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Our Commissioners are at it again. I read in the paper where they are developing a board to oversee monies and other business pertaining to fire departments and rescue squads. They only question I have is how do they think it will be fair when you have 14 representatives from the fire departments and only 3 from the rescue squads. I can already see the arguments coming. Something comes to a vote and it ends up being 14 to 4. 14 in the fire departments favor and maybe 4 in the rescue squads, 3 rescue and 1 EMS. All I can see is more fuss. How about giving the fire departments all the rescue equipment, including the ambulance service, and let them have at it. In the past they wanted the rescue part but not the responsibility of the running the ambulance service that comes with it. Either give it all to the fire departments or to the rescue squads.
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you are so lost on this its not funny, this becomes rescue and ems not fire depts, fire does light rescue courter gets the rescue tax for ems fire depts does not have a vote on this, this was all tommy courter and his gread wanting the rescue tax. and as always he got his way.
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Jun 3, 2009
 
why do you want to give all this stuff to the fire department? does the firemen get the technical training that the rescuers get?
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Kinyo wrote:
why do you want to give all this stuff to the fire department? does the firemen get the technical training that the rescuers get?
Please "Kinyo" you don't have a clue! If all three Rescue Depts were equal , this would not be talked about! But (ONE) falls short , WAY short. Want call any names , but if you know what you are talking about you will know who it is !Caldwell County is way passed 3 Rescue Squads !
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I will call it out, Lenoir Rescue sends untrained people to rescue in swift water with only a life jacket
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Jun 3, 2009
 
