A new outlook for Westford's East Boston Camps

A Westford resident wrote:

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But, back to why you must be an idiot. Are you saying that the town, or the camps should have had the electrical transformer on an electric pole 'tested'? Are you on crack? Should the state do a survey of all transformers out there and proactively replace the 'scary' ones? Why don't we just cleanup all the asbestos in the state while we're at it?

You failed your own idiot test again.

The fact is, they were notified of the issues with the transformers well in advance of the blowup, and there were only two that needed replacing. There IS a paper trail for all of this, you know.

It's going overboard to suggest that all asbestos in the state should be cleaned up, but the asbestos that is already IN the camp buildings and has been identified as such SHOULD be remediated. I'm not saying to go looking for issues, simply clean up the ones you KNOW about.

And don't lie about it.

shill wrote:

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but the asbestos that is already IN the camp buildings and has been identified as such SHOULD be remediated.

So which is it nut bag? Do you want to save your tax dollars or do you want to spend money on these camps?

You've squealed about the money spent on the camps to maintain and improve the buildings. You said the electricity shouldn't have been restored.

Now you want the guys in white suits to pull up the floor tiles that contain asbestos? Who are they harming left alone?

Oh, and I'm sure you 'remediated' your lead paint problem by calling in a state licensed removal company. Do you now have a certificate of inspection? Bet that was expensive, huh? Too bad it didn't prevent your brain damage.

Listen all,

The issue is that the property now belongs to the TAXPAYERS of Westford.

When it was bought the camps were of no use to anyone because of years of neglect by the former users/owners.

As a resident i voted to purchase the property to keep it from being developed to line the pockets of developers.

My property taxes went up significantly as a result,and thus i'm not willing for any more tax increases so some people can 'recapture the rapture' from years gone by on my dime.

This ill feeling came about from the EBSC thinking that they still had the right to camp up there,close off the camps to the public,assault the locals,there is a police report on this. Another incident required the police a order to EBSC personnel to leave the camps,and not return.

So,If you former campers still think many Westford residents are snobby,mean,cruel,etc then so be it.

In conclusion,you are welcome to enjoy the camps like everyone else,just remember its not exclusively for your enjoyment.

P.S. Your $$$ donations to preserve this beautiful unique place would be thankfully accepted.

I live in Westford, voted to buy the property, and although I was not at the party on Sunday, I think it was a wonderful thing to do - both for the citizens of Westford and for all the former campers and counselors who attended the overnight camps over the last 70 years. Kudos to the Conservation Commission and the Friends of East Boston Camps for all the work put into organizing the event.

Watcher wrote:

Listen all,
The issue is that the property now belongs to the TAXPAYERS of Westford.
When it was bought the camps were of no use to anyone because of years of neglect by the former users/owners.
As a resident i voted to purchase the property to keep it from being developed to line the pockets of developers.
My property taxes went up significantly as a result,and thus i'm not willing for any more tax increases so some people can 'recapture the rapture' from years gone by on my dime.
This ill feeling came about from the EBSC thinking that they still had the right to camp up there,close off the camps to the public,assault the locals,there is a police report on this. Another incident required the police a order to EBSC personnel to leave the camps,and not return.
So,If you former campers still think many Westford residents are snobby,mean,cruel,etc then so be it.
In conclusion,you are welcome to enjoy the camps like everyone else,just remember its not exclusively for your enjoyment.
P.S. Your $$$ donations to preserve this beautiful unique place would be thankfully accepted.

I am kind of thrown here......I currently am a Revere resident.....so Revere beach when it needs to be cleaned and xtra police force needs to be added due to overcrowded, people coming from DIFFERENT towns and cities to utlize the beach my tax dollars go towards that...I realize it is a PUBLIC beach but why are my tax dollars paying for what others enjoy hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm why can they not just stay in there own towns? Donations would be greatly appreciated for Revere Beach also....and do not blame all the campers and staff for a few isolated incidents........

Andrea Marie wrote:

<quoted text>I am kind of thrown here......I currently am a Revere resident.....so Revere beach when it needs to be cleaned and xtra police force needs to be added due to overcrowded, people coming from DIFFERENT towns and cities to utlize the beach my tax dollars go towards that...I realize it is a PUBLIC beach but why are my tax dollars paying for what others enjoy hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm why can they not just stay in there own towns? Donations would be greatly appreciated for Revere Beach also....and do not blame all the campers and staff for a few isolated incidents........

Unless YOUR tax dollars bought Revere Beach you are talking nonsense.

Andrea Marie wrote:

<quoted text>I am kind of thrown here......I currently am a Revere resident.....so Revere beach when it needs to be cleaned and xtra police force needs to be added due to overcrowded, people coming from DIFFERENT towns and cities to utlize the beach my tax dollars go towards that...I realize it is a PUBLIC beach but why are my tax dollars paying for what others enjoy hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm why can they not just stay in there own towns? Donations would be greatly appreciated for Revere Beach also....and do not blame all the campers and staff for a few isolated incidents........

