Feds seize computers, records at 3 Hebrew Boys offices

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Mr_Dycerolla wrote:

Hebrew Brothers came through enormously for my sister! They paid her Mortgage off as promised. I hope they rise up out of this legal rumble victoriously. I would like to use thier services myself!!!!!!

You can use the services....Oh...I forgot, the 3 Hebrew Boys are under FEDERAL charges. LOL! Good for for your sister. Tell your sister...once the boys go to jail, the IRS will be knocking at her door.

drake

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Train wrote:

what's the deal with C.C.G...has anyone heard anything new....

Here is the latest and greatest. The 3HB clowns continue to stall. There time is running out.

U.S. Department of Justice
United States Attorney's Office
August 21, 2009
RE: United States v. Defendant(s) Timothy McQueen, Tony B. Pough, Joseph B. Brunson
Case Number 2007R00845 and Court Docket Number 08-CR-00615
The United States Department of Justice believes it is important to keep victims of federal crime informed of court proceedings. This notice provides information about the above-referenced criminal case.
A status hearing is scheduled before Judge Margaret Seymour for October 27, 2009, 10:00 AM at Crtrm 5, Matthew J Perry Court House, 901 Richland St, Columbia for defendant(s) Tony B. Pough, Joseph B. Brunson. The purpose of this hearing is to determine if there are issues that the Court needs to address and to schedule any necessary future court dates. Because of the Court's schedule, hearing dates could change on very short notice. If you plan on attending, you may want to call the VNS Call Center or check the web site to confirm the date and time. Please note, there is a 24-hour delay in information transfer to the web site.
A trial is scheduled before Judge Margaret Seymour on November 3, 2009, 10:00 AM at Crtrm 5, Matthew J Perry Court House, 901 Richland St, Columbia for the case which involves defendant(s) Tony B. Pough, Joseph B. Brunson.
Please be aware that many criminal cases are resolved by a plea agreement between the United States Attorney's Office and the defendant. You should also know that it is not unusual for a defendant to seek to negotiate a plea agreement shortly before a trial is scheduled to begin. Plea agreements can be made at any time and as late as the morning of trial, leaving little or no opportunity to provide notice to you of the date and time of the plea hearing. If the court schedules a plea hearing in this case, we will use our best efforts to notify you of available information as soon as practicable. If you want to inform the prosecutor of your views regarding potential plea agreements, or any other aspect of the case, please contact the prosecutor assigned to this case or me.
The hearing previously scheduled for defendant(s), Tony B. Pough, Joseph B. Brunson, Timothy McQueen, on August 25, 2009, 10:00 AM at Columbia has been cancelled. VNS will continue to provide you with updated case scheduling and event information.
Because of the Court's schedule, hearing dates could change on very short notice. If you plan on attending, you may want to call the VNS Call Center or check the web site to confirm the date and time. Please note, there is a 24-hour delay in information transfer to the web site.
The Victim Notification System (VNS) is designed to provide you with information regarding the case as it proceeds through the criminal justice system.
Sincerely,
W. Walter Wilkins
United States Attorney
Renee Mattox
Victim Witness Coordinator

Theft Loss Expert

Since: Sep 09

Tampa, FL

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drake wrote:

<quoted text> So how much does your company get if they recover it? What is the precentage or the payout? I am hearing from different info I have read that companies like yours are very expensive. Please expand on the topic.

Sorry about getting back to this so late, it's been busy around here.

Investment Theft Loss Experts never take more than 20% of the Gross Federal Tax Benefit; but base the fee on 3% of the deductible cost basis (essentially the amount being used for the claim).

A $100,000 loss would represent a $3,000.00 fee, on a deferred or contingent basis (NO MONEY UP FRONT). The $3,000 fee would hold so long as the gross federal tax benefit for the injured investor was $15,000 or higher.

If the gross benefit was less than $15,000; our fee would be lowered to 20% of the actual benefit.

a $100,000 claim can net anywhere from $10,000 to $35,000 in treasury refunds depending on income.

The actual answer to your question is, "A firm like ours isn't expensive at all since the fee is being paid by the successful outcome."

