Rockville MO Gets Horse Slaughter Plant

GET wrote:

<quoted text> Legal doesn't make it right.

You were born so that don't make it right either lol

another real horse owner wrote:

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If horse slaughter doesn't return to the US, hooray to all you have fought it. The horses will continue on their journey to Mexico and Canada. Good job. The horses will continue to die in the rising abuse and neglect. But hey, you will have won the fight. BE PROUD of the pain and suffering you have won for the US horses. There will be slaughter regardof horses just
may be some miles furher.

Yes and idiots like you will continue to take up space on this earth and deplete it for what it's worth.

wrong again ! In logic this is called the
either/or fallacy when you try and limit
people to two alternatives when there are
in fact many. "Either we slaughter horses here
in the U.S. or we ship them to Mexico." False:
the next step is to outlaw the sale of horses
for human consumption period. No more shipping
anywhere. New Jersey just joined California
in outlawing horse slaughter - processing or
shipping - in their state. Here is another false
alternative: "either you must buy a horse who
would otherwise go to a slaughterhouse or you have
no right to object to horse slaughter." False:
anyone who pays taxes has a right to object
to it being used in ways they find morally
unacceptable. It is a government who allows
commercial horse breeders to cause the problem
of starving horses, not P.E.T.A. members.
Therefore government should correct it. Blaming
a vegetarian for the suffering caused by a greedy
race horse industry which they don't support is
as ridiculous as a vegetarian blaming McDonald's
for the fact that China eats horses, tigers,
dogs, etc. etc. You are only responsible for
what you yourself support or do not oppose
politically. Class dismissed.

another real horse owner wrote:

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You've answered my question. You BOB don't donate to any horse rescue ( I take of my own thank you, I don't or want YOUR help) But you whiners thinking you are saving the horses from slaughter need to do some research. Read the numbers or drive around the country and see
with your own eyes. Or don't and
keep jawing stupid comments and
putting down other people because
of race or their buisness choice I feel
sorry for your ignorance. You and
your kind will never give a dime but plenty of mouth. Put up or shut up. Oh yeah I've been in Texas and wor. Maybe you should look in the mirror to see your problem with other races/people. Might help to stop the childish name calling, other people might be more willing to get along with you.

I have thought about what you said about donating to a good cause and since you are a Democratic that wants to volunteer my money to your charity I have come up with a plan I'm going on a road trip and I'm going to shoot every boney malnourished horse I see since people like you can't seem to know when to get rid of em.So there we have a plan hope that suits you Oboma lovin Democratic!

Oh My wrote:

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Name calling and childish rants, as has been your response, does nothing for your argument other than exposé you as a hyper-emotional activist with no connection to logic or reality.
The question is very simple and it deserves a reasonable, fact-based
answer.
Why not slaughter horses?
You are welcome to provide a logical and well-reasoned answer, or you can continue to expose your adolescent female emotions. The
choice is yours.

Ok DrSheldon Cooper from the TV show The big bang theory. You sound like a computer talking lol. I bet you are really fun to be around on a Saturday night Geez.

Bob wrote:

<quoted text>I have thought about what you said about donating to a good cause and since you are a Democratic that wants to volunteer my money to your charity I have come up with a plan I'm going on a road trip and I'm going to shoot every boney malnourished horse I see since people like you can't seem to know when to get rid of em.So there we have a plan hope that suits you Oboma lovin Democratic!

What a weak put down.HaHa
Could you at least ry being a little more creative.

Maybe something like

Go blow yourself you ignorant obnoxious inbred repugnant butt sniffing douche-bag.

These darn amateurs!! HaHa

Bob wrote:

<quoted text>I have thought about what you said about donating to a good cause and since you are a Democratic that wants to volunteer my money to your charity I have come up with a plan I'm going on a road trip and I'm going to shoot every boney malnourished horse I see since people like you can't seem to know when to get rid of em.So there we have a plan hope that suits you Oboma lovin Democratic!