This is not an accurate analogy. Revere Beach is an MDC property, owned and managed by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, not the City of Revere.

Freedom wrote:

Why don't they camp at Boston Harbor or out at Deer Island???????

Really??? Kids from East Boston should camp at a sewer treatment plant? I hope you don't mean that.

But East Boston kids should join the other kids of Boston that go to Camp Harbor View...

Well well well ,wow what a town filled with such hatred.

Ill bet your children are proud of you .

As far as Eastie kids go they will always be better people that the hate mongers on here.

Just wait,and you will see 40 b Housing (One of your Zoning Board members works for Boston Housing Authority.

If I were all of you Id be scared stiff of the bulldozers comming to build a Walmart,and why not a couple of Night Clubs.
You know like the ones you guys drive all the way to Boston for,then drive home drunk,get D.U.I.ED,OR worse off get in an accident.

That should make you guys feel very good,you paid say 600,000.00 or more for your castle (lol),and your town allows "Affordable Housing"40 b,and
Badda Bing there goes your property values,and Tax base.

Then comes Walmart with a baby carrige.

How you feeling now:
Living in the Peoples Republic of Hate,and Fear ,aka Westford ,and a like.

Go Eastie,and Pleeeeease Govenor raise those Toll booth fares A.S.A.P..

Joe Sciarappa -Eastie wrote:

Well well well ,wow what a town filled with such hatred.
Ill bet your children are proud of you .
As far as Eastie kids go they will always be better people that the hate mongers on here.
Just wait,and you will see 40 b Housing (One of your Zoning Board members works for Boston Housing Authority.
If I were all of you Id be scared stiff of the bulldozers comming to build a Walmart,and why not a couple of Night Clubs.
You know like the ones you guys drive all the way to Boston for,then drive home drunk,get D.U.I.ED,OR worse off get in an accident.
That should make you guys feel very good,you paid say 600,000.00 or more for your castle (lol),and your town allows "Affordable Housing"40 b,and
Badda Bing there goes your property values,and Tax base.
Then comes Walmart with a baby carrige.
How you feeling now:
Living in the Peoples Republic of Hate,and Fear ,aka Westford ,and a like.
Go Eastie,and Pleeeeease Govenor raise those Toll booth fares A.S.A.P..

You are certainly a sorry indivdual.

A Westford resident wrote:

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So which is it nut bag? Do you want to save your tax dollars or do you want to spend money on these camps?
You've squealed about the money spent on the camps to maintain and improve the buildings. You said the electricity shouldn't have been restored.
Now you want the guys in white suits to pull up the floor tiles that contain asbestos? Who are they harming left alone?
Oh, and I'm sure you 'remediated' your lead paint problem by calling in a state licensed removal company. Do you now have a certificate of inspection? Bet that was expensive, huh? Too bad it didn't prevent your brain damage.

The floor tiles aren't "left alone" - they are broken, chipped and peeling in places. Keep playing like you know what you're talking about, really. It's very cute.

I want the MASTER PLAN followed. To the letter. NO remediation work done unless it isn't coming from taxpayers. NO caretaker salary. NO campers in there unless it is safe and remediation is done.

You "Friends of EBC" want campers in there so bad, then follow the damn Master Plan you created and voted for and raise the money to pay for it yourself.

Watcher wrote:

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Unless YOUR tax dollars bought Revere Beach you are talking nonsense.

No but my tax dollars pay for the xtra police(Revere) that need to be there because of hoodlums from out of town......during the summer....and it seems as though there is a lot of nonsense spoken on this thread......

Revere Resident wrote:

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No but my tax dollars pay for the xtra police(Revere) that need to be there because of hoodlums from out of town......during the summer....and it seems as though there is a lot of nonsense spoken on this thread......

Exactly why we don't want this place to turn into some kind of playground for others at the expense of us locals.
Please stay in Revere

Froggy wrote:

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Exactly why we don't want this place to turn into some kind of playground for others at the expense of us locals.
Please stay in Revere

I do stay in Revere, so I do not have to deal with a bunch of uneducated,insecure,unethical people as some in this bunch!Thank you for reading my post though and sharing your feelings it was very nice of you . Have a great day.

Does anyone writing in this thread work in Boston?

I must say I would absolutly be willing to donate money towards EBC to be used for EBC. I am sure if you asked other past campers and employees they too would be willing to donate, I can stake my life on it. The concern of past campers and employees is to do what is best for all children (whether Westford children or inner city children)and give them a place to enjoy summers.
I believe I have stated before I am an empoyee of Childrens Hospital Boston and there is way more troubeling things in life then the Bull shit some past and present westford residents are moning about in this
thread.......Hope you all have a wonderfull summer and enjoy the grounds of EAST BOSTON CAMPS to the fullist, I will....:)

Ohhhhhh My gosh I just read posts from different articles that has to do with Westford also, something about a sewer plant in chelmsford.God Westford residints are snapping in that article too, calling chelmsford people white trash ect....I have never ever in my life seen such animosiety from one puny little town....all psychiatrist report to Westford...you will make tons.......