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Mims
Livermore, CA
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So sorry for the family of this child - their lives will never be the same and his is over - already. That wonderful teenaged sense of invincibility is deathly.
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WTF
Oakland, CA
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My friend David Goddered i will always miss you !;(
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Hmmmm
Livermore, CA
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Very sad. Such a young life lost.
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family friend
Clayton, CA
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There is family that will see this. Show some respect and keep the name calling to yourself. It does nothing but make you look like a big heartless prick. He was a fantastic kid who made a bad choice. When you become perfect you can speak until then you should keep it to yourself.
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Real anon
Livermore, CA
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I agree, he could of killed me. He made Several bad choices that night
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Saidit
Dublin, CA
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tHE rEAL aNON wrote: See Dick Drink.
See Dick Drive.
See Dick Die.
End of story. Goodbye to the Dick that Drank. thank god he only killed himself and did not hurt anyone else. why don't you quit being a dick. I agree this tragedy should never have occurred, but you can be more civil in your comments.
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Jailer
Dublin, CA
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tHE rEAL aNON wrote: See Dick Drink.
See Dick Drive.
See Dick Die.
End of story. Goodbye to the Dick that Drank. thank god he only killed himself and did not hurt anyone else. Be nice. Nobody gave you any grief when you were arrested.
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Level 5
Since: Oct 10
Livermore, CA
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Please wait...
Just so it is clear, I am the Real Anon (the only one), and those are not my comments. Condolences to the friends and family of this young man. To the rest of you, maybe he was indeed intoxicated, but maybe he had a mechanical problem with his vehicle - he didn't even attempt to stop, how drunk would you have to be to just floor it straight on into an obstacle? Plus, that is curvy there, its not like you'd normally be going real fast coming out of the curve.
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disgusted by your comment
Thousand Oaks, CA
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tHE rEAL aNON wrote: See Dick Drink.
See Dick Drive.
See Dick Die.
End of story. Goodbye to the Dick that Drank. thank god he only killed himself and did not hurt anyone else. You are a pig, you disgust me! I hope you never have to feel the pain of losing a loved one so tragically, drunk or sober. It changes your world forever, I know this personally! Why are you hiding behind a fake screen name? We all know you're not the real "Real Anon". Who are you really?
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UnBelieVAble
San Francisco, CA
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The Real Anon wrote: Just so it is clear, I am the Real Anon (the only one), and those are not my comments. Condolences to the friends and family of this young man.
To the rest of you, maybe he was indeed intoxicated, but maybe he had a mechanical problem with his vehicle - he didn't even attempt to stop, how drunk would you have to be to just floor it straight on into an obstacle? Plus, that is curvy there, its not like you'd normally be going real fast coming out of the curve. My thoughts and prayers to the family at this time. This is the saddest thing that can happen. I hope they get tremendous support from family, friends, and the community at this time. I saw the accidents scene. The van is still there. I agree with Anon that something is wrong here. He would have had to realize where he was headed, but never attempted to stop. Was he unconscious? Something wrong with the vehicle?? This should be investigated, which is more painful to the family!! I also want to say how angry I feel toward the person or people he was with just prior to this! Who let him drive? Who was he drinking with. I hope this death saves other lives by waking up the Livermore youth who drink and drive, or allow others to do so!! Please kids, don't drink and drive, or let each other drink and drive. Make agreements that you can take away keys, and if you get in trouble from your parents, bettter you are alive to do so...prayers
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UnBelieVAble
San Francisco, CA
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tHE rEAL aNON wrote: See Dick Drink.
See Dick Drive.
See Dick Die.
End of story. Goodbye to the Dick that Drank. thank god he only killed himself and did not hurt anyone else. It is nice to be anonymous, you can say ignorant things and get away with it. The rest of us must put up with people like you to keep our freedom of speech. I doubt you would say this out loud to too many people. Maybe you would, sad. So, best to ignore you, as your probably not old enough to be on here anyway..
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Jim
Livermore, CA
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UnBelieVAble wrote: <quoted text>
My thoughts and prayers to the family at this time. This is the saddest thing that can happen. I hope they get tremendous support from family, friends, and the community at this time.
