Collective-bargaining bill predicted to win easy passage in House

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Firefighters march east across High Street to the Statehouse to protest Senate Bill 5. Its provisions include eliminating binding arbitration in negotiating firefighters' union contracts.

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The question is, in this whole debate, whether all of OHIO will soon look like Youngstown. If the 400,000 public employees, yes unbelievably 400,000, keep being able to steal from OHIO's taxpayers, then the state will go bankrupt and nobody will have a job. Is that what the labor union bosses want???
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I predict an easy win next election for anyone that seeks office that is not a Republican.
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GUY who VOTED for Ksick

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Will someone tell me how all these union employees, especially the teachers, can get off work to march and parade around Columbus?
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Not that it matters , I guess but do firemen have to pass a physical every year?

My girlfriend always thought firemen were hot in shape in guys , now she says alot of them have bellys as big as mine. Just wondering.
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Bodie wrote:
I predict an easy win next election for anyone that seeks office that is not a Republican.
Oh why don't you get Jessie Jackson junior to run for office here.

He sounds like your kind of guy!
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GUY who VOTED for KAS wrote:
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Yea vote for people like Coleman, you don't give us a tax increase then we cut your services!'

Oh you city workers here is your raise, and now you have to pay 1 to 3 % of your pension.

Collective bargining at it's finest.
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I think we should let the Republican have their way and force convicts to teach elementary school.

We'd just have to contract with the private jail operators.

It's hilarious that the people talking the loudest smack about SB5 here are not from Ohio.
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Just Another Cynic wrote:
Will someone tell me how all these union employees, especially the teachers, can get off work to march and parade around Columbus?
They do seem to be down there alot! Well that's there personal day, or comp day, or a sick day if they get a fake or real doctor to sign a fake excuse.
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Democrats won't need campaign contributions in the next election just put your name on the ballot.

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Ohio is 46 in the nation for unfavorable business taxes and that is what collective bargaining does for you. You CANNOT keep businesses in your state and when that happens you CANNOT HIRE! Get a clue people. These Unions are NOT for the benefit of anyone except themselves. Because of them we have bloated teacher's salaries, you can't fire any of them, they pay very little into their retirement (of course we private sector people pay 100% of ours then we turn around and have to make up their deficits).......on and on and on. We need to have the Unions either "take care of their own with their OWN monies" or disban and live like the rest of us. The Unions are nothing more than the strong-arm of the Progressive/Socialist Democratic Party.
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Attention all property owners , March 31st deadline for property tax reduction!

Go to your auditors website , then board of revision page, print off the two page request for reduction.

No appraisal necessary ! Get it notarized and sent in!

Almost all are approved , ask for at least 10 to 15 % off value!

They way to control them is the way they control their drones , by cutting off the funds we send them!
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Joe Hill wrote:
I think we should let the Republican have their way and force convicts to teach elementary school.
We'd just have to contract with the private jail operators.
It's hilarious that the people talking the loudest smack about SB5 here are not from Ohio.
We already have a convict going around to schools who is best pals with your buddy Obama!

Van Jones , telling kids and I quote" don't listen to your grandparents, you are gods"

So give us some mmore of your spin!
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According to the Buckeye Institute, over 1800 state employees make over $100k. I would like to know if those 100k folks will be taking a pay cut as a result of SB5.
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Glad to see those in the public sector will fall more in line with those in the private sector who pay the bill for public sector jobs. The public employee will be held to a more uniform standard with merit increases based on performance just like the rest of us. Welcome to reality in the new America where free rides are no longer acceptable. We have to get our State budget under control or it will get worse for everyone in the state. Bill 5 is good for the citizens because the dead wood can be cut out while the good employees are rewarded with pay and benefits at or above that of their private sector counterparts. The tax payer will now get better service for its money. With that being said, I understand police officers and fire fighters need to have some leverage due to the dangerous nature of their jobs.
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American Joe wrote:
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They do seem to be down there alot! Well that's there personal day, or comp day, or a sick day if they get a fake or real doctor to sign a fake excuse.
Gee, wouldn't it be nice to have sick days and comp days?

I can't wait to get one of those under-benefited State jobs that will be available when they all quit to get rich in the private sector.
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Just Another Cynic wrote:
Will someone tell me how all these union employees, especially the teachers, can get off work to march and parade around Columbus?
Well there are some teachers. also families... firefighters, police (who obviously work strange/rotating shifts) and others...

Same way tea party people got off work. Either went on days/time off or took time off. Remember all state workers took 10 unpaid days per year the past two years.
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As for SB5. I don't think there was any doubt that it would pass the House. Some hope they'd make it a reasonable bill (some change is certainly needed - just not this crap).

It's on to the referendum. Will be interesting to see the political decision of when they pass the bill and get it signed - if they wait a few weeks they can push the referendum back to November 2012

Now it doesn't go into law until after the referendum (assuming the ref. failes) BUT it has a better chance of losing (meaning the bill becomes law) in a presidential/state wide year with large turnout.

Nov. 2011 could be problematic as there won't be much on the ballot and obviously labor and their supporters will be well orgainzed to turn out.

My guess is they'll push this back to let it wait until 2012 - though again - that means it won't help with this budget at all given it won't become law until(unless) then.
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Sound like a lot of jealous people.
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According to the Buckeye Institute, over 1800 state employees make over $100k. I would like to know if those 100k folks will be taking a pay cut as a result of SB5.
Obviously not. I would say ZERO of those are in the unions.

Some, like Kasich himself and ALL his political appointees... and just last week the Dublin Super. Got RAISES.

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