Obama administration blocks Texas voter ID law

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Mar 12, 2012
 
(Reuters)- The Obama administration on Monday blocked a new law in Texas requiring voters to show photo identification before they can cast a ballot, citing a concern that it could harm Hispanic voters who lacked such documents.

I always give the poll workers my state issued ID. Is the law different here?
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Mar 12, 2012
 
It is unconstitutional to require a citizen to show ID at the voting precinct. If you are showing your ID that is entirely voluntary. If they are requiring you to show ID I would report that to the state.

The law doesn't just affect Hispanic voters, it also affects young, poor, and elderly people who may have no reason to carry identification- in most cases a drivers license. I personally think it is odd that people don't carry ID, but I don't think requiring ID is the correct way to go either.

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Mar 12, 2012
 
Apparently there are states that require ID to vote but because Texas has had fruad and voting issues in the past the Feds must review all voter laws before they are passed and they decided to block the law
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Mar 12, 2012
 
Many states require proof of living in the US, but most of the states that require a photo ID are being fought against. I should have stated that it is a photo ID that is viewed as unconstitutional. Some states will accept voter registration cards, credit cards, utility bills, bank statements, really anything that has your name and maybe an address, or proof of residence.

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I refuse to show my ID this next election. $100 says they won't let me vote.

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Mar 26, 2012
 
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I refuse to show my ID this next election.$100 says they won't let me vote.
You'll be put in jail for disturbing the peace!

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You'll be put in jail for disturbing the peace!
most likely, right? it's not my fault i feel that my rights are being infringed upon. i shouldn't have to show ID to vote... Or at least that's how it works for some. Unfortunately, not for me and most Americans :(

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Mar 26, 2012
 
Then again, the nice ladies at the voting place know me...so i'm sure it wouldn't go over like i want it to anyways lol
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Apr 9, 2012
 
A journalist went to a Washington DC polling place and said he was Eric Holder and was given the DOJ heads ballot for the primary. Maybe voter ID laws aren't a bad idea after all

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/...

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A journalist went to a Washington DC polling place and said he was Eric Holder and was given the DOJ heads ballot for the primary. Maybe voter ID laws aren't a bad idea after all
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/...
Saw that but it does not matter to them until they lose the vote then they'll be all over ID's, just like when FL had the problem with the punch cards, and the vote did not go the way of the vote.

If the Dem's allow the ID to be set in the states, then Barry will lose as will most democrats heading for election.

Its the only way the Democrats can get a vote is if it's a dishonest one, made by an illegle.
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Apr 10, 2012
 
Conservatives and liberals don't seem to agree about much, and they might not agree about recent studies linking conservatism to low intelligence and "low-effort" thinking.

As reported in February, a study published in the journal "Psychological Science" showed that children who score low on intelligence tests gravitate toward socially conservative political views in adulthood--perhaps because conservative ideologies stress "structure and order" that make it easier to understand a complicated world.

Ouch.

And now there's the new study linking conservative ideologies to "low-effort" thinking.

"People endorse conservative ideology more when they have to give a first or fast response," the study's lead author, University of Arkansas psychologist Dr. Scott Eidelman, said in a written statement released by the university.

Does the finding suggest that conservatives are lazy thinkers?

"Not quite," Dr. Eidelman told MBROOKS in an email. "Our research shows that low-effort thought promotes political conservatism, not that political conservatives use low-effort thinking."

For the study, a team of psychologists led by Dr. Eidelman asked people about their political viewpoints in a bar and in a laboratory setting.

Bar patrons were asked about social issues before blowing into a Breathalyzer. As it turned out, the political viewpoints of patrons with high blood alcohol levels were more likely to be conservative than were those of patrons whose blood alcohol levels were low.

But it wasn't just the alcohol talking, according to the statement. When the researchers conducted similar interviews in the lab, they found that people who were asked to evaluate political ideas quickly or while distracted were more likely to express conservative viewpoints.

"Keeping people from thinking too much...or just asking them to deliberate or consider information in a cursory manner can impact people's political attitudes, and in a way that consistently promotes political conservatism," Dr. Eidelman said in the email.