Most of the time when you think of expensive, people think of "out-of-pocket" expense.

If Investment Theft Loss Experts is unsuccessful we don't get paid.....and the taxpayer really only invested the time it took to supply our organization with the documentation we require.

Give me a call and I'll calculate your refund benefit at no charge and for no obligation from you. If the benefit is significant and the recovery would be meaningful, you'll be better informed and able to make a decsion about whether this benefit makes sense for you.

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Thanks for the follow up.

Sincerely,

Steve Mead
Managing Partner
Investment Theft Loss Experts
1-800-889-1602

drake

Springfield, VA

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Theft Loss Expert wrote:

<quoted text>
Sorry about getting back to this so late, it's been busy around here.
Investment Theft Loss Experts never take more than 20% of the Gross Federal Tax Benefit; but base the fee on 3% of the deductible cost basis (essentially the amount being used for the claim).
A $100,000 loss would represent a $3,000.00 fee, on a deferred or contingent basis (NO MONEY UP FRONT). The $3,000 fee would hold so long as the gross federal tax benefit for the injured investor was $15,000 or higher.
If the gross benefit was less than $15,000; our fee would be lowered to 20% of the actual benefit.
a $100,000 claim can net anywhere from $10,000 to $35,000 in treasury refunds depending on income.
The actual answer to your question is, "A firm like ours isn't expensive at all since the fee is being paid by the successful outcome."
Most of the time when you think of expensive, people think of "out-of-pocket" expense.
If Investment Theft Loss Experts is unsuccessful we don't get paid.....and the taxpayer really only invested the time it took to supply our organization with the documentation we require.
Give me a call and I'll calculate your refund benefit at no charge and for no obligation from you. If the benefit is significant and the recovery would be meaningful, you'll be better informed and able to make a decsion about whether this benefit makes sense for you.
Believe me,when taking on business with a deferral or contigent business model; if this benefit doesn't make sense for you, we will be the first ones to tell you.
Thanks for the follow up.
Sincerely,
Steve Mead
Managing Partner
Investment Theft Loss Experts
1-800-889-1602

Thanks for the info. Actually, I didn't lose any money. I wanted for you to provide info on this page so others can see their options and determine if your program is a fit.

Theft Loss Expert

Since: Sep 09

Tampa, FL

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drake wrote:

<quoted text> Thanks for the info. Actually, I didn't lose any money. I wanted for you to provide info on this page so others can see their options and determine if your program is a fit.

Have them check out this article.

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/news/tax-de...

Since: Mar 09

2,598

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good luck

CYNIC wrote:

Loyalty,
I came to CCG, JB, Jr and you for answers to some basic questions about CCG and my money. What I got from all of you were evasiveness, belligerence, arrogance and downright personal attacks. I had every right to that information and CCG was obligated to provide it. There are no longer mentions of the happy truck that would be rolling again in the fall or by the end of the year.
Here is a little secret. Your people got on this forum to put a spin on this mess to limit the damage to your scam. What you succeeded in doing was steadily eroding your support base. Every time you turned nasty on depositors that wanted to know the same things lots of other watching depositors also wanted to know, you lost depositors. Every time you shaded the truth…LIED, you lost. They didn’t have to be big lies. Many of the lies were modest and self-serving, but they were details that some of the people watching this forum personally knew were not true (and knew you knew they were not true). You know they had to think if you lied or misled about those things for the boys, the boys probably could not be trusted with the big things like money. Those loony pronouncements about sovereign citizens, phony bonds, phony lawyer, phony license plates, weird bankruptcy filing and going after officials (including several prominent African Americans) who were just doing their jobs did not help your cause any. Oh yeah, you later denied that the boys raised any kind of racial bias charge about the whole mess, but anybody that could read a newspaper saw that was a charge raised by the boys’ attorney. There was the thing about us depositors suddenly being promoted to “constituents” when it came time to file for bankruptcy. We weren’t even listed as creditors. It was an attempt to make us seem more a part of something you and your people told us was really none of our business.
That brings us to the biggest lie of them all. That would be the “different processes” directed by the methods of Jesus that “…are far beyond calculus and trigonometry.” Tell me how many innocent people do you know, when confronted with possible serious prison time and destruction of their business would refuse to give a solid alibi that they didn’t do the crime? How many supposedly caring Christian people do you know would insist that they wait until they are indicted and ignore the terrible harm the wait was doing to hundreds or thousands of depositors that trusted them with their money rather than provide a guiltless explanation? If the boys have a legitimate explanation, it is just as true and provable now as it would be at trial. The longer the authorities expend valuable resources pursuing something the boys could easily dispel, the harder it will be to convince those authorities that there was no wrong there in the first place.
Wait, I have one more thing to bring up. What was with this big spending spree the boys went on in less than a year? That is a lot of non-income producing property for an investment operation to acquire. It is also a lot of personal use property. Could it be a clear indication of the boys’ true motivations?

