NM legislator proposes parental notification for girls under 17 considering abortion (1:31 p.m.)

Full story: Las Cruces Sun-News

A freshman legislator has introduced a bill that would require abortion providers to notify the parents of girls 17 or younger.

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Please don't do this. Don't put young girls in the position where they can't get an abortion without there parents knowing. Scared teenage girls will hit themselves in the stomach, drink a ton of alcohol and try to cause miscarriages if they have to tell their parents. Back allies still happen to. Please don't do this. I have seen this happen when I was in highschool. I had a friend who got pregnant, was catholic, and could not get an anonymous abortion. She constantly punched herself in the stomach, took pills, tried to take too much benedryl etc. I am pro life, but I understand that not having the option is a dangerous business for the lives of young girls.
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A 17 year old or younger is still a child, they may breed and have children, but then that does not make them smart enough or caple of being parents. ABORTION = Killing a Fetus/Child/Baby ! You need a license to drive a car, or to even go fishing. Maybe it ias time to also recquire a license before you become a parent or breed ? Under 18; Any Responsible parent or guardian should be informed. We do not need Big Brother or Big Sis to allow Abortion on Minors /Children ! Wait, Under Obama Care Abortion will happend at tax payers expense ! Obama care; Really does not Care about Abortion; One only needs to do; Is to listen to minority speaker Nancy Pelosi or Senator Boxer ! Keep the Government out of ABORTION FOR MINORS !!
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Screw the economy and jobs, we've got culture wars to attend to!
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Please don't do this. Don't put young girls in the position where they can't get an abortion without there parents knowing. Scared teenage girls will hit themselves in the stomach, drink a ton of alcohol and try to cause miscarriages if they have to tell their parents. Back allies still happen to. Please don't do this. I have seen this happen when I was in highschool. I had a friend who got pregnant, was catholic, and could not get an anonymous abortion. She constantly punched herself in the stomach, took pills, tried to take too much benedryl etc. I am pro life, but I understand that not having the option is a dangerous business for the lives of young girls.
Then you want to be a Baby Killer ! A Child, girl, mother that get's a Abortion, Does not know what she is doing; It is called MURDER !!
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Al Reine wrote:
<quoted text> Then you want to be a Baby Killer ! A Child, girl, mother that get's a Abortion, Does not know what she is doing; It is called MURDER !!
Of course they don't! They need to be told by a MAN, or a government official, or a male church leader, or Al Reine. Of course a woman wouldn't know what they were doing! Only your govt or church or favorite blogger can determine that for women! Silly women.
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Of course they don't! They need to be told by a MAN, or a government official, or a male church leader, or Al Reine. Of course a woman wouldn't know what they were doing! Only your govt or church or favorite blogger can determine that for women! Silly women.
Silly Perso; They are children, little girls, not adults. A woman can and should have the right to make her own choice, even though I do not agree with abortion. A Father, and or mother should be: INFORMED This is Notification, this legislator does not say in the bill NO ABORTION, only that A Parent needs to be INFORMED FIRST ! ReallyNow; No different then Notification of Sex Education Classes or Darwins Theory on Evolution ! Remember they are not adults ! Minors, Children, girls ! But then you know best RIGHT ?? All Paid For by Legal Tax Payers money, and Obama Care !
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Question? Would this law mean that if the parents of a female under 17 must be informed of her intention to have an abortion, that the parents can also refuse to allow the proceedure?

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Al Reine wrote:
<quoted text> Silly Perso; They are children, little girls, not adults. A woman can and should have the right to make her own choice, even though I do not agree with abortion. A Father, and or mother should be: INFORMED This is Notification, this legislator does not say in the bill NO ABORTION, only that A Parent needs to be INFORMED FIRST ! ReallyNow; No different then Notification of Sex Education Classes or Darwins Theory on Evolution ! Remember they are not adults ! Minors, Children, girls ! But then you know best RIGHT ?? All Paid For by Legal Tax Payers money, and Obama Care !
And if those parents would force the teen in question to carry to term against her will? Or if she faces being thrown out, or abused physically, emotionally, or mentally? Or even killed? What if one of those parents is the reason she's pregnant, or has been enabling someone who has been abusing and raping her?

My mother's father would have killed her, and I mean that completely literally, and she sought or obtained an abortion.
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Good old Republicans...always working to fix our economy...NOT.
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The time for girls to make decisions is before they get pregnant, not after. Most people wouldn't even consider allowing a doctor to perform an appendectomy or even oral surgery without a parent or guardian's consent, yet you want to allow a minor girl to undergo a life and death procedure with out their family. What a rediculous justification for allowing emotional, hormonal, scared, and vulnerable girls to make this decision. I have had an abortion and can tell you that it is a whole h e l l of a lot worse than you are every going to be told. What the state of New Mexico needs is informed consent laws regarding abortions. I assure you that there would be far fewer abortions if women were given the whole story of what they may and will face following their abortion. The physical, emotional, and spiritual consequences of an abortion are much greater than most, if not all, medical professionals will ever tell you. I hate to rain on anyone's parade, but the fact of the matter is that legalized abortion is a multi-million dollar industry! Abortion is a means of controlling population growth, institutionalizing racism, and lining the pockets of abortion providers and facilities. People that think that the abortion industry is regulated obviously have no idea of what they are talking about. There are those parents who will force their daughters into having abortions whether they want it or not all in the name of convenience or saving face. What ever happened to personal responsibility. Abortions allow some young girls to continue in a dangerous, self destructive, and potentially deadly lifestyle.
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Look at the history of New Mexico. Many of the pregnant females here are in that condition because of direct relatives - fathers, brothers, uncles, cousins, and not to exclude others by marriage or live-ins.