The study was published online in the journal "Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin."
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sss JOHN HAMM wrote:
Conservatives and liberals don't seem to agree about much, and they might not agree about recent studies linking conservatism to low intelligence and "low-effort" thinking.
As reported in February, a study published in the journal "Psychological Science" showed that children who score low on intelligence tests gravitate toward socially conservative political views in adulthood--perhaps because conservative ideologies stress "structure and order" that make it easier to understand a complicated world.
Ouch.
And now there's the new study linking conservative ideologies to "low-effort" thinking.
"People endorse conservative ideology more when they have to give a first or fast response," the study's lead author, University of Arkansas psychologist Dr. Scott Eidelman, said in a written statement released by the university.
Does the finding suggest that conservatives are lazy thinkers?
"Not quite," Dr. Eidelman told MBROOKS in an email. "Our research shows that low-effort thought promotes political conservatism, not that political conservatives use low-effort thinking."
For the study, a team of psychologists led by Dr. Eidelman asked people about their political viewpoints in a bar and in a laboratory setting.
Bar patrons were asked about social issues before blowing into a Breathalyzer. As it turned out, the political viewpoints of patrons with high blood alcohol levels were more likely to be conservative than were those of patrons whose blood alcohol levels were low.
But it wasn't just the alcohol talking, according to the statement. When the researchers conducted similar interviews in the lab, they found that people who were asked to evaluate political ideas quickly or while distracted were more likely to express conservative viewpoints.
"Keeping people from thinking too much...or just asking them to deliberate or consider information in a cursory manner can impact people's political attitudes, and in a way that consistently promotes political conservatism," Dr. Eidelman said in the email.
The study was published online in the journal "Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin."
In typical liberal fashion rather than comment on the debate at hand you attempt to make fun of those that don't agree with you politically

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sss JOHN HAMM wrote:
Conservatives and liberals don't seem to agree about much, and they might not agree about recent studies linking conservatism to low intelligence and "low-effort" thinking.
As reported in February, a study published in the journal "Psychological Science" showed that children who score low on intelligence tests gravitate toward socially conservative political views in adulthood--perhaps because conservative ideologies stress "structure and order" that make it easier to understand a complicated world.
Ouch.
And now there's the new study linking conservative ideologies to "low-effort" thinking.
"People endorse conservative ideology more when they have to give a first or fast response," the study's lead author, University of Arkansas psychologist Dr. Scott Eidelman, said in a written statement released by the university.
Does the finding suggest that conservatives are lazy thinkers?
"Not quite," Dr. Eidelman told MBROOKS in an email. "Our research shows that low-effort thought promotes political conservatism, not that political conservatives use low-effort thinking."
For the study, a team of psychologists led by Dr. Eidelman asked people about their political viewpoints in a bar and in a laboratory setting.
Bar patrons were asked about social issues before blowing into a Breathalyzer. As it turned out, the political viewpoints of patrons with high blood alcohol levels were more likely to be conservative than were those of patrons whose blood alcohol levels were low.
But it wasn't just the alcohol talking, according to the statement. When the researchers conducted similar interviews in the lab, they found that people who were asked to evaluate political ideas quickly or while distracted were more likely to express conservative viewpoints.
"Keeping people from thinking too much...or just asking them to deliberate or consider information in a cursory manner can impact people's political attitudes, and in a way that consistently promotes political conservatism," Dr. Eidelman said in the email.
The study was published online in the journal "Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin."
Fortunately for conservatives intelligence has nothing to do with being more American or patriotic. Which is nice because if they do not agree with something democrats say they can simply lay claim to that idea as being unpatriotic.
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Conservatives are called racist if they don't agree with the liberal philosophy. I think being called racist is far worse than unpatriotic

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Conservatives are called racist if they don't agree with the liberal philosophy. I think being called racist is far worse than unpatriotic
I don't know what is worse nor do I really care. I was just making a point that both sides say things to demonize their opposing party- things that quite frankly are not representative of the entire party. Are there racist conservatives, probably, just like there are racist democrats, as to which party should be defined as the "racist" party is irrelevant to me.

In the early 2000's a publication came out that found that self identified democrats were more likely to both attend and graduate college than a self identified republican, conversely those self identified republicans who had a college degree were more likely to have a degree in higher education. So what's to make of that? The smartest of the republicans are smarter than democrats or democrats are more likely to be smarter than republicans. I don't know and I do not really have an opinion about it.

