immature that all that you can do is bounce from thread to thread saying nothing at all? |
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100% CORRECT! These attacks will also contribute to our economy and make it even worse. We will ose life and more money in the process. We are up Shite's Creek and Obama is the wrong boat. Hope will not keep us afloat without someone rowing that has shown any accomplishments that would or even could benefit the country. |
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1. The Bush years, policies, actions were a disaster. 2. Well, is he? 3. What part of your statement is inaccurate? 4. The Clinton years were some of the best. Budget surplus and the stock market was fantastic. We do we have to show for the Bush years? Nothing, actually, less than nothing. 5. Wrong. If the country were to follow the status quo, it would continue on the same pathetic and disasterous path it is on now. Status quo = current, or existing state of affairs. I'm really happy that John McBush lost the election. That would have been the status quo. |
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Well, lets see, all we heard for eight years from the Bushies was you are "unpatriotic" if you do not support Bush and now that Obama is going to be president, they claim that they never stated this and it is their patriotic duty. Bunch of hypocrites. I won't be link the Bushies and be a hypocrite. It is not unpatriotic to put down a President.
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The Clinton Years were some of the best because he followed a Republican with their policies. You don't see the effects of any Administration's policies until after they have left office. Things don't work that fast. He ignored the problems and didn't have to deal with them while he was there. He refused to take Bin Laden into custody in 1996 after the first WTC Bombings, He passed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and made loans affordable to those that can't afford them immediately before he left office which is the single largest contributor to the Economic Crisis today. As far as the Status Quo. Let me re-phrase that to say POLITICS AS USUAL. Because that is all that someone that is appointing Old Clinton Cronies to office and has voted along party lines 97% of the time has to offer. Especially someone like Obama that has no other relevant experience or accomplishments to back him up. Why would he have to follow party lines if he was a leader and/or had any experience of his own? You Libocrats fail to understand a very basic principle, Leaders Lead and Obama has failed to lead thus far, he has only followed as a Junior Senator from the most corrupt Political Machine in US History. His Slogan means nothing if he has accomplished nothing to show that he is capable of producing his stated promise of "Hope and Change" and I still don't know what we are hoping for either. |
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Wrong! You rephrased the statements made by the Bush Administration. It is fine to not support a President. That has been happening since the founding of our Nation and it is unpatriotic not to voice your opinion of a President when you disagree. The Bush Administration said that it is unpatriotic to not support the "troops." Which it is. You got bamboozled by the Libocrat Propaganda machine and the way that they re-word things to fit their agenda once again. These are the same Libocrats that once said that they agreed that Iraq had WMD and we need to go there and take care of it and have since changed their tune: http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.... So, whatever they are telling you now, be assured that they will be telling you something different during the next election - if it will get them votes. |
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Don't forget, these are the same Liberal morons that voted for Obama after getting their information from SNL. They still think that Palin said that you can see Russia from her House. She actually said from Alaska, not her "porch." They still believe the lie about Palin saying that Africa is a Country and alot of them still believe it today. But they don't believe that Obama thinks that there are 57 states even though there are videos of it all over the place. They are easily blandished by the rhetoric that they want to believe, even if it comes from a comedy show. They see and hear only what they want to believe. They have no tolerance for the truth or anyhting that resembles it. Being "Left" intrinsically means that you are not "Right" |
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I am amongst the Millions moving my $$ too. I trust these Libocrats about as much as I would leave my house deed in the bra of Wilkerson. I do realize that the person that I am responding to is a Turnip stuck in the Cow Manure of the Obamanation Turnip patch. They probably don't deserve a response. But, I try to be as fair as possible. |
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