Since: Mar 09

2,598

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good luck

CYNIC wrote:

Loyalty,
I came to CCG, JB, Jr and you for answers to some basic questions about CCG and my money. What I got from all of you were evasiveness, belligerence, arrogance and downright personal attacks. I had every right to that information and CCG was obligated to provide it. There are no longer mentions of the happy truck that would be rolling again in the fall or by the end of the year.
Here is a little secret. Your people got on this forum to put a spin on this mess to limit the damage to your scam. What you succeeded in doing was steadily eroding your support base. Every time you turned nasty on depositors that wanted to know the same things lots of other watching depositors also wanted to know, you lost depositors. Every time you shaded the truth…LIED, you lost. They didn’t have to be big lies. Many of the lies were modest and self-serving, but they were details that some of the people watching this forum personally knew were not true (and knew you knew they were not true). You know they had to think if you lied or misled about those things for the boys, the boys probably could not be trusted with the big things like money. Those loony pronouncements about sovereign citizens, phony bonds, phony lawyer, phony license plates, weird bankruptcy filing and going after officials (including several prominent African Americans) who were just doing their jobs did not help your cause any. Oh yeah, you later denied that the boys raised any kind of racial bias charge about the whole mess, but anybody that could read a newspaper saw that was a charge raised by the boys’ attorney. There was the thing about us depositors suddenly being promoted to “constituents” when it came time to file for bankruptcy. We weren’t even listed as creditors. It was an attempt to make us seem more a part of something you and your people told us was really none of our business.
That brings us to the biggest lie of them all. That would be the “different processes” directed by the methods of Jesus that “…are far beyond calculus and trigonometry.” Tell me how many innocent people do you know, when confronted with possible serious prison time and destruction of their business would refuse to give a solid alibi that they didn’t do the crime? How many supposedly caring Christian people do you know would insist that they wait until they are indicted and ignore the terrible harm the wait was doing to hundreds or thousands of depositors that trusted them with their money rather than provide a guiltless explanation? If the boys have a legitimate explanation, it is just as true and provable now as it would be at trial. The longer the authorities expend valuable resources pursuing something the boys could easily dispel, the harder it will be to convince those authorities that there was no wrong there in the first place.
Wait, I have one more thing to bring up. What was with this big spending spree the boys went on in less than a year? That is a lot of non-income producing property for an investment operation to acquire. It is also a lot of personal use property. Could it be a clear indication of the boys’ true motivations?

Since: Mar 09

2,598

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EDIT: dang it posted twice ha ha the first one did not went through so i thought sorry for double posts

Tsukiahi wrote:

hello, i am so sorry that you did not found out what you where looking for, how ever i am positive that you have heard about this
feature or application that yahoo provides, it is called yahoo answer people just like you or me ask a question and people from
all over the world reply to you.
I have to say you might find some who are very rude, mean and stupid. so do not let them to upset you, you will find the answer you are looking for, cause i did find many answers to my questions.
good luck
<quoted text>

drake

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Tsukiahi wrote:

hello, i am so sorry that you did not found out what you where looking for, how ever i am positive that you have heard about this
feature or application that yahoo provides, it is called yahoo answer people just like you or me ask a question and people from
all over the world reply to you.
I have to say you might find some who are very rude, mean and stupid. so do not let them to upset you, you will find the answer you are looking for, cause i did find many answers to my questions.
good luck
<quoted text>

Huh??

