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Police investigate Winnetka shooting

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Three people were being treated on Thursday for non-life-threatening wounds they suffered in a shooting in Winnetka.

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Bob85364

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Nov 12, 2009
 
Wow... Lived in that area in 1988, very quiet then. Guess it's changed.
Nancy

Thousand Oaks, CA

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#2
Nov 12, 2009
 
and one to two three males in the vehicle fired on them GOOD english ! Low life shooting more anymore who cares.....it happens everyday so just get use too it.

“Be the change you want to see!”

Since: Dec 08

Rio Rancho, NM

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#3
Nov 12, 2009
 
This sounds so ridiculous, it could be from a Mel Brooks movie:

A "stare down" at the taco truck.

A "stare down" resulting in a shooting.

Saticoy & Oso: Skid Row of the valley.

If this is not the epitome of the stupidity of the wet back community.

So macho.

So 'bad'.

A "stare down".

And valley residents find this acceptable?

Holy chit!!
Bob91335

Birmingham, AL

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#4
Nov 12, 2009
 
Ignorant young men who spend too much time on macho posturing and demanding "respect" at the end of a gun. It would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

When did we move into a reality where we kill each other for being impolite? Where are the parents when the kids are learning that it's more important to be perceived as a man than to actually be a man?

Academic achievement is down, obesity is up, discipline is almost non-existent, school is unimportant and who you are is what you own.

I hold out very little hope for the success of this generation.

Since: Jan 08

Tujunga, CA

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#5
Nov 12, 2009
 
Hooray! Score another win for Hispanic men.
jack

Long Beach, CA

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#6
Nov 12, 2009
 
of course .. its how they deal with life .. like babys who cant get theyre way .. feel sorry for the parents who raised these losers.
True Story

Fontana, CA

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Nov 12, 2009
 
You have to understand the mentality of these primitive cretins:
Ramos, an important Mexican philosopher of the first half of the twentieth century, who was the Minister of Education in the 1930s, and the head of the Department of Philosophy of the Universidad Nacional Autonoma de México during the 1940s, wrote one of the first studies on Mexican identity in 1933.
Educated in Paris and Rome, he argued that el pelado (although Ramos does not use the term machismo, el pelado is used to describe the most nasty Mexican masculinity, el macho)“was the most the most elemental and clearly defined expression of national character.”
This deviant masculinity, he argues, was the result of an inferiority complex resulting from the Spanish Conquest, and thus was part of both the process of racialization and sexualization that followed.
This psychological trauma of the Conquest produced overcompensating behaviors including aggression and the ongoing drive to prove oneself superior.
Ramos makes no apology for speaking of the pelado as an animal, primitive man and ongoingly fits this type of masculinity within the discourses of biology and zoology: El pelado belongs to a social fauna:“He is an animal whose ferocious pantomimes are designed to terrify others, making them believe that he is stronger than they and more determined”.
This type of man, Ramos continues, is obsessed with the phallus. His language and behavior are full of assertions of virility and sexual potency; he degrades by feminizing.
He is “manly in the zoological sense of the term, that is, in the sense of the male enjoying complete animal potency”.
Lastly, Ramos suggests that the psychological traits he describes ought to be ascribed to the poor urban mestizo and Indian: thus machismo becomes a sexual, racial, and class ascription.
In using Alfred Adler’s psychology to explain the character of the Mexican male, Ramos was hardly out of step with others in his time.
Adler, a student of Freud, theorized that the aggression evidenced in people lacking something, e.g. masculinity, was the acted out result of an “inferiority complex”.
In developing this notion, Adler was influenced by Nietzsche’s idea of the “will to power,” which assumes that the goal of men is power.“Inferiority complex,” a much used term, is Adlerian, and has been used to explain racialized masculinities, most significantly in the work of Frantz Fanon.
no money no hunny

Pacoima, CA

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#8
Nov 12, 2009
 
too bad blinky rodriguez and his crooked gang intervention organization "communities in schools" cant do anything to stop this senseless violence, it looks like there crooked way's have finally caught up to them because they are broke and useless, good, because the only way to put a stamp on these cowards is with good ol'fashioned police work not with ex felon's who go around flirting with under aged girls and popping pills.
Taco hell

Lake Elsinore, CA

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Nov 12, 2009
 
More of those wonderful hispanic famalia values that Jorge Booooooosh rants about, and Obama embraces. Build the prisons now, before the Amnesty.

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Since: Dec 08

Rio Rancho, NM

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Nov 12, 2009
 
True Story wrote:
You have to understand the mentality of these primitive cretins:
Ramos, an important Mexican philosopher of the first half of the twentieth century, who was the Minister of Education in the 1930s, and the head of the Department of Philosophy of the Universidad Nacional Autonoma de México during the 1940s, wrote one of the first studies on Mexican identity in 1933.
Educated in Paris and Rome, he argued that el pelado (although Ramos does not use the term machismo, el pelado is used to describe the most nasty Mexican masculinity, el macho)“was the most the most elemental and clearly defined expression of national character.”
This deviant masculinity, he argues, was the result of an inferiority complex resulting from the Spanish Conquest, and thus was part of both the process of racialization and sexualization that followed.
This psychological trauma of the Conquest produced overcompensating behaviors including aggression and the ongoing drive to prove oneself superior.
Ramos makes no apology for speaking of the pelado as an animal, primitive man and ongoingly fits this type of masculinity within the discourses of biology and zoology: El pelado belongs to a social fauna:“He is an animal whose ferocious pantomimes are designed to terrify others, making them believe that he is stronger than they and more determined”.
This type of man, Ramos continues, is obsessed with the phallus. His language and behavior are full of assertions of virility and sexual potency; he degrades by feminizing.
He is “manly in the zoological sense of the term, that is, in the sense of the male enjoying complete animal potency”.
Lastly, Ramos suggests that the psychological traits he describes ought to be ascribed to the poor urban mestizo and Indian: thus machismo becomes a sexual, racial, and class ascription.
In using Alfred Adler’s psychology to explain the character of the Mexican male, Ramos was hardly out of step with others in his time.
Adler, a student of Freud, theorized that the aggression evidenced in people lacking something, e.g. masculinity, was the acted out result of an “inferiority complex”.
In developing this notion, Adler was influenced by Nietzsche’s idea of the “will to power,” which assumes that the goal of men is power.“Inferiority complex,” a much used term, is Adlerian, and has been used to explain racialized masculinities, most significantly in the work of Frantz Fanon.
Thanks for the information!
It goes toward explaining a lot!