One more question Bob. Do you own horses or are you the couch expert you come off as? Good idea for to keep busy for the rest of your life. But you'd better hook on the tractor with backhoe. You'll be having to bury your kill. But first you'd better check on permits needed and see if you can bury your kills. Don't you worry about what a 100,000 carcasses will do to the water table. Just alittle rot won't hurt anybody. 100,00 horses Bob go to slaughter EVERY year. If you decide not to get off your couch then what? The next 5 years will add 100,000 a year..not counting those evil mustangs that keep breeding. We know you donate Bob so what happens to these horses? The have lifespan of 20 or 30 years..so after that we should be good. We know stopping the evil breeders will fix the problem in the next 30 years. Shoot it did for the excess dogs and cats! There are NO pounds needed in any of our towns..the aren't being killed in these dogpounds. Theses dogs and cats have a lifespan of 10 to15 years..we still are dumping them. NO logic. But hey stop slaughter and your tax money will go for caring for these horses. I think the rate is $3600.00 a horse per year if hay doesn't go up.Now add 30 years per horse. Oh yeah Bob, you'll donate your money rather you want to or not. You already are. The government has hundreds of mustangs in holding...YOU are paying for that now. So when you get slaughter stopped and even get the borders closed figure on more government holding facilities. You're "winning!" Just get your checkbook ready because there is no little horsey fairy that's going carry the excess horses away or their carcasses either. You'll be donating cash instead of jaw action. Spew all the nasty names and such,because none you ding a ling couch experts can't come with a real solution. People loose their homes, jobs and other crisis arises..30 years is a long span for perfect life. Dogs are left at the pounds for the reasons..and their lifespans are much shorter. Who wants 28 year old horse that not halter broke when the owner dies? You people can sure come with the nasty names but no logic. Grow up people eat meat. If they want horse meat who are you to deny them? Take our choices take our freedom. Just alittle Every day. You're winning! I don't think you're gonna like the end result you get. I hope you get all slaughter plants in US closed. I'll have my home-grown meat and you my couch experts can do without or by from some Mexican slaughterhouse. Good luck I wish you get everything you deserve.

Let's all put on our thinking caps and try
this one more time. There is a cause for
unwanted dogs and cats. People don't spay
and neuter them and if it weren't for groups
like the Humane Society it would be far worse.
There is a cause for unwanted horses. 25,000
horses a year are bred for profit by commercial
breeders. They don't want most of them so they
end up dumped on the public or sent to
slaughterhouses. The solution to unwanted dogs
and cats is people being more responsible
for spaying and neutering. The solution to
unwanted horses is to force the breed for greed
industry to be more responsible as it is
apparent they will never do so on their own.
There is a cause and solution for every
problem but it certainly isn't whole sale
slaughter. You don't cure an evil by creating
an even greater one . If that were true
someone could argue that the only solution
to human overpopulation was total nuclear war.

Einstein wrote:

Let's all put on our thinking caps and try
this one more time. There is a cause for
unwanted dogs and cats. People don't spay
and neuter them and if it weren't for groups
like the Humane Society it would be far worse.
There is a cause for unwanted horses. 25,000
horses a year are bred for profit by commercial
breeders. They don't want most of them so they
end up dumped on the public or sent to
slaughterhouses. The solution to unwanted dogs
and cats is people being more responsible
for spaying and neutering. The solution to
unwanted horses is to force the breed for greed
industry to be more responsible as it is
apparent they will never do so on their own.
There is a cause and solution for every
problem but it certainly isn't whole sale
slaughter. You don't cure an evil by creating
an even greater one . If that were true
someone could argue that the only solution
to human overpopulation was total nuclear war.

If the horses aren't your property, they aren't yours to control.

If someone wants to buy horses and slaughter them for profit, what legitimate right do you have to stop them?

Do your emotions somehow trump property rights?

And if you're some sort of teacher, as you claim to be, you are precisely what is wrong with education in this country. Too stupid to acknowledge your own ignorance. Too arrogant to consider anything other than your own emotions.

Oh My wrote:

<quoted text>
If the horses aren't your property, they aren't yours to control.
If someone wants to buy horses and slaughter them for profit, what legitimate right do you have to stop them?
Do your emotions somehow trump property rights?
And if you're some sort of teacher, as you claim to be, you are precisely what is wrong with education in this country. Too stupid to acknowledge your own ignorance. Too arrogant to consider anything other than your own emotions.

If horse slaughter is such a good idea, why did the states that had facilities close them down and ban horse slaughter. They may not be my property but I have a say in where my tax dollars go and I damn sure don't want it spent on inspectors for horse slaughter, and it is already a proven fact that these companies paid no taxes and hired Hispanic workers. Where is there a benifit in that? Tell me about the beef industry. Do they want old, sick, downer cattle to butcher? Missouri does not need the blackeye that horse slaughter would give the state!

wondering wrote:

<quoted text>If horse slaughter is such a good idea, why did the states that had facilities close them down and ban horse slaughter. They may not be my property but I have a say in where my tax dollars go and I damn sure don't want it spent on inspectors for horse slaughter, and it is already a proven fact that these companies paid no taxes and hired Hispanic workers. Where is there a benifit in that? Tell me about the beef industry. Do they want old, sick, downer cattle to butcher? Missouri does not need the blackeye that horse slaughter would give the state!

