Stop killing the bird of the Lord

Stop Dove Hunting
A bird of Love and Peace

Take a look at the eyes and kindness of that bird
Why would any one want to kill them
They eat tons of insects a year
They are not birds of prey they peck their food where other birds tear their food
Their beauty and kindness are beyond words
How many times are they mention in the Bible
Just think before you shoot

Stop the slaughter of unwanted horses!

Stop the slaughter of cows for beef and leather products!

Stop the animal testing...bunnies are about a peaceful as they come!

Stop the slaughter of pigs!

Don't stop the hunting of deer, because if we do not "Harvest " they will grow full of disease, and be hit by cars, as well as maybe a few vehicle deaths because of the over run population...but only shoot what you eat!

Stop the people that fight Pit Bulls!

Stop the people that fight chickens!

Stop the people that wear fur!

But most of all stop to think about the little children that suffer at the hands of their trusted parents...the victems of abuse so horrid that taking out a few doves does not even compare to...WWJD?

What Would Jesus Do
How about what would Jesus want us to do
Thanks for the help
Just mustard seed
May be it will catch on

No Hunting wrote:

What Would Jesus Do
How about what would Jesus want us to do
Thanks for the help
Just mustard seed
May be it will catch on

I really do appreciate your love for something that needs a voice thank you.

notahillbilly wrote:

<quoted text> I really do appreciate your love for something that needs a voice thank you.

Then there was Two
Who knows we might get this done

nice forum topix

The posts I had on the Stay Away thread......I am not in favor of killing or in favor of non-killing. I have never really sat down to ponder such a theory of the dove being the symbol of spirit. You have sparked my interest and I will research it thoroughly this week, to my satisfaction, thus maybe not suitable to everyone else. Yes, my family has a long line of hunters and I also hunt. Bought my son a shotgun for Christmas last year and I have been teaching him the safety issues of having a gun. He went on his first dove hunt last year and is awaiting squirrel season with cooler weather. We eat what we shoot and give back the part that we do not eat to the coyotes. And, yes I rely on nature's food to feed my son and myself. It goes on the freezer next to what meat the grocery has on reduce sale.
Your opinion on the sacred image of the dove--I do not look down on. What I find, I will post. You know me by now, I only get knee deep in posts that I really find interesting and can find answers for through research and reading. Not hear-say but documented facts please.....have a great Sunday. Now, I have to iron my dress for church tomorrow and press my sons pants.

In the New Testament the dove is represented as the Holy Spirit when the dove descended onto Jesus after He was baptized.(Matthew 3:16)

A white dove is generally a sign of peace in Christianity and Judaism. This symbolism comes from the Old Testament when after the flood, Noah released a dove in order to find dry land. When the dove finally found an olive tree, it came back with an olive branch it its beak, which indicated that the waters were abating. Thus implicating that God had withdrawn His wrath and was at peace with mankind again.(Genesis 8:11)

The dove is closely associated with the lamb in gentleness and purity. The dove was the substitute sacrifice if a man (Leviticus 5:7) or woman (Leviticus 12:8) could not acquire a lamb to offer as a trespass offering. Jesus, the lamb of God, offered himself as the sacrifice for our sins, much like the lamb and dove would be offered for man's sin.

Here is the scripture reaing where someone referenced to a dove as the spirit of the Lord...
After Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, the heavens opened up and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in the form of a dove. All four gospels record this special event. The dove which symbolizes an animal of temporal atonement for man's sin, lighted upon The Greatest Sacrifice, Jesus Christ who fulfilled the eternal sacrifice of man's sin

The Dove, when mentioned, is mostly thought of as a white bird with a gentle nature. The symbolism of a white dove (though most "white doves" are actually white homing pigeons), has been used for peace, purity, and innocent love.

Haven't found any reference about keeping the bird holy. Closest thing is the scriptures about unclean animals not being eaten...these being cloven and uncloven hoofed animals. Even doves were sacrificed as offerings when a lamb was not available.

This was just a simple late night search...I shall continue.....I wonder if there were not a dove hunting season, would the dove population increase and cause problems within the food chain...there is a bag limit and if the population were in danger of diminishing, the limit would be lowered or altered as it is each season with deer hunting.

Mourning doves are by all accounts gentle, harmless birds. They are monogamous creatures who raise their young as a team, a quality that one might expect would garner them praise in these family-focused times. The birds certainly made an impression 100 years ago when the citizens of Michigan decided to protect these popular backyard visitors: In 1905, the state officially designated them "songbirds"—as opposed to game birds—and banned their hunting. More than 90 years later, the state's House of Representatives named the mourning dove Michigan's state bird of peace.

Studies estimating the "unretrieved loss" of mourning doves have found that more than 20% are not retrieved by hunters in a typical season. One 1977 report by G.H. Haas and published in the Wildlife Society Bulletin found that 21–47% of doves shot were unretrieved.

Though some of the birds left unretrieved are killed outright and simply left to rot, an unknown percentage may live for some time and die slowly from their wounds. Haas, for example followed 12 "flying cripples" (doves shot, apparently wounded, but continuing to fly for some distance) and found that five were dead and four flew away injured; he was not able to find the remaining three. This same author also found that no attempt was made to retrieve approximately 60% of the fallen doves and that retrieval attempts were almost never made for "flying cripples."