I saw the accidents scene. The van is still there. I agree with Anon that something is wrong here. He would have had to realize where he was headed, but never attempted to stop. Was he unconscious? Something wrong with the vehicle?? This should be investigated, which is more painful to the family!!
I also want to say how angry I feel toward the person or people he was with just prior to this! Who let him drive? Who was he drinking with. I hope this death saves other lives by waking up the Livermore youth who drink and drive, or allow others to do so!! Please kids, don't drink and drive, or let each other drink and drive. Make agreements that you can take away keys, and if you get in trouble from your parents, bettter you are alive to do so...prayers My 17 year old son knew David Goddard through a mutual friend. I have to tell you that this tragedy touches us all - directly involved or not. Most of us can relate at least on the level that this is a parents worst nightmare. I am a believer that even in bad, we can find good if we look hard enough. I have been amazed at the teen conversations I've heard since this accident and they give me hope that the teens listen more than we think and MAYBE this catastrophe will save someone else. The kids are too questioning why anyone let David drive? Why didn't someone take his keys? Give him a ride? Tell him to stay put? The kids too feel sad especially since this accident may have been avoidable. I hope they don't forget... I think as parents it is a tough and fine line we walk. To provide alcohol to kids <21 is illegal and by doing so and/or offering a ride we may send the message of condoning the behavior. Fact is, not all teens try drugs but MOST will try drinking. While I have never provided alcohol to underage kids, I have always made it clear that my kids could call for a ride, anytime, for any reason and I would pick them and their friends up. I still struggle with the issue but I would rather provide a ride irregardless of the circumstance vs. get a call to go identify my child and/or their buddy. My prayers go out to the Goddard family. I am so sorry for your loss.
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family friend
Clayton, CA
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UnBelieVAble wrote: <quoted text>My thoughts and prayers to the family at this time. This is the saddest thing that can happen. I hope they get tremendous support from family, friends, and the community at this time.
I saw the accidents scene. The van is still there. I agree with Anon that something is wrong here. He would have had to realize where he was headed, but never attempted to stop. Was he unconscious? Something wrong with the vehicle?? This should be investigated, which is more painful to the family!!
I also want to say how angry I feel toward the person or people he was with just prior to this! Who let him drive? Who was he drinking with. I hope this death saves other lives by waking up the Livermore youth who drink and drive, or allow others to do so!! Please kids, don't drink and drive, or let each other drink and drive. Make agreements that you can take away keys, and if you get in trouble from your parents, bettter you are alive to do so...prayers the van he was driving was removed that night. It was cut up with the jaws of life, into many pieces. The van at the scene is the van he hit after he went through the fence. He was loved by many and I also hope these kids learn from this tragic loss and no other lives will be lost.
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Level 5
Since: Oct 10
Livermore, CA
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Jim wrote: <quoted text>
My 17 year old son knew David Goddard through a mutual friend. I have to tell you that this tragedy touches us all - directly involved or not. Most of us can relate at least on the level that this is a parents worst nightmare.
I am a believer that even in bad, we can find good if we look hard enough. I have been amazed at the teen conversations I've heard since this accident and they give me hope that the teens listen more than we think and MAYBE this catastrophe will save someone else. The kids are too questioning why anyone let David drive? Why didn't someone take his keys? Give him a ride? Tell him to stay put? The kids too feel sad especially since this accident may have been avoidable. I hope they don't forget...
I think as parents it is a tough and fine line we walk. To provide alcohol to kids <21 is illegal and by doing so and/or offering a ride we may send the message of condoning the behavior.
Fact is, not all teens try drugs but MOST will try drinking. While I have never provided alcohol to underage kids, I have always made it clear that my kids could call for a ride, anytime, for any reason and I would pick them and their friends up. I still struggle with the issue but I would rather provide a ride irregardless of the circumstance vs. get a call to go identify my child and/or their buddy.
My prayers go out to the Goddard family. I am so sorry for your loss. Well said, Jim. I have observed that teens struggle or have trouble with peer pressure. It is very hard for a teen to be the authoritarian "Give me your keys" kind of person. They don't have the leadership, self confidence, and social skills to do that. A few might. The vast majority don't. Especially if faced with a belligerent drunk, a quiet drunk (who might go undetected as very impaired by his peers), or the occasional drunk (who doesn't drink, or so seldomly that his peers are not scrutinizing his behavior). And especially when teens are surrounded by intoxicated peers, there is nobody sober enough to do any of that and thus the peer group cannot "self police". This is why police departments crack down so heavily on teen drinking.