Have you stood up for your tax dollars going to fund abortion clinics or are you more concerned with animal murder?

wondering wrote:

<quoted text>If horse slaughter is such a good idea, why did the states that had facilities close them down and ban horse slaughter. They may not be my property but I have a say in where my tax dollars go and I damn sure don't want it spent on inspectors for horse slaughter, and it is already a proven fact that these companies paid no taxes and hired Hispanic workers. Where is there a benifit in that? Tell me about the beef industry. Do they want old, sick, downer cattle to butcher? Missouri does not need the blackeye that horse slaughter would give the state!

I agree that inspection expenses should be borne by the consumer.

I've read all the way through this thread, and not once has anyone offered up any "proven facts" about tax evasion or any other crimes. The only support offered for your claims is sourced from activist blogs.

The emotional rants found in activist blogs are not a legitimate source of factual information.

GET REAL wrote:

<quoted text> Have you stood up for your tax dollars going to fund abortion clinics or are you more concerned with animal murder?

This forum is about horse slaughter, if you want to discuss abortion, start another forum!

wondering wrote:

<quoted text>This forum is about horse slaughter, if you want to discuss abortion, start another forum!

I am aware of the topix, I guess I just dont understand people getting so worked up over animal rights when there are so many REAL problems in this country

I hope Rockville enjoys the scream of horses as they are eviscerates alive. Also they may enjoy the smells and blood of horse slaughter
May God forgive you all

leelee wrote:

I hope Rockville enjoys the scream of horses as they are eviscerates alive. Also they may enjoy the smells and blood of horse slaughter
May God forgive you all

I can't seem to find it anywhere in the bible about horse slaughter being a sin. Why are horses so different than cows, chickens, rabbits, ducks, turkeys, and all the other animals that are slaughtered. If there is a market for the horse meat they will survive if not they will close. Let the consumer decide.

Leviticus 11:4 says eating animals like the camel with a single
hoof is unclean. Look it up. What names are we going by today,
Sue Wallis ? Public money would be used for a private
investment scheme in horse slaughter plant. It doesn't matter
whether the investors would pay the U.S.D.A. inspector,
taxpayers object to their money enabling horse slaughter for
human consumption. It isn't the loss of money they are worried
about. It's the loss of claiming to be civilized once you
start eating horses, cats, dogs, etc. "If there is no market
for it, it will fail"? Great, give Sue Wallis your investment
money and then watch The Titanic sink. What's to lose but
your money and your claim to being civilized ?

Leviticus wrote:

Leviticus 11:4 says eating animals like the camel with a single
hoof is unclean. Look it up. What names are we going by today,
Sue Wallis ? Public money would be used for a private
investment scheme in horse slaughter plant. It doesn't matter
whether the investors would pay the U.S.D.A. inspector,
taxpayers object to their money enabling horse slaughter for
human consumption. It isn't the loss of money they are worried
about. It's the loss of claiming to be civilized once you
start eating horses, cats, dogs, etc. "If there is no market
for it, it will fail"? Great, give Sue Wallis your investment
money and then watch The Titanic sink. What's to lose but
your money and your claim to being civilized ?

If you read the whole verse we should not eat pigs or rabbits either, verses 9-12 say not to eat catfish, lobsters, crabs, shrimp, mussels, clams, oysters, squid, octopi, etc. As far as taxpayers objecting I think there are worst things there money is being spent on.

Ithink the people that want horse slaughter should have been aborted!

Leviticus wrote:

Leviticus 11:4 says eating animals like the camel with a single
hoof is unclean. Look it up. What names are we going by today,
Sue Wallis ? Public money would be used for a private
investment scheme in horse slaughter plant. It doesn't matter
whether the investors would pay the U.S.D.A. inspector,
taxpayers object to their money enabling horse slaughter for
human consumption. It isn't the loss of money they are worried
about. It's the loss of claiming to be civilized once you
start eating horses, cats, dogs, etc. "If there is no market
for it, it will fail"? Great, give Sue Wallis your investment
money and then watch The Titanic sink. What's to lose but
your money and your claim to being civilized ?

As far as your claim to not being civilized; Japan, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, and many more consume horse meat. Last time I checked those were all civilized countries.