Lisa Gilliam Charged with Murder

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I did read in the Lexington news where alot of cash was stacked in piles with sticky notes on them as to who each was intended for? Can we assume handwriting analysis was used? News also indicated that sometime prior, he was happy about paying $3,775.00 CASH for a trip to The Bahamas.
Wasn't it mentioned sometime back on one of these threads there might be an audio tape? Is it possible information could be on that? I know it is possible to have a tape analyzed to be sure it isn't altered and that it in fact is the voice of X person.
A poster above posted that 4 ex wives and an old flame testified he was wonderful? If he was, why did they divorce? Is it not true that the news also stated one was after him for child support? Now, wouldn't that have had to be 1 of those 4 because did the 5th one bear any children by him and we'll also assume the 6th one didn't either? Now the one that apparently was after him for child support I don't believe is the same one that won Alimony payments from him? Correct me if I read that wrong? I just would find it hard to believe one had 5 ex-wives and they all were glorius about divorcing him? I'm just looking at an entire picture here.
there are no child support issues. the wives believe she's guilty, they didn't say he was wonderful.
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<quoted text> Believed and testifing are two different things.
TRUE , bUT WHO KNOWS WHAT THE NEXT TRIAL MAY BRING!!
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there are no child support issues. the wives believe she's guilty, they didn't say he was wonderful.
They did divorce him right? Were they defending him when he was sticking it up their rear ends? I'd imagine now, all cash wagons have gone? They can "believe" anything they choose. According to what one poster posted, 10-2 tells me they believed wrong. Do you actually think Gilliam was going to show his insecure, scared, broken self with the arrogance the town knew he possessed? He was a lawyer. They are trained not to show emotion. You do understand that, right?
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TRUE , bUT WHO KNOWS WHAT THE NEXT TRIAL MAY BRING!!
Yes, but it also could bring another hung jury that prosecution may throw in the towel on to prevent taxpayers from spending more unecessary monies for a whim. It is the Prosecution's call in a criminal proceeding.
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HUNG JURY!!
ALL 4 EX WIVES AND A HIGH SCHOOL GIRLFRIEND IN THE COURTROOM BELIEVE SHE KILLED HIM.
ONLY OPTION FOR JURY INSTRUCTION WAS GUILTY OF MURDER or NOT GUILTY..NO SUICIDE CHOICE!!
I was there and witnessed these ladies pull together, comfort one another and treat each other with incredible respect!! It was amazing!!
The jury members took their jobs very serious!!
That would have been a good one for Jerry Springer. Now wasn't that precious.
Al Bundy here

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They did divorce him right? Were they defending him when he was sticking it up their rear ends? I'd imagine now, all cash wagons have gone? They can "believe" anything they choose. According to what one poster posted, 10-2 tells me they believed wrong. Do you actually think Gilliam was going to show his insecure, scared, broken self with the arrogance the town knew he possessed? He was a lawyer. They are trained not to show emotion. You do understand that, right?
people have different reasons for doing things, divorce, marriage whatever. Wrong again all cash wagons aren't gone. They aren't talking about as a lawyer but as a husband spanned over decades.

You just don't know what you're talking about!!! Your opinion is not going to change anything!!
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That would have been a good one for Jerry Springer. Now wasn't that precious.
It was very classy. I watched them.

