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Me Myself and I

Rolla, MO

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Aug 13, 2009
 
When tragedies like those that have happened over the past few days occur people start blaming DFS for not doing more, but when there are no tragedies involved people blame DFS for "taking kids for no reason".
My family has had to work with Texas Co DFS a few times (for a family member) and I think that they do a great job. They try to give every opportunity possible for a child to remain with their parents. However, there are cases that they have to remove the child. In my families case it was a good thing. They removed the children and they are being cared for by my mother and their lives will be much better than they would have been.
My question is:
What are your thoughts about Texas County DFS?
**I am not trying to place any kind of blame on anyone for the tragedies that occurred. I just want to know what you think about Texas Co DFS.**
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Orrick, MO

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Aug 13, 2009
 

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I thinks DFS around here doesn't do nothing for the kids around here. These kids are not getting help from this program. I know a family that has been reported so many times and DFS still won't take those children away. Its cleary not a good environment for them.They have been reported 5 times and nothing has not been done. These Children NEED HELP!!!
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Plattsburg, MO

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Aug 14, 2009
 
Well here is my theory, I think programs like Div. of Child Protective Services are suffering finacially due to the resession we are in. Let's face it states are having to cut funding to programs to help fund unemployment costs...which i might add are getting worse instead of better (thought the 700 billion dollar stimulus was gonna help, yea right).

When a child is taken from the home they are placed in foster care, which the state pays for. A child can be in foster care for a while. Sometimes the parents of the children are required to attend parenting classes or some sort of drug rehab, which the state pays for. This all doesn't include all the paperwork and court apperances that are required, also funded by the state.

The truth is people it is time to reclaim our country and our community. Tell big gov. enough is enough, our children are suffering.
Thinking hard

Sullivan, MO

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Aug 14, 2009
 

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I have not had any dealings really with Texas Co. DFS, but I think politics plays a large part. I knew one little girl that was taken away from her mother and placed with the abusive father, because he had a family member that worked for Tex. co dfs. Later, when the child was old enough, she left her father of her own accord, after he pointed a gun at her, and went back to her mother. This child went through alot because of the corruption that was going on at that time in the local dfs. I'm not sure what it is like now.
It has seemed that they are quick to jump in if they have an agenda of their own, while truly abused kids are left to live or die as the cards may fall.
I do know that they are supposed to follow certain guidelines, and they are supposed to try to keep families together if there is hope that that problems can be dealt with. In the case of sexual abuse, the child is supposed to be taken and never returned, nor have any contact with the offender. But in the case of neglect, etc. they will try to teach the parents how to become better parents. The parenting classes are very good. I took them of my own volition when my kids were small, because I wanted to be the best parent I could be. I learned alot. Many young girls that have babies, simply do not have the skills or life experience to do a good job of parenting. They need the help.
I think that parenting classes and the like should be made available to all parents. I don't think it would necessarily be a bad thing if there were some mandatory classes for girls that come up pregnant and unmarried. These girls likely don't know what the signs of danger in a boyfriend are. Many of them do not have the experience to know an abuser when they see one.
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Columbia, MO

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Aug 14, 2009
 
WONDERING wrote:
I thinks DFS around here doesn't do nothing for the kids around here. These kids are not getting help from this program. I know a family that has been reported so many times and DFS still won't take those children away. Its cleary not a good environment for them.They have been reported 5 times and nothing has not been done. These Children NEED HELP!!!
If the reports were made through the hotline it wouldnt be up to texas county. They (hotline) decide if the report meets the criteria to investigate then they send a worker to the home. When you say environment I take that to mean that you dont agree with the raising the kids are getting, but is it abuse?
Thinking hard

