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Oct 28, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

Governor, administration, angers some Kentuckians over tree designation

Full story: WKYT-TV Lexington

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Citzen

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Governor must be taking lessons from the big Democrat up in Washington, pissing everybody off!!!
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Not everybody, just the Christians. Now you know how people of other faiths feel about the "Christmas Tree" designation and all the religious symbols our government condones. Do you like it?
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religious freedom wrote:
Not everybody, just the Christians. Now you know how people of other faiths feel about the "Christmas Tree" designation and all the religious symbols our government condones. Do you like it?
Why don't you find something else to cry about. Christians could care less what you support. If you want to have happy Friday IT'S YOUR CHOICE!!!! We don't care, but we also don't try to force you to call it "Friday" instead of "Happy Friday"
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Why don't you find something else to cry about. Christians could care less what you support. If you want to have happy Friday IT'S YOUR CHOICE!!!! We don't care, but we also don't try to force you to call it "Friday" instead of "Happy Friday"
Uh, we're not crying, Govenor Beshear did the right thing. Now, it's the Christians that are crying because they liked their special treatment they've been receiving for years. Sorry, but it's over!
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religious freedom wrote:
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Uh, we're not crying, Govenor Beshear did the right thing. Now, it's the Christians that are crying because they liked their special treatment they've been receiving for years. Sorry, but it's over!
You are crying about it....How about we take down the "Gay Pride" signs down in downtown Lexington each year. OHHH but wait......you don't hear us screaming about that do ya? Oh and by the way, it's not over and never will be! So maybe you should get used to that!

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Uh, we're not crying, Govenor Beshear did the right thing. Now, it's the Christians that are crying because they liked their special treatment they've been receiving for years. Sorry, but it's over!
impressive how gleefully you wallow in your ignorance and bigotry - something you consider a victory ?

you must be a liberal -
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The holiday being celebrated December 25th each year when the tree in question is displayed is Christmas. The holiday celebrates the birth of Christ.

If you do not want to celebrate that holiday, that is your right. But, it is NOT your right to interfere with those who do wish to participate in the holiday. It is also not your right to change the intent of the Christmas, the designation of 'what' is being commemorated, or alter the method used to celebrate.

I would never dream of demanding that the Jewish faith abandon their religious holidays throughout the year or hide the items placed on display during that year - and you won't hear me whining about them either.

Hopefully it won't come to an alteration of the 4th of July holiday being changed or dropped altogether because so many of the population of the U. S. do NOT celebrate, recognize, or otherwise care about the Independence of America.

Veteran's Day could be compromised now that so much of the population does not agree with the wars that so many veterans gave their lives for our country.

The previous two holidays are most often celebrated with the display of our flag. Certainly that is a 'decoration' that many in America are not fond of, particularly respectful to, or willing to embrace. So will it soon be 'goodbye to Old Glory'?

Thanksgiving probably doesn't mean a great deal to a large portion of our population because they are not inclined to care one way or the other about how or why the pilgrims held their feast and celebration. Can the turkey be on its way out?

It is difficult to understand why - when America is continually being reminded that we must open our shores, our borders, out pocketbooks, our jobs, our policies, and our patience to so many individuals from other countries who arrive each embracing their own beliefs - we are being forced give up so many of our own freedoms, and so often at the insistence not of the 'newly arrived population', but instead by native-born Americans with generations of ancestors.

No one is making anyone say 'Merry Christmas', display a Christmas tree in their own home, attend church on Christmas Eve, buy anyone a present, or in other way 'participate' in the celebration of the birth of Christ, but Christmas is going to be Christmas regardless of what you make Christians call it. It seems very un-American for Christians to have to hide their beliefs to ensure that non-believers are not tempted to even think about what the Christmas Tree and the Nativity Scene depicts.

Why do the actions of Christians at Christmas bother you so? What gives you the right to change a belief that you don't endorse in the first place? Just turn a blind eye and mind your own business and your own beliefs.

Oh yes, and Merry Christmas to one and all.
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Merry Christmas!!!!
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Merry Christmas!!!!
A Christmas TREE, NOT HOLIDAY TREE!! OMG WHAT NEXT? OH and Merry CHristmas to U Too!!
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I'd say the respondants on here are the real bigots. They demand that everyone call it a "Christmas Tree" even if they don't believe in Christ. Isn't that bigotry? It sure is in my book! So, you so called Christians have labeled me as a liberal, bigot and a non-believer without any knowledge of what I believe. Really nice for a supposed bunch of holy rollers!

Judi - Most of the holidays you mention have nothing to do with religion and would not be affected by the constitutional separation of church and state. So really, your entire rant/post is irrelevant and off topic.

The point you should be addressing is that the Constitution forbids recognizing a specific religion by the government and to have a "Christmas Tree" violates that section of the law as determined by the Supreme Court in various cases.
POTHEAD MAXXXIMUS

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Its called separation of church and state, get over it not everyone is a jesus freak. Thats life.

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religious freedom wrote:
So, you so called Christians have labeled me as a liberal, bigot and a non-believer without any knowledge of what I believe.
well, if you'd stop leaving a trail of clues like a cow with scours maybe there'd be no reason to apply labels -

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POTHEAD MAXXXIMUS wrote:
Its called separation of church and state, get over it not everyone is a jesus freak. Thats life.
you yo-yos don't even know what the phrase "separation of church and state" actually means - and, if you care, why not point out exactly where it's mentioned in the constitution -
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furnandeux wrote:
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you yo-yos don't even know what the phrase "separation of church and state" actually means - and, if you care, why not point out exactly where it's mentioned in the constitution -
1st amendment to the U.S.constitution.hows that?
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BTW,they threw freedom of speech in there also,yo-yo.suggest you take a evening and read it.

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<quoted text>1st amendment to the U.S.constitution.hows that?
well, hard as i look, i cannot see the words - hows that ?
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well, hard as i look, i cannot see the words - hows that ?
then you must be an idiot.hows that?

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<quoted text>then you must be an idiot.hows that?
well, genius - suppose you go ahead and quote the words yourself - and be sure to let us know where you're reading it -
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Every year, new efforts are made to remove Christ from "Christ"mas as much as possible. The governor's move is just another example of that. The whole reason why we even have the "holiday" season to begin with is because of the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ who, 30-some years later, was beaten, tortured, nailed to a cross to die for OUR sins, not his...only to be risen 3 days later...just like our souls can be saved from death if we repent and serve. People can try their best, but the fact is, the reason we have anything to celebrate at all is because of the love shown by Jesus Christ. Oh and btw...where do you think the term "holiday" comes from? It also is a religous term for Holy Day. Guess well stop using that term too some day.
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