The birds droping fertlizer for the fields
no harm good but read below

Poisoning the Environment

Because doves are relatively difficult to hit, hunters use an inordinate amount of toxic lead shot, which is still legal for dove hunting in many areas, even though it has been prohibited in waterfowl hunting since 1991. A joint U.S. Geological Service-U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service study showed that hunters spent between five and eight shots per every bird hit. That lead was left behind to contaminate the environment, often farm fields. Similarly, a 2002 USFWS report summarized a recent study in which 728 hunters deposited 1,086,275 pellets per hectare of lead shot in four days of mourning dove hunting.

All that lead shot left in the field—and in the bodies of unretrieved doves—poses a real threat of poisoning when ingested by other wildlife feeding either on seeds and grains in the same field, or on the dove carcasses. Doves who survive the hunting season are themselves known to ingest spent lead shot while foraging, as found in a USGS-USFWS report.

Hey proud Yank, I have cleaned the birds for an entire field of hunters before. They dropped them off and I cleaned them while they hunted. Not one bird went into an unclaimed pile. I also hate to see animals killed just for the joy of the hunt. Every rabbit, squirrel or deer I have ever shot was skinned and eaten as a meal.

Sorry, I did not get to any other research to compile with what I discovered early this morning.

Please help get this killing stopped

Speak up for The birds of peace and love

They do you no harm
Should not be used for target practice

Should they suffer so man may eat
Are have fun

Such a kind and beautiful bird
Who thinks man is his freind
Take a look at one as it dies
Are as the hunter pulls its head off

plainoldbored wrote:

In the New Testament the dove is represented as the Holy Spirit when the dove descended onto Jesus after He was baptized.(Matthew 3:16)
A white dove is generally a sign of peace in Christianity and Judaism. This symbolism comes from the Old Testament when after the flood, Noah released a dove in order to find dry land. When the dove finally found an olive tree, it came back with an olive branch it its beak, which indicated that the waters were abating. Thus implicating that God had withdrawn His wrath and was at peace with mankind again.(Genesis 8:11)
The dove is closely associated with the lamb in gentleness and purity. The dove was the substitute sacrifice if a man (Leviticus 5:7) or woman (Leviticus 12:8) could not acquire a lamb to offer as a trespass offering. Jesus, the lamb of God, offered himself as the sacrifice for our sins, much like the lamb and dove would be offered for man's sin.
Here is the scripture reaing where someone referenced to a dove as the spirit of the Lord...
After Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, the heavens opened up and the Holy Spirit descended on Him in the form of a dove. All four gospels record this special event. The dove which symbolizes an animal of temporal atonement for man's sin, lighted upon The Greatest Sacrifice, Jesus Christ who fulfilled the eternal sacrifice of man's sin
The Dove, when mentioned, is mostly thought of as a white bird with a gentle nature. The symbolism of a white dove (though most "white doves" are actually white homing pigeons), has been used for peace, purity, and innocent love.
Haven't found any reference about keeping the bird holy. Closest thing is the scriptures about unclean animals not being eaten...these being cloven and uncloven hoofed animals. Even doves were sacrificed as offerings when a lamb was not available.
This was just a simple late night search...I shall continue.....I wonder if there were not a dove hunting season, would the dove population increase and cause problems within the food chain...there is a bag limit and if the population were in danger of diminishing, the limit would be lowered or altered as it is each season with deer hunting.

Now see when someone put it like this you can stand to read it. Great job trying to teach us a few things. The part about unclean, didn't God apear to Saw on the road to Demaskus to kill the christens and tell tell him nothing he had made was unclean. Something about lowering a table cloth with all animals on it even pigs.

proud yank wrote:

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I may lose a friend or two here... but I hunt and there are a few things I have to say.
I went to a dove hunt once and did not like what I saw. A mound of dead birds and nobody with the will to clean and eat them.
I do not know if doves cause harm to the fields, farmers or livestock with their droppings...I never asked anyone.
I eat what I shoot, clean my plate, never waste food, especially if was living at one time, even if I dislike it, unless it is spoiled or something, I ensure I eat it.
I am one of those folks that get a little uneasy when I see people wasting food at buffets...
I do understand hunters are part of the balance of nature.
If deer were not so hard to keep and pen up and their meat had more fats and not so tough, we would raise and devour them like we do cows.
Killing doves and leaving them is like killing a majestic elephant just for it's tusk...a legal practice long gone.

There are some hunters that do stupid stuff. Things like that just hurt the rest of us. I to have seen those that shoot as many as they just to say they did. I have had more birds gien to me than I've killed myself. We mostly put them in a pile together and clean them together. The next day we will have a big cook out together.

That’s what it is all about a big party

Target shoot

Have fun killing

Live skeet

Dove’s pair just like us to feed and care for their young

They have feeling, carryings, and a family

Why do we as people want to destroy families of birds?
Who destroy nothing
Eat the droppings of the field
And insects that destroy our crops
Do nothing but good for us
What do we do for them?

A bird of the Lord

Last season, 118,000 Tennessee dove hunters made 609,000 trips and killed approximately 3 million doves, based on estimations given by Tim White, small-game coordinator for the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency (TWRA). That comes to slightly more than five trips per hunter and an average harvest of slightly less than five birds per trip.

3 Million birds killed last year
In the State of tennessee alone

Last season, 118,000 Tennessee dove hunters made 609,000 trips and killed approximately 3 million doves, based on estimations given by Tim White, small-game coordinator for the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency (TWRA). That comes to slightly more than five trips per hunter and an average harvest of slightly less than five birds per trip.

3 Million Doves in the state of Tennessee alone