Sullivan, MO

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I also think that the problem exists long before many of these teenage girls even become pregnant. It would be good if there would be some parenting classes available for parents of teenagers. Of course, parents would have to care enough to go to the classes. I know that when my children were teens, that is when I really felt adrift in an ocean of uncertainty. If some of the parents in this area could do a better job with their teens, then there might likely be less teen pregnancy. It's really hard to raise teenagers and impress on them strongly enough, the things they need to know and do to prevent becoming a statistic.
If you observe, some of these young parents are second or third generation of families on public assistance. Many of the parents of the young unwed parent have not had a high school education themselves. We are on third or fourth generation of parental neglect. This has long been a depressed area, and the potential for personal growth has been very stunted.
Taking kids away, will protect that child, but it doesn't stop the overall problem. Our nation cannot continue to support the irresponsibility of the masses that continue to breed more children that they cannot afford to care for. I do not have a ready solution, outside of spaying, lol, but I am really deliberating on the problem. Education about birth control only is effective if the young people will use it. MANY are having children purposefully. Something has to be done to make it less of a free ride for these people. I'm of the opinion, that if you are going to have children out of wedlock, that you cannot afford to care for, then the state needs to really crack down and start making these people work for their benefits. If you want and need medicaid for your pregnancy, then parenting classes and lifeskill classes should be mandatory. I have some other ideas, but maybe if having a baby was going to be more of a problem to the young person before the child is even born, then maybe so many wouldn't be so eager to become pregnant. I'm not sure of the answers, and apparently no one else is either, but I think that if the people that have the education and skills to teach these young ones would put together some plans, maybe something would get done.
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El Dorado Springs, MO

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WONDERING wrote:
I thinks DFS around here doesn't do nothing for the kids around here. These kids are not getting help from this program. I know a family that has been reported so many times and DFS still won't take those children away. Its cleary not a good environment for them.They have been reported 5 times and nothing has not been done. These Children NEED HELP!!!
I also know of a family that was hotlined 5 or 6 times, the child was in the same home as a convicted child molester, was told they wouldn't go unless me knew if he had done anything to the child. Forget about trying to protect the child BEFORE anything happens.
Me Myself and I

Rolla, MO

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That is one problem I see as well. Their guidelines do not allow them to remove the child before anything happens. They can only take the child after something has happened! That is a bit late to me.
Thinking hard

Sullivan, MO

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I agree with you. After a child is seriously maimed or dies, is much too late. There needs to be some guidelines that allow them to take the kids into protective custody if there is reason to believe they are in danger. I absolutely do not mean a witchhunt, in which any time there is a report made, they run out and seize the kids. That would be abused by people that care nothing for children but have a grudge against someone. I've first hand seen that happen. Someone makes a report, simply to get revenge on the ex wife or husband, etc.
There are usually signs that things are not right in a home. You can feel it when you walk into some residences. If a worker gets that feeling, then they need to dig deeper, and get to what's beneath the surface.
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Plattsburg, MO

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When a parent or parents are really trying to do right by their kids and they never have any trouble, but one little thing goes wrong and then DFS is right there ready to try and take the kids, but on the other hand they can be called several times to a home and nothing ever happens. They may get into trouble a little, but then the kids are back in the same situation. The DFS at Houston seem to play favorites. Really think they should be investigated by the main office in Jefferson City. If they were maybe 3 little children would not have lost their lives. We don't need clicks in the DFS. just very carrying people in there.
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Sullivan, MO

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You are absolutely right. Cliques, politics, etc. have no place in the safety of children. I have come to the conclusion that if the children are of poor families, they don't really care what happens to them. If they are of the upper crust families (granted, there's not many of those around here) or in some way related to the people that work at dfs, nothing will happen. The middle class parent that is trying to raise their children and give them a little discipline (not beatings, or anything like that) they will be taken to task. The reason I believe this is so is a mixture of apathy, not wanting to actually have to put forth much effort, and picking on the ones that they feel comfortable will not fight back.
I see the same thing in the local law enforcement agencies. They go after people for traffic violations, but do not bother with the drug dealers etc. They do not want to take the chance on endangering themselves, or in having to put forth the effort of doing anything that would look the least bit like work. If it's going to require investigation, it's going to be too much effort.
Ok, I'm on a roll, but it's absolutely shocking how things are let go that really need to be addressed, while little things are processed to the full extent. We live in an area of incredibly lazy people, including those that are supposed to be protecting society.
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Aug 31, 2009
 

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DFS was called today pertaining to an individual and dfs said they werent going to investigate. When dfs gets a call about child abuse or neglec"t, they should act on it. There is enough proof of neglect in the home and enough witnesses so why aren't they going to investigate? It's a shame. How many more children need to be hurt, or in recent cases, die before dfs takes their job more seriously?
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Aug 31, 2009
 
sorry about the typo
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Marshfield, MO