Since: Mar 09

2,598

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LOL, i was replying to

CYNIC
AOL
Jan 21, 2008

Loyalty,
I came to CCG, JB, Jr and you for answers to some basic questions about CCG and my money. What I got from all of you were evasiveness, belligerence, arrogance and downright personal attacks. I had every right to that information and CCG was obligated to provide it. There are no longer mentions of the happy truck that would be rolling again in the fall or by the end of the year.

where she/he can get the answers, using yahoo answer

as simple as that

drake wrote:

<quoted text>Huh??

drake

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CCG followers,

Where are you?? Looks like your boyz are going down. LOL!

Jury selection is scheduled to start today in the federal case of three Columbia-area men accused of running the $82 million "3 Hebrew Boys" investment scheme.
The men are accused of luring at least 7,000 investors from two dozen states, including many from military bases, with promises of returns up to 500 percent, authorities said.
The men told investors the money would go into foreign currency exchange markets. Instead, the group's leaders are accused of investing less than $40,000 and going on shopping sprees, authorities said.
Joseph Brunson of Hopkins; Timothy McQueen of Blythewood; and Tony Pough of Columbia
The assets
Major assets linked to the Three Hebrew Boys and associated companies according to a court-appointed receiver. Some items have been sold to help recoup money for investors if three organizers are convicted of leading an alleged Ponzi scheme:
Sold
Jet: 1969 Gulfstream GII-B
Luxury boxes: Two at Georgia Dome and one at Bank of America Stadium
Vehicles: 2006 BMW 750Li sedan, 2004 BMW X3 2.5I, 2006 Cadillac CTS, 2006 Cadillac DTS, 2007 Chrysler 300 Touring LXL (2), 1999 Dodge Durango, 2007 Dodge Ram truck (2), 2007 Dodge Sprinter van (2), 2006 Ford E456, 2005 GMC Sierra, 2007 GMC Yukon Denali, 2007 Lexus LS460L, 2007 Lexus RX350, 2005 Mercedes SL500 and 2006 Saab 95
Seized and for sale
Condos: Three in Atlanta's Buckhead neighborhood
Homes: Two near Walt Disney World in Kissimmee, Fla.
Land: 20 acres in Orangeburg County
Lots: About 12 in the Columbia area, with half in the Hastings Point subdivision just north of the city
Motorcoach: 2006 Prevost
Offices/warehouses: North Main Street and Horseshoe Drive in Columbia
Stock: S.C. Community Bank shares worth an estimated $2.16 million in June 2008
Vehicles: 2006 Ford Excursion, 2007 Lexus LS 460L and 2006 Lexus GS
Returned to Dealer
Vehicle: 2007 Mercedes SLK 280
Not found
Vehicles: 2007 Dodge Charger, 2007 Dodge Ram Laramie truck, 2007 Lexus LS 460L, 2007 Mercedes SL600R, 2007 Mercedes Roadster AMG, 2006 GMC Envoy and 2006 Mercedes CLS500C
SOURCE: 3hbreceiver.com
Their purchases included a $5 million jet, homes, condos and luxury stadium boxes, authorities said.

drake

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Accused of federal mail fraud charges: are Joseph Brunson of Hopkins; Timothy McQueen of Blythewood; and Tony Pough of Columbia.
The trio has denied any wrongdoing and said at rallies their work is faith-based and does not fall under securities laws.
On Monday, the three men, on their own, filed an answer to the indictment that said the government's case is fraudulent because they are not citizens of the country.
Instead, they are ancestors of people who lived in what's now the United State before the European colonists arrived.
The men also said since they have not damaged the plaintiff in the case, the United States of America, federal prosecutors have "failed in their duties" to protect the constitution.
They also accuse the U.S. attorney's office in South Carolina of 83 "unlawful actions," including racketeering, armed assault, theft of public funds, treason and failing to prevent apartheid and genocide. The actions are punishable with fines from $250,000 to $2 million each, they wrote.
"We Declare the vicious lies, fraudulent accusations, and unlawful assertions made by the invading parties on Ancestral lands to be without any merit," they wrote.
They said they sent copies of the filing to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner.
In the meantime Monday, attorneys assigned to Pough and McQueen asked for the case to be dismissed.
Efforts to reach the men Monday were unsuccessful. Attorneys for Pough and McQueen as well as federal prosecutors declined comment.
It's not unusual for the men to file motions saying that U.S. law does not apply to them. Last year, they filed a counterclaim against the government asking for $1 trillion or 1 billion ounces of ".999 percent silver," whichever is greater. A prosecutor called the filing "nonsensical."