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Thank you Alonzo Baldonado. This is commom sense legislation, Who is going to pay, if this girl is taken, by a school official, and she has complications from an abortion and dies or is physically or emotionally harmed by the abortion, and the abortionist?
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If a pregnant underage girl felt she could tell her parents that she is expecting and wanted an abortion...the point of notification would be mute.

Something to consider and a true story, a high school junior found herself pregnant before abortion was legal. Rather than tell her parents, she walked in front of a train. Her parents found out about the pregnancy after the autopsy.

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Zane wrote:
If a pregnant underage girl felt she could tell her parents that she is expecting and wanted an abortion...the point of notification would be mute.
Something to consider and a true story, a high school junior found herself pregnant before abortion was legal. Rather than tell her parents, she walked in front of a train. Her parents found out about the pregnancy after the autopsy.
So, would these parents have helped her through her pregnancy, and do they now have regret that their daughter couldn't and didn't talk to them, before she stepped in front of that train. How about the true story where a young girl was taken to get an abortion with out telling anyone, and then felt so distraught that she took her own life?
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Please don't do this. Don't put young girls in the position where they can't get an abortion without there parents knowing. Scared teenage girls will hit themselves in the stomach, drink a ton of alcohol and try to cause miscarriages if they have to tell their parents. Back allies still happen to. Please don't do this. I have seen this happen when I was in highschool. I had a friend who got pregnant, was catholic, and could not get an anonymous abortion. She constantly punched herself in the stomach, took pills, tried to take too much benedryl etc. I am pro life, but I understand that not having the option is a dangerous business for the lives of young girls.
I have daughters. I think if any of them thought I would be notified of this they'd THINK TWICE about having unprotected sex. I've been through this and I wasn't notified in advance and to this day that that now adult child lives with this pain of a bad decision. After 7 years she finally talked about what she did. She now realizes she didn't give me the opportunity to talk her out of it.

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I have daughters. I think if any of them thought I would be notified of this they'd THINK TWICE about having unprotected sex. I've been through this and I wasn't notified in advance and to this day that that now adult child lives with this pain of a bad decision. After 7 years she finally talked about what she did. She now realizes she didn't give me the opportunity to talk her out of it.
How many parents have been robbed of the opertunity to be their for their child, and lost a grandchild because of it? How unfortunate, that some in this culture would rather protect abortion, then children. One thing they always seem to ignore is that every abortion kills a growing and developing child.

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I have daughters. I think if any of them thought I would be notified of this they'd THINK TWICE about having unprotected sex. I've been through this and I wasn't notified in advance and to this day that that now adult child lives with this pain of a bad decision. After 7 years she finally talked about what she did. She now realizes she didn't give me the opportunity to talk her out of it.
Says something about your relationship with your daughter doesn't it?

If she's experiencing any 'pain' over her decision,she's in a small minority and should get some counseling. She made the best decision she could at the time. She does need to make sure it is non-religious, non-judgmental, and reality based.

This fight isn't about abortion - It is about control over women. Instead of keeping abortion legal accessible and safe, the anti-abortion industry wants it restricted, dangerous and illegal. The New Mexico fund raising letters are probably already in the mail.
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<quoted text>And if those parents would force the teen in question to carry to term against her will? Or if she faces being thrown out, or abused physically, emotionally, or mentally? Or even killed? What if one of those parents is the reason she's pregnant, or has been enabling someone who has been abusing and raping her?
My mother's father would have killed her, and I mean that completely literally, and she sought or obtained an abortion.
A Child is still a child; If the child has been having sex with a family member then go to the police ! Their are manf people who will adopt, A Child who Aports/has abortion ; will carry this Murder for life; Better then just 9 months ! Murder is Murder, killing a fetus is murder ! You can come up with many excuse, but it still is murder ! A Child who aborts or any woman who aborts will nevewr forget that she allowed her baby to be KILLED !! One is to young as a child to make such a decision such as MURDER and killing a baby child in her own living body !! But then many liberals feel that this is just Bllod,bones, and something like a piece of shi-! and you just forget about it, like flushing the toliet ! A Dispoal; Get Real ! Why is it that if a woman who is pregant and is then killed by a DUI or even drugs can and they catch the person who killed the pregant mother is then CHARDER WITH A DOUBLE MURDER ?? You know the answer; Because it is considered a living baby/child In any case a person can always just go south of the border, or to California and have the baby killed/Murdered/ or the P/C Word ABORTION !!

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Hey Al - Until you begin advocating a full funeral for a miscarriage, you should just have to accept the medical fact that an aborted fetus regardless of cause is nothing more than medical waste....and it must just be god's will.
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Hey Al - Until you begin advocating a full funeral for a miscarriage, you should just have to accept the medical fact that an aborted fetus regardless of cause is nothing more than medical waste....and it must just be god's will.
Have Respect for any life ! I know of people/parents/mothers who have had MEMORIAL Services for a Miscarriage ! Their is a difference between a Miscarriage and Abortion ! I will agree with you to a certain point; A Miscarriage is the female human body and god way of protecting the unborn child and the mother. Somethings we will never know why, it will only be theory, or what the human body will or haS DONE TO PROTECT THE FEMALE MOTHER. wE DO kNOW THAT ONE IS dOME bY mAN/OR mEDICAL mEANS, AND THIS IS THE abortion/killing ! A MICARRIAGE IS BIOLGY, AND THE HUMAN BODY DOING the Miscarriage, we also know that certain drugs, or a fall can contibute to the cause. ABORTION IS MURDER/ SIMPLE & PLAIN; It is killing the Fetus,child in the womans body ! Why is it that some people have Memorial Services for even ABORTION ? Even those who recquested the Abortion in the first place ??

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