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I think I understood that there were only 2 investigators to cover Texas and Pulaski counties. is this correct? And another thought: There are not enough foster parents to place the kids in if they do take them from the home. There ought to be more serious consequences for parents when they are caught being abusive. They know when they are being abusive and neglectful because they hide it. Thinking Hard has some good points. Actually everyone does. I wish we could actually do something concrete.
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Cameron, MO

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something should be done wrote:
DFS was called today pertaining to an individual and dfs said they werent going to investigate. When dfs gets a call about child abuse or neglec"t, they should act on it. There is enough proof of neglect in the home and enough witnesses so why aren't they going to investigate? It's a shame. How many more children need to be hurt, or in recent cases, die before dfs takes their job more seriously?
I also know of a case where a person was hotlined 5 or 6 times, and not once did they go check on the child...said "it does'nt meet our criteria for a home visit". Also a case where a child had bruises all over him and they did come and check but decided no interventions was needed.
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El Dorado Springs, MO

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I also know of a case where a child had bruising as well. CPS stands for Child Protection Services, right?? If they aren't going to help you, or a child then who is? It's scary. 3 babies (that had been hotlined several times) have died in this county, already. How many more is it going to take before the take things seriously?
I'd go to the police, but the police don't help either. They know this house and are either under the asumtion that nothing is going on, or they are dumb for knowing whats going on and not taking action. It's sad what this world has come to.
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Columbia, MO

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I think there are only a couple of invest. and then they refer the people to caseworkers who are supose to monitor services in the home. There is the problem, the services are either never put in the home or not monitored as needed. This is the fault of the worker not the state. Yes, funding I am sure is an issue but they are there everyday. Make more out of it. Talk a little less, work a little more. Childrens lives are on the line.
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resident wrote:
I think there are only a couple of invest. and then they refer the people to caseworkers who are supose to monitor services in the home. There is the problem, the services are either never put in the home or not monitored as needed. This is the fault of the worker not the state. Yes, funding I am sure is an issue but they are there everyday. Make more out of it. Talk a little less, work a little more. Childrens lives are on the line.
The funding should have nothing to do with the welfare of a child. It is rediculous. When a child is involved something should be done to protect that child. end of sentence. Its such a small town that when something is said about the welfare of a child, they look at is as though someone is just trying to get revenge or be ignorant and they blow it off. It sickens me. Can you sue dfs at all? How would something like that work? If theres nothing else to do to keep a child that you know is in danger, safe, what's next? I'm lost at how things pan out for these small children. i dont know what else to do
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something should be done wrote:
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The funding should have nothing to do with the welfare of a child. It is rediculous. When a child is involved something should be done to protect that child. end of sentence. Its such a small town that when something is said about the welfare of a child, they look at is as though someone is just trying to get revenge or be ignorant and they blow it off. It sickens me. Can you sue dfs at all? How would something like that work? If theres nothing else to do to keep a child that you know is in danger, safe, what's next? I'm lost at how things pan out for these small children. i dont know what else to do
Sadly nothing can be done. It will all come out in time. Revenge has been the motive for several cases I am sure. But, in the end others will see what you are seeing also and the system will be forced to listen.
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something should be done wrote:
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The funding should have nothing to do with the welfare of a child. It is rediculous. When a child is involved something should be done to protect that child. end of sentence. Its such a small town that when something is said about the welfare of a child, they look at is as though someone is just trying to get revenge or be ignorant and they blow it off. It sickens me. Can you sue dfs at all? How would something like that work? If theres nothing else to do to keep a child that you know is in danger, safe, what's next? I'm lost at how things pan out for these small children. i dont know what else to do
I have thought about this many times,I believe DFS is between the devil and the deep blue sea.I know of cases where people have called them to exact revenge.When do you take a child out of the home??? What a difficult decision to make.They must have proof,they must be sure of removing the child from the parents.I am certainly not on here to defend DFS,mostly I am thankful I never had to make a decision like that.Its easy to Monday morning quarterback DFS.I just can't understand why parents neglect and abuse their children is maybe the biggest question I have.

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