Happy Fire Peoples wrote:
<quoted text>Please "Kinyo" you don't have a clue! If all three Rescue Depts were equal , this would not be talked about! But (ONE) falls short , WAY short. Want call any names , but if you know what you are talking about you will know who it is !Caldwell County is way passed 3 Rescue Squads !
youre right i dont know alot about it because it has been years since i was in the fire department in caldwell county but my question was simply stated does the fire departments get the technical training that the rescue squads get i dont know much about the rescue squads but i do know that they have a purpose or they wouldnt be here to begin with
and Kinyo is what my nick name is not something made up
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youre right i dont know alot about it because it has been years since i was in the fire department in caldwell county but my question was simply stated does the fire departments get the technical training that the rescue squads get i dont know much about the rescue squads but i do know that they have a purpose or they wouldnt be here to begin with
and Kinyo is what my nick name is not something made up
To answer you ques, and not to be smart about it, but yes the fire dept get the same training plus fire training every year, they have double there training to pick up the slack of the rescue squad, several years one rescue squad that was running calls in there districts, might I mention they was multiple fire dept complaining not just one, so this tells you that it was not personal between two depts. when this rescue squad would arrive on the scene there skills was not up to par, the fire dept kept complain about them, nothing was being done about the hap hazard job they were performing, the fire depts. Decided to take the training buy rescue tools, and start doing the job them selves, now Lenoir rescue not Lenoir fire don’t get these two confused,(Lenoir fire does a great job), has been replaced, the only bad part it has sank Lovelady and Hudson with them, however Hudson rescue combined with Hudson fire about 10 years ago which will not affect them, but who knows what will happen with Lovelady, which I might add does a great job also, but what has happen all started with poor performance and the lack of leadership, that has been building for years, the other down fall is ems will end up with the rescue tax, little money if any will float down to the fire dept's and the new rescue board or not, ems will have control over this, my ques is if the rescue dissolves in to one, transport unit, who will back up the ems when they are tied up, its not like the calls only happen one at a time, multiple calls come in at once, who will do the standbys at the football games and other events this is what I would like to know?
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All that stuff needs to fall under the same umbrella. There is no need to have 17 separate agencies in a county this size. Can you imagine if a major disaster hit this area and you have 17 guys claiming to be in charge?
They all serve an important function but there is no reason that they can not have some structure and unity. We ought to have the "Caldwell County Fire, Rescue and EMS Agency" with branches at the current fire department and rescue squad facilities in each community. There should be one guy responsible and accountable for all that stuff.
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To answer you ques, and not to be smart about it, but yes the fire dept get the same training plus fire training every year, they have double there training to pick up the slack of the rescue squad, several years one rescue squad that was running calls in there districts, might I mention they was multiple fire dept complaining not just one, so this tells you that it was not personal between two depts. when this rescue squad would arrive on the scene there skills was not up to par, the fire dept kept complain about them, nothing was being done about the hap hazard job they were performing, the fire depts. Decided to take the training buy rescue tools, and start doing the job them selves, now Lenoir rescue not Lenoir fire don’t get these two confused,(Lenoir fire does a great job), has been replaced, the only bad part it has sank Lovelady and Hudson with them, however Hudson rescue combined with Hudson fire about 10 years ago which will not affect them, but who knows what will happen with Lovelady, which I might add does a great job also, but what has happen all started with poor performance and the lack of leadership, that has been building for years, the other down fall is ems will end up with the rescue tax, little money if any will float down to the fire dept's and the new rescue board or not, ems will have control over this, my ques is if the rescue dissolves in to one, transport unit, who will back up the ems when they are tied up, its not like the calls only happen one at a time, multiple calls come in at once, who will do the standbys at the football games and other events this is what I would like to know?
I have an idea. Get rid of Courtner and hire someone from out of county that will not be biased. The EMS is already funded throught the normal budget offered by the county. Allow the fire and rescue money be in a separate line item on the budget away from the EMS. If not, then dissolve EMS being county controlled and let private medical services do the job like larger cities do. That way the tax payers don't have to worry about the funding anymore.
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I have an idea. Get rid of Courtner and hire someone from out of county that will not be biased. The EMS is already funded throught the normal budget offered by the county. Allow the fire and rescue money be in a separate line item on the budget away from the EMS. If not, then dissolve EMS being county controlled and let private medical services do the job like larger cities do. That way the tax payers don't have to worry about the funding anymore.
i like your idea, the poster before you must be a courter boy.
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Fire Rescue EMS wrote:
All that stuff needs to fall under the same umbrella. There is no need to have 17 separate agencies in a county this size. Can you imagine if a major disaster hit this area and you have 17 guys claiming to be in charge?
They all serve an important function but there is no reason that they can not have some structure and unity. We ought to have the "Caldwell County Fire, Rescue and EMS Agency" with branches at the current fire department and rescue squad facilities in each community. There should be one guy responsible and accountable for all that stuff.
please tell me that you are not with fire rescue or ems, you stated 17 guys trying to be in charge, if you have any intelligence, or training what so ever you have heard of the incident command system, do you think 9/11 at the world trade center was just one agency, response came from all over the USA. get into a class somewhere, some how and educate yourself.
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I will call it out, Lenoir Rescue sends untrained people to rescue in swift water with only a life jacket
WE have a Winner !!!!!! This has been going on for YEARS !!! Here's a thought, One Rescue for Caldwell County.
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To answer you ques, and not to be smart about it, but yes the fire dept get the same training plus fire training every year, they have double there training to pick up the slack of the rescue squad, several years one rescue squad that was running calls in there districts, might I mention they was multiple fire dept complaining not just one, so this tells you that it was not personal between two depts. when this rescue squad would arrive on the scene there skills was not up to par, the fire dept kept complain about them, nothing was being done about the hap hazard job they were performing, the fire depts. Decided to take the training buy rescue tools, and start doing the job them selves, now Lenoir rescue not Lenoir fire don’t get these two confused,(Lenoir fire does a great job), has been replaced, the only bad part it has sank Lovelady and Hudson with them, however Hudson rescue combined with Hudson fire about 10 years ago which will not affect them, but who knows what will happen with Lovelady, which I might add does a great job also, but what has happen all started with poor performance and the lack of leadership, that has been building for years, the other down fall is ems will end up with the rescue tax, little money if any will float down to the fire dept's and the new rescue board or not, ems will have control over this, my ques is if the rescue dissolves in to one, transport unit, who will back up the ems when they are tied up, its not like the calls only happen one at a time, multiple calls come in at once, who will do the standbys at the football games and other events this is what I would like to know?
weel nc fire it looks like the fire dept is going to do stand bys at whatever the events might be i bet they didnt want to do that but it may be good for them to get an ambulance and take on the stand bys and things like that
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Yep wrote:
I will call it out, Lenoir Rescue sends untrained people to rescue in swift water with only a life jacket
is this rescue squad the only one that sends "untrained" people to calls
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Kinyo wrote:
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is this rescue squad the only one that sends "untrained" people to calls
All the dealings with Hudson & Lovelady have been great.Wish I could say the same about LENOIR RESCUE. It's been down hill ever since Tony Lambert came there ! And he's been gone along time !
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<quoted text> All the dealings with Hudson & Lovelady have been great.Wish I could say the same about LENOIR RESCUE. It's been down hill ever since Tony Lambert came there ! And he's been gone along time !
i dont think i know this guy but if hes been gone for a long while whats the problem
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Kinyo wrote:
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i dont think i know this guy but if hes been gone for a long while whats the problem
They never restructured and got back to modern day standards . Tony is very big guy.If you had been around Caldwell & knew anything about Fire/Rescue , you would have heard of him.
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Happy Fire Peoples wrote:
<quoted text> They never restructured and got back to modern day standards . Tony is very big guy.If you had been around Caldwell & knew anything about Fire/Rescue , you would have heard of him.
He was also a scammer and BS artist, he left a lot of damage in his wake. I was always amazed at how impressed he was with himself. It was all about how many times he could be mentioned in the paper or at the meetings. Sad part is, he could be a decent human being if he wasn't such a scammer
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emt wrote:
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He was also a scammer and BS artist, he left a lot of damage in his wake. I was always amazed at how impressed he was with himself. It was all about how many times he could be mentioned in the paper or at the meetings. Sad part is, he could be a decent human being if he wasn't such a scammer
I can see you know him!!!
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Happy Fire Peoples wrote:
<quoted text> They never restructured and got back to modern day standards . Tony is very big guy.If you had been around Caldwell & knew anything about Fire/Rescue , you would have heard of him.
like i said i was in the fire dept many years ago and havent really kept up eith the things going on these days until i found out about all this thats going on now and i figured i would check this topix thing out and see what the scoop was and you said a very big guy do you mean size or do you mean he was well known

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