Besides being a manifestation of an 'inferiority complex',
it is also very infantile and immature.

In conjunction with these attributes of some Latino males,
some also suffer from a 'Napolean Complex'.

Something that they need to learn and are not taught in their homes:

"In order to merit respect, one must give respect."

Firstly, they should respect themselves by not exhibiting this childish behaviour.
Louweegie272

Salinas, CA

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#11
Nov 12, 2009
 
The articles in our papers are very poorly written with many basic questions not asked or answered, who are these people? What gangs were involved?
Journalism 101.
Vato Estupido

Los Angeles, CA

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#13
Nov 12, 2009
 
El Pelado was staring at me and I got escary. So me and my mestizos busted a cap in his culo. Any of you homies know where I can get a good taco?
concerned local

Malibu, CA

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#14
Nov 12, 2009
 
I think it's time to profile - check everyone with gang tats for legal docs and deport if incorrect status. What morrons and why do we have to put up with this kind of behavior? Shot for what, staring? These are worthless human being and do not belong in the USA!
concerned local

Malibu, CA

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#15
Nov 12, 2009
 
Ya da ya da and these guys are all fu@ked up and there's no pill for the cure!
True Story wrote:
You have to understand the mentality of these primitive cretins:
Ramos, an important Mexican philosopher of the first half of the twentieth century, who was the Minister of Education in the 1930s, and the head of the Department of Philosophy of the Universidad Nacional Autonoma de México during the 1940s, wrote one of the first studies on Mexican identity in 1933.
Educated in Paris and Rome, he argued that el pelado (although Ramos does not use the term machismo, el pelado is used to describe the most nasty Mexican masculinity, el macho)“was the most the most elemental and clearly defined expression of national character.”
This deviant masculinity, he argues, was the result of an inferiority complex resulting from the Spanish Conquest, and thus was part of both the process of racialization and sexualization that followed.
This psychological trauma of the Conquest produced overcompensating behaviors including aggression and the ongoing drive to prove oneself superior.
Ramos makes no apology for speaking of the pelado as an animal, primitive man and ongoingly fits this type of masculinity within the discourses of biology and zoology: El pelado belongs to a social fauna:“He is an animal whose ferocious pantomimes are designed to terrify others, making them believe that he is stronger than they and more determined”.
This type of man, Ramos continues, is obsessed with the phallus. His language and behavior are full of assertions of virility and sexual potency; he degrades by feminizing.
He is “manly in the zoological sense of the term, that is, in the sense of the male enjoying complete animal potency”.
Lastly, Ramos suggests that the psychological traits he describes ought to be ascribed to the poor urban mestizo and Indian: thus machismo becomes a sexual, racial, and class ascription.
In using Alfred Adler’s psychology to explain the character of the Mexican male, Ramos was hardly out of step with others in his time.
Adler, a student of Freud, theorized that the aggression evidenced in people lacking something, e.g. masculinity, was the acted out result of an “inferiority complex”.
In developing this notion, Adler was influenced by Nietzsche’s idea of the “will to power,” which assumes that the goal of men is power.“Inferiority complex,” a much used term, is Adlerian, and has been used to explain racialized masculinities, most significantly in the work of Frantz Fanon.
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#16
Nov 12, 2009
 
Someone once said (I heard on the news) we love death more than life. These morons most likely done even realize it, they're in the same mindset.
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#17
Nov 12, 2009
 
The rich owners of the Federal Reserve Bank, Goldman Sachs, Lockheed, Haliburton, Boeing, GE etc. are no different than the local gangsters. However, the super rich harm us much more than the local punks via devaluation of our currency, stealing from our Social Security and pensions, running upsidedown budgets, poisoning our food, water and air. Murderers are murderers. Our world has become a cesspit from the highest level to the lowest.
Where is Bratton

Irvine, CA

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#18
Nov 12, 2009
 
Who's the new police chief?
MOT

Norwalk, CA

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#19
Nov 12, 2009
 
The LAPD should allow the Valley residents to harvest the hide of anyone associated with Canoga Park Alabama (CPA). This gang is comprise of boys trying to act like men. Since when do people shoot one another for mad dogging each other? Maybe if Father O'Connor didn't molest these third world dogs, they would respect life and people. On another note, these fools don't even know how to point and aim. They're ready for deployment to Iraq to be used as decoys.
Honest Abe

Los Angeles, CA

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Nov 12, 2009
 
Mexicans!
JUST SOME GIRL

Costa Mesa, CA

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#21
Nov 12, 2009
 
Wow, poorly written article, and comments that don't make sense! Just another day for the Daily News, right!
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