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sss JOHN HAMM wrote:
Conservatives and liberals don't seem to agree about much, and they might not agree about recent studies linking conservatism to low intelligence and "low-effort" thinking.
As reported in February, a study published in the journal "Psychological Science" showed that children who score low on intelligence tests gravitate toward socially conservative political views in adulthood--perhaps because conservative ideologies stress "structure and order" that make it easier to understand a complicated world.
Ouch.
And now there's the new study linking conservative ideologies to "low-effort" thinking.
"People endorse conservative ideology more when they have to give a first or fast response," the study's lead author, University of Arkansas psychologist Dr. Scott Eidelman, said in a written statement released by the university.
Does the finding suggest that conservatives are lazy thinkers?
"Not quite," Dr. Eidelman told MBROOKS in an email. "Our research shows that low-effort thought promotes political conservatism, not that political conservatives use low-effort thinking."
For the study, a team of psychologists led by Dr. Eidelman asked people about their political viewpoints in a bar and in a laboratory setting.
Bar patrons were asked about social issues before blowing into a Breathalyzer. As it turned out, the political viewpoints of patrons with high blood alcohol levels were more likely to be conservative than were those of patrons whose blood alcohol levels were low.
But it wasn't just the alcohol talking, according to the statement. When the researchers conducted similar interviews in the lab, they found that people who were asked to evaluate political ideas quickly or while distracted were more likely to express conservative viewpoints.
"Keeping people from thinking too much...or just asking them to deliberate or consider information in a cursory manner can impact people's political attitudes, and in a way that consistently promotes political conservatism," Dr. Eidelman said in the email.
The study was published online in the journal "Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin."
So this has what to do with voter ID's ?

I mean, what the hell are you trying to make a point of here other then someone is smarter then the other, I get it.

The blog is about should you be ID'ed before you cast your vote, and not if I were to drink to much, I become unwise at the picks I make in life.

Just like a Democrat to always try in flipping a post, because they know that if a they try and debate the real cause of a post they lose.

Now that is one thing I just don't get.

The joke now should be, "what to you get with 1 million Democrats on the bottom of the sea...... A start", and not, What do you get with 1 million lawyers at the bottom of the sea".

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Saw that but it does not matter to them until they lose the vote then they'll be all over ID's, just like when FL had the problem with the punch cards, and the vote did not go the way of the vote.
If the Dem's allow the ID to be set in the states, then Barry will lose as will most democrats heading for election.
Its the only way the Democrats can get a vote is if it's a dishonest one, made by an illegle.
I don't think you can make an unbiased claim that if IDs are required to vote democrats will lose elections. Is there a credible number that shows how many illegals vote in any election? I am willing to bet that 8 million illegal immigrants didn't vote in 2008 (difference between Obama and McCain)- and yes I know we use an electorate not majority.

I stand somewhere in the middle on this issue. While it makes perfect sense that everyone should have an ID-- to drive, write a check, open accounts, show proof that a credit card isn't stolen, etc, I have a problem that a user funded ID card could be required to vote. When you charge someone to vote that becomes very shaky ground. I realize that a voter ID card would have more versatility than just a voting card, but it doesn't seem right to charge someone for a card that would allow them to vote.

If states want to give out free voter ID cards I would probably support requiring ID to vote.

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I don't think you can make an unbiased claim that if IDs are required to vote democrats will lose elections. Is there a credible number that shows how many illegals vote in any election? I am willing to bet that 8 million illegal immigrants didn't vote in 2008 (difference between Obama and McCain)- and yes I know we use an electorate not majority.
I stand somewhere in the middle on this issue. While it makes perfect sense that everyone should have an ID-- to drive, write a check, open accounts, show proof that a credit card isn't stolen, etc, I have a problem that a user funded ID card could be required to vote. When you charge someone to vote that becomes very shaky ground. I realize that a voter ID card would have more versatility than just a voting card, but it doesn't seem right to charge someone for a card that would allow them to vote.
If states want to give out free voter ID cards I would probably support requiring ID to vote.
Then it's simple don't charge for the voter ID card, the states can fund this card.
I am sure that there would not be that many to fund the card for as if you listen to Holder there is not a problem with voters not being able to vote.
And for the ones that pay for diver Lic's well that can be used for the same thing as a voter card infact any form of Government ID card should be able to be used for ID.
Hell you have to give 3 forms of ID just to rent a car or get power, water, and write a check as you said.
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Then it's simple don't charge for the voter ID card, the states can fund this card.
I am sure that there would not be that many to fund the card for as if you listen to Holder there is not a problem with voters not being able to vote.
And for the ones that pay for diver Lic's well that can be used for the same thing as a voter card infact any form of Government ID card should be able to be used for ID.
Hell you have to give 3 forms of ID just to rent a car or get power, water, and write a check as you said.
Some of you lunatics should be required to have a mental examination before being allowed to vote.
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The Constitution forbids establishment or support of a state religion. Likewise, it prohibits the government from interfering in the individual's right to practice his religion.

Problem: Pennsylvania Republicans have just passed one of the most stringent voter ID laws in the country. In order to vote, one must present a government-approved ID card. Pennsylvania has the largest contingent of Amish in the United States, and it is against their religious practices to allow photographs.

Question: have the Amish people been deprived of 1) their right to practice their religion, 2) their right to vote, or 3) both?

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