I realize that such a thing is beyond your mentality and the only thing you can contribute is a low class dirty minded opinion but some people can band together in support of doing what's right.
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<quoted text> Believed and testifing are two different things.
the juge decides what is allowed in
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Yes, but it also could bring another hung jury that prosecution may throw in the towel on to prevent taxpayers from spending more unecessary monies for a whim. It is the Prosecution's call in a criminal proceeding.
maybe it will put her in prison which is not a whim
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that's funny i thought everyone is presumed innocent, until proven guilty.far as i know the trial hasn't started or ended yet.I mean i hate to rain on everyones parade but, this is the United States we do have laws here.
Darlin, look at the facts. It's not difficult to realize she's a cold-blooded murderer. It's only a shame that they did not pursue the death penalty...
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Here's the deal. If she had as much "pull" as some of you insinuate, would she have ever been charged to begin with? Get real.
I still stand on my original opinion....NOT Guilty.
You're a fool. You're the reason this justice system has failed so many people. The fact that you can look at all the evidence and say not guilty, are you kidding? Perhaps you have some type of mental illness or cognitive delay.
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Excuse me for interceding here, but do you have all the evidence in hand substantiating that he didn't? I doubt that seriously. And it is more than common for a family to try to justify a suicide placing blame sometimes in places other than the victims. I am not saying I blame the family for trying to find someone else to blame, but what I am saying is, this is not unusual at all. The accused's mother is still hugging her daughter and could that be because her daughter didn't opt out the way he did, or, that she knows her daughter is being accused grossly for something she may not have done? There are two sides to every story and somewhere in between...lies the truth.
Wow. The level of stupidity that you're operating at is astounding. Do you know anything? Oh yes, he killed himself. Is that why there was no gun to be found near or around him at the scene? It all makes sense, he shot himself and had time to neatly wipe the gun of its' prints and place it in a desk drawer. Whose desk drawer you may ask? HERS. That's exactly where they found the gun, wiped clean and neatly stowed away....

As it has already been said, "The devil is in the details". Get a clue, hillbilly. Your lack of logic is the reason guilty men and murderers go free.
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Yes, but it also could bring another hung jury that prosecution may throw in the towel on to prevent taxpayers from spending more unecessary monies for a whim. It is the Prosecution's call in a criminal proceeding.
Doubtful,they'll just tax it to Lisa,thank God,heard they are moving it to Jackson ,County,next month.
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Lisa suffers from borderline personality disorder and should be in a facility to protect the public from her. let the 5 jury members that voted not guilty spent a week with her. That would get a proper verdict!
This woman needs intense psychological evaluation.
At first, I thought it was "JUST" borderline personality disorder but after researching her past behavior and current actions; I believe there's more than one or two Diagnosis' there! YOU ARE CORRECT, SHE IS A DANGER TO HERSELF AND OTHERS!!

In all honesty, "GUILTY BUT MENTALLY ILL" should probably be a choice, which would put her away but give her the badly needed intense, inpatient help she needs( with a mandatory time frame set). Otherwise, she will kill again; the handwriting is on the wall! Seriously!!
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Wow. The level of stupidity that you're operating at is astounding. Do you know anything? Oh yes, he killed himself. Is that why there was no gun to be found near or around him at the scene? It all makes sense, he shot himself and had time to neatly wipe the gun of its' prints and place it in a desk drawer. Whose desk drawer you may ask? HERS. That's exactly where they found the gun, wiped clean and neatly stowed away....
As it has already been said, "The devil is in the details". Get a clue, hillbilly. Your lack of logic is the reason guilty men and murderers go free.
Don't waste your time arguing with her,she knows she is guilty,but get it;she doesn't care,she hated Larry,thus her putting him ,not Lisa on trial.once you understand the facts of why she Wants HIM TO HAVE PULLED THE TRIGGER,THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL YOU UNDERSTAND HER OPINION IS VERY BIASED AND SO CARRIES NO WEIGHT WHATSOEVER.
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Facts: Gun found in desk drawer with no finger print on trigger. Gun had paper on top of it. Drawer was closed.
Fact: Mr.Gilliam had paid bills that day, made inquires on filing for bankruptcy also told his cousin he was planning on opening law office in Somerset.
Fact: Mr. Gilliam bought a vacation for him and Lisa 3 day prior to death. When ask if he wanted insurance for trip he declined stating he wasn't going to miss this trip. Without insurance the trip was non-refundable
Fact: Lisa had found out that day that Mr.Gilliam was supposedly cheating on her.
Fact: They had been fighting that day. His office was a wreck due to their arguing.
Fact: Lisa continued to give inconsistent story's to police during all 3 interviews with detectives as to what happened that day. Last interview was around 2-3 weeks after shooting.
Guilty or Not Guilty?
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It was very classy. I watched them.
I realize that such a thing is beyond your mentality and the only thing you can contribute is a low class dirty minded opinion but some people can band together in support of doing what's right.
..even if it's 4 ex-wives. Is it possible they also might like to band together for a new t.v. show called "Desperate Housewives"? I'm sure they are nice ladies.....who all divorced him for some good reason?
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You're a fool. You're the reason this justice system has failed so many people. The fact that you can look at all the evidence and say not guilty, are you kidding? Perhaps you have some type of mental illness or cognitive delay.
Let me see now. If she's proven Not Guilty - the Justice system failed;
If she's proven Guilty - the Justice system works.

