Burrows Bridge

So Billy has started construction on his own bridge to cross the river to the Hydro electric plant access road. Why cant Little Falls get its sh*t together and fix the existing South ann st bridge???

MyVoteWenttoBobby wrote:

So Billy has started construction on his own bridge to cross the river to the Hydro electric plant access road. Why cant Little Falls get its sh*t together and fix the existing South ann st bridge???

You must be new here. Those of us who have suffered under the city's inaction for years have never been able to fully answer that question.

MyVoteWenttoBobby wrote:

So Billy has started construction on his own bridge to cross the river to the Hydro electric plant access road. Why cant Little Falls get its sh*t together and fix the existing South ann st bridge???

Billy does not have to follow the same standards as the city. His is a private bridge.
Tha Ann Street has gone out to bid within the last month.

The power company is making a bridge. Lets just use theirs.

Good point Duh, The other bridge has much lower standards and will have very little use.
We as a city should of closed the Ann St bridge years ago. Force the states hand in helping. especially before residents moved in. a foot bridge to the canal and moss island would of been enough

Reality Checker wrote:

The power company is making a bridge. Lets just use theirs.

We can't it does not have the requirements needed.
It is a private bridge hence much cheaper to build and not approved for public access.I suppose they could put in a credit card swipe and charge mega bucks to use.
National Grid also needs access to Mohawk St.The have given monies toward the cost of the new Ann Street bridge.

lfmanski wrote:

Good point Duh, The other bridge has much lower standards and will have very little use.
We as a city should of closed the Ann St bridge years ago. Force the states hand in helping. especially before residents moved in. a foot bridge to the canal and moss island would of been enough

It would have to be federal monies since it's a city owned bridge I doubt we would have gotten funding from the state.City owned bridges are very low on the totem pole of projects to fund.
The only way I see that occurring is through flood damage.So far the bridge has not qualified for that either.

MyVoteWenttoBobby wrote:

So Billy has started construction on his own bridge to cross the river to the Hydro electric plant access road. Why cant Little Falls get its sh*t together and fix the existing South ann st bridge???

Are you kidding? The City can't even demolish a building. No way can they build a bridge. Mark my words. You tear down the Ann Street bridge and the end result will be another pile of rubble in the City, no bridge, nothing else.

Those on the Council who will vote on this need to be fully aware of what they are actually voting on. Building rubble piles is all this City adminstration can do. Don't kid yourself.

Maybe wrote:

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It would have to be federal monies since it's a city owned bridge I doubt we would have gotten funding from the state.City owned bridges are very low on the totem pole of projects to fund.
The only way I see that occurring is through flood damage.So far the bridge has not qualified for that either.

The State gives priority in funding to those communities with a Master Plan. Little Falls has chosen not to have a Master Plan, therefore it does not get the State funding that it would if it decided to write a Master Plan.

Jean Linen wrote:

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The State gives priority in funding to those communities with a Master Plan. Little Falls has chosen not to have a Master Plan, therefore it does not get the State funding that it would if it decided to write a Master Plan.

Not true when it comes to replacing a bridge. The state does not help cities replace their own bridges especially one with little traffic.
It was the cities responsibility to maintain the Ann Street bridge. Because the prior administration did not we are now looking as new bridge vs. repairing.
There was a meeting with both feds and state agencies along with Bulter, Steward, Acuri, NG and the hydroplant 3 years ago and the city was told there was no money to help.
There is a waterfront master plan and Ann Street bridge is included in that plan.

Jean Linen wrote:

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Are you kidding? The City can't even demolish a building. No way can they build a bridge. Mark my words. You tear down the Ann Street bridge and the end result will be another pile of rubble in the City, no bridge, nothing else.
Those on the Council who will vote on this need to be fully aware of what they are actually voting on. Building rubble piles is all this City adminstration can do. Don't kid yourself.

They already voted on it. It went out to bid.

acually billy had offered to put in money for the project but he city would not put in the bridge needed to get heavyer equipment over to the hydro plant needed to do maintenance to the plant over there and people wont be able to use the bridge its behind a fence and one will be put on the other side as well.

hello315 wrote:

actually billy had offered to put in money for the project but he city would not put in the bridge needed to get heavier equipment over to the hydro plant needed to do maintenance to the plant over there and people wont be able to use the bridge its behind a fence and one will be put on the other side as well.

The bridge was originally going to be 40 ton for the hydro plant to be able to bring their equipment over it. They declined and wanted to build their own bridge. The city then changed to the 20 ton as the extra weight was not needed and was cheaper for the tax payers.
The hydro plant never offered to give monies.They chose to build their own and have it in a secure location.

Gossip wrote:

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The bridge was originally going to be 40 ton for the hydro plant to be able to bring their equipment over it. They declined and wanted to build their own bridge. The city then changed to the 20 ton as the extra weight was not needed and was cheaper for the tax payers.
The hydro plant never offered to give monies.They chose to build their own and have it in a secure location.

The fact is that Burrows needs a bridge. Another fact is that a bunch of idiots who cannot even demolish a house cannot build a bridge. So, it meant that if you need a bridge, you cannot partner with the City, because the bridge would never get built. So, you must build one yourself.

Common sense.

Can you imagine the reaction of an individual to having the current Mayor of Little Falls asking them if they wanted to partner up to build a bridge? You'd have to bite your lip so hard it would bleed, and as soon as he was gone, you'd laugh until it hurt.

Tom Pain wrote:

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The fact is that Burrows needs a bridge. Another fact is that a bunch of idiots who cannot even demolish a house cannot build a bridge. So, it meant that if you need a bridge, you cannot partner with the City, because the bridge would never get built. So, you must build one yourself.
Common sense.

Educate yourself on bridge construction and how it's done.
That would not be a concerned of Burrows. Concerns for them are security driven hence having a security fence and a gate install on their new bridge before crossing.

Maybe wrote:

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It would have to be federal monies since it's a city owned bridge I doubt we would have gotten funding from the state.City owned bridges are very low on the totem pole of projects to fund.
The only way I see that occurring is through flood damage.So far the bridge has not qualified for that either.

good point Federal money but administered by the state.