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So Sad
Livermore, CA
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Jim, I can tell you that several kids did try and take his keys. My son was there and witnessed this first hand and tried to talk him out of driving. Maybe they should have physically removed the keys from his hands, a regret that those boys will live with for the rest of their lives. Apparently this was not the first time the boy drank and then got behind the wheel (according to other kids at the party). It is such a horrific tragedy and my heart goes out to the family. Jim wrote: <quoted text>
My 17 year old son knew David Goddard through a mutual friend. I have to tell you that this tragedy touches us all - directly involved or not. Most of us can relate at least on the level that this is a parents worst nightmare.
I am a believer that even in bad, we can find good if we look hard enough. I have been amazed at the teen conversations I've heard since this accident and they give me hope that the teens listen more than we think and MAYBE this catastrophe will save someone else. The kids are too questioning why anyone let David drive? Why didn't someone take his keys? Give him a ride? Tell him to stay put? The kids too feel sad especially since this accident may have been avoidable. I hope they don't forget...
I think as parents it is a tough and fine line we walk. To provide alcohol to kids <21 is illegal and by doing so and/or offering a ride we may send the message of condoning the behavior.
Fact is, not all teens try drugs but MOST will try drinking. While I have never provided alcohol to underage kids, I have always made it clear that my kids could call for a ride, anytime, for any reason and I would pick them and their friends up. I still struggle with the issue but I would rather provide a ride irregardless of the circumstance vs. get a call to go identify my child and/or their buddy.
My prayers go out to the Goddard family. I am so sorry for your loss.
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A friend
Livermore, CA
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Does anyone know when the services will be?
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Jim
Livermore, CA
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So Sad wrote: Jim,
I can tell you that several kids did try and take his keys. My son was there and witnessed this first hand and tried to talk him out of driving. Maybe they should have physically removed the keys from his hands, a regret that those boys will live with for the rest of their lives.
Apparently this was not the first time the boy drank and then got behind the wheel (according to other kids at the party). It is such a horrific tragedy and my heart goes out to the family.
<quoted text> While I am so sad about this issue, it is good to know that 'someone' stepped in to try to avoid the issue. There is only so much we can do and hopefully the kids to tried to stop David won't feel responsible - they acted and tried which is all we really can ask.
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family friend
Livermore, CA
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A friend wrote: Does anyone know when the services will be? they have not been set yet.
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ur a dumas
Hayward, CA
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So Sad wrote: <quoted text>Jim,
I can tell you that several kids did try and take his keys. My son was there and witnessed this first hand and tried to talk him out of driving. Maybe they should have physically removed the keys from his hands, a regret that those boys will live with for the rest of their lives.
Apparently this was not the first time the boy drank and then got behind the wheel (according to other kids at the party). It is such a horrific tragedy and my heart goes out to the family. So then you're saying your under age son was there drinking also, nice. Maybe he should get it straight. Maybe he was to drunk to see what really happened. Cause that is not the real story of what happened. And you might be surprised if you knew the truth and knew just how many kids in town and elsewhere are drinking and driving every weekend. What say such mean stuff. He is gone and family is reading this and it causes undo anger that your putting this crap put there. Just sayn.
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Level 5
Since: Oct 10
Livermore, CA
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ur a dumas wrote: <quoted text>
So then you're saying your under age son was there drinking also, nice. Maybe he should get it straight. Maybe he was to drunk to see what really happened. Cause that is not the real story of what happened. And you might be surprised if you knew the truth and knew just how many kids in town and elsewhere are drinking and driving every weekend. What say such mean stuff. He is gone and family is reading this and it causes undo anger that your putting this crap put there. Just sayn. People want to know - why does it matter? Well, it matters because how you talk to your kids about this defines or can influence how they will act if a similar situation is presented. If I am not mistaken, MADD runs workshops for teens that simulate these scenarios to empower kids to take action when it is needed.
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