Hmmmmmm. Now fancy that one. We'll try our best to see if the Justice System can parallel your judgemental views each time from now into the future?
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Facts: Gun found in desk drawer with no finger print on trigger. Gun had paper on top of it. Drawer was closed.
Fact: Mr.Gilliam had paid bills that day, made inquires on filing for bankruptcy also told his cousin he was planning on opening law office in Somerset.
Fact: Mr. Gilliam bought a vacation for him and Lisa 3 day prior to death. When ask if he wanted insurance for trip he declined stating he wasn't going to miss this trip. Without insurance the trip was non-refundable
Fact: Lisa had found out that day that Mr.Gilliam was supposedly cheating on her.
Fact: They had been fighting that day. His office was a wreck due to their arguing.
Fact: Lisa continued to give inconsistent story's to police during all 3 interviews with detectives as to what happened that day. Last interview was around 2-3 weeks after shooting.
Guilty or Not Guilty?
I'll address your post since the balance of the others are the same old rhetorical "hang 'em now, ask questions later'.

Let's pretend I'm defending this case (althoug in reality, I do stand by my original convictions) to date.

1. Let me ask you first this question. Exactly what location and position was the victim's body found in? Once you give me that, we'll discuss your statement. Exact and precise answer is mandatory;

2. Bahamas I understand? What was the purpose in this "vacation", if in fact that was it's true intent? If he booked and "paid in cash" for it 3 days before he died, then what was his consulting a divorce attorney all about?Has the actual ticket itself been shown with precisely whose name is on that ticket? Is it not true, and maybe I'm wrong, that the Bahamas or Caribbean are great tax havesn for opeing offshore accounts, which includes anonymity and reduced or nonexistent tax?

3. When did the victim learn...exactly what specific time of day, that he had to dish out alot of money to the ex-wife, and, is it assumed that would be an ongoing thing since it was deemed Alimony? Could we have more details on what the Bankruptcy filing was suppose to erase? Here are two things. To the best of my illiterate knowledge, a bankruptcy doesn't wipe out Alimony, Child Support or an Uncle Sam debt. That said, can we assume that going to the extreme of bankruptcy means there were a tremendous amount of other creditors out there? It would wipe out, in my personal opinion, debt owed on a home that you wish to include in a bankruptcy, credit cards and other personal credit.

4. Cheating? Wasn't that a long term ritual? When a man cheats, women don't kiss their feet in case that's breaking news. They scream and they argue. That does not equate to murder. If I'd found that at, I'd have wrecked his office and used a Louisville slugger on his red corvette. Again, does not equal murder.

5. If I were in her predicament and circumstance, I might offer more than 3 stories, because going through something like that, if my head was still planted on my shoulders, it would have been a plus. Inconsistent....in what capacity. What were the inconsistencies?

Based on the lack of physical proof here, you haven't even given me enough to begin convicting her circumstantially, let alone otherwise. Not enough evidence in this case. Everything is surround by an "if"....the longest word in the dictionary.

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