drake

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MAYBE SOMEONE IS FEELING THE HOT BREATH OF RECKONING.

Just last month, however, Brunson - who underwent a court-ordered 45-day mental evaluation last year - apologized to prosecutors and the judge in separate letters.

"Please forgive me for any inconvenience or offense I may have caused you," Brunson wrote to Federal District Judge Margaret Seymour. "I consider you an honorable person. It is clear that you are a fine judge and public servant and I have erred. I only have two words for my misconduct,'FORGIVE ME.' "

Three days before the apology, however, Brunson petitioned to fire his attorney.

The men were first arrested by state officials in 2007 for selling unregistered securities. They were indicted on federal charges a year later.

They could get up to 20 years in prison if convicted on 35 federal counts of mail fraud and one count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud.

They also face up to 20 years on state charges of securities fraud, failure to file state income tax returns and selling unregistered securities. The state cases are expected to follow the federal trial.

Authorities said last year they hope to return about $18 million recovered in bank accounts to investors of the firms known as 3 Hebrew Boys and Capital Consortium Group.

More money has been raised by selling some items seized from the accused and their companies: a private jet, three stadium luxury boxes in Atlanta and Charlotte and 17 vehicles - including a Mercedes and a BMW, according to the Web site for the court-appointed receiver.

The receiver is still trying to sell two Atlanta condos, two homes near Walt Disney World, a motorcoach and stock in a Columbia bank worth more than $2 million last year.

Detkuz

Fayetteville, NC

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These guys were staight until the other man got his hands in the cookie jar! See the other man do not want to see us phrosper , they want to keep us down .The HEBREW BOYS was trying to look out for us that was unfortunate to be rich. So,they tried to help .Like some of you goys, I was a soldier to but I understood the process of investing .EVER DENTLY you did not! I invested way more than some people and some people more then myself.BUT I do not worry about that because,I know for myself if the other man had not got involve I would be looking real GOOD about now and feeling good! I support the HEBREW BOYS 150PLUS%.May GOD be with you guys! Buy, the way if you guys did not believe in the Hebrew Boys. Why did you invest your money? FREAKING IDIOTS!

drake

Alexandria, VA

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Detkuz wrote:

These guys were staight until the other man got his hands in the cookie jar! See the other man do not want to see us phrosper , they want to keep us down .The HEBREW BOYS was trying to look out for us that was unfortunate to be rich. So,they tried to help .Like some of you goys, I was a soldier to but I understood the process of investing .EVER DENTLY you did not! I invested way more than some people and some people more then myself.BUT I do not worry about that because,I know for myself if the other man had not got involve I would be looking real GOOD about now and feeling good! I support the HEBREW BOYS 150PLUS%.May GOD be with you guys! Buy, the way if you guys did not believe in the Hebrew Boys. Why did you invest your money? FREAKING IDIOTS!

Joe Jr.

No, I didnt' invest my money. The fact is, regardless if your boys you claim were straight, why are they coming straight with the courts? Three men that never had expirence in investing claims to have found the secret. Why did they lie? Why did Joe Sr, have to see go to the crazy ward order by the Federal Judge?f

Of course you are a member of this Moorish Cult that the boyz belong to. The fact is they are on trial. Supporters claim this day will never come. Well...guess what...judgement day is about here. LMAO!

drake

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The boys were found guilty!! LMAO!!! Where are these great CCG supporters??

drake