Another ex of what unions do to our country

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UNION AND PROUD wrote:

<quoted text>What dont you understand ? You would not even have been able to make your stupid post without union people taking care of your phone lines or your electric lines how about the water you wash with or drink ? Hell the paper you wipe your ass with was probally delivered by a teamster which by the way the roads he drives on are taken care of by who? Yes thats right union people again, the list goes on and on if you look at it I guess I was wrong in saying some things are handled by union people. How about most things are ? So go ahead and boycot the things that are touched or taken care of by union people, just remember the person that delivers all your shut off notices will be union also!
UNION AND PROUD

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non union wrote:

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You've yet to tell us why those people HAD to be union in order to accomplish their jobs.

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UNION AND PROUD wrote:

<quoted text>What dont you understand ? You would not even have been able to make your stupid post without union people taking care of your phone lines or your electric lines how about the water you wash with or drink ? Hell the paper you wipe your ass with was probally delivered by a teamster which by the way the roads he drives on are taken care of by who? Yes thats right union people again, the list goes on and on if you look at it I guess I was wrong in saying some things are handled by union people. How about most things are ? So go ahead and boycot the things that are touched or taken care of by union people, just remember the person that delivers all your shut off notices will be union also!
UNION AND PROUD

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bust a union save a job wrote:

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I just read your post there union proud so I will give you some things to think about.
I doubt that most things are touched by unions. 89% of the Nations work force is NOT union, hence I doubt the "all things union" non sense. If the roads are made by union people, that would definately explain why they are in such poor condition. It would also explain why they never seem to finish them. Come to think of it, when someone drives down those roads and sees 4 or 5 guys standing around and one guy working, that proves that yes, they are union indeed. Our deliveries at our company are made by non union drivers and my toilet paper....well I find it fitting that if indeed it is produced by union workers, then wiping up is the only thing that product would be good for. Also, I have well water, and I use solar stored power for my electricity. Please take note of this observation, if you would put as much energy into your job as you do into your trivial posts, you may find that you could actually function without the protection of a union as well.

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UNION AND PROUD wrote:

<quoted text>You cant turn this your way! They didnt have to be they chose to be to get the job [same as you when you worked under the CWA] Which by the way is one of the strongest unions in PA! At this point im not going to get into a pissing match with you just to make a point, my post was made to maybe get you and others to look around and see what union people do for us all in every day life, its alot more than most poeple think
STILL UNION
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non union wrote:

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So even you admit there's no use for a union, since the government regulates it now.
Thanks for proving my point.

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non union wrote:

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You can barely live on 60k a year? You're kidding, aren't you?
What type of secondary education do auto workers have that should garner them more than say someone working in any other kind of factory that is non union?
A first year teacher makes about $30k a year, with a 4 year degree. A factory worker deserves twice that?

Go to yahoo finance, you can find out what any officer of any public company makes. Its public record. I personally don't care.
Why are people that work for non union auto makers like Hyundai and Honda perfectly happy and have repeatedly turned down union representation?
Why is union membership dwindling and many companies have stated flat out that if their workers unionize, they shut down and move overseas? I know of companies that have done exactly that.

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bust a union save a job wrote:

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I just read your post there union proud so I will give you some things to think about.
I doubt that most things are touched by unions. 89% of the Nations work force is NOT union, hence I doubt the "all things union" non sense. If the roads are made by union people, that would definately explain why they are in such poor condition. It would also explain why they never seem to finish them. Come to think of it, when someone drives down those roads and sees 4 or 5 guys standing around and one guy working, that proves that yes, they are union indeed. Our deliveries at our company are made by non union drivers and my toilet paper....well I find it fitting that if indeed it is produced by union workers, then wiping up is the only thing that product would be good for. Also, I have well water, and I use solar stored power for my electricity. Please take note of this observation, if you would put as much energy into your job as you do into your trivial posts, you may find that you could actually function without the protection of a union as well.

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union life wrote:

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What you think you gotta be union to be a slacker? Union guys get fired everyday here in Chicago for slacking off. And don`t even try telling me your 100% working at all times at your job. I`m sure you got time to sit at the water bottle and discuss last nights game. If you say different your a liar.

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Independent wrote:

I have worked both union closed shops, as well as open shops. Given a choice I avoided the union like a plague.
Union is ok in principle, problem is the union leadership. They and their henchmen tend control how and what to think.
When the members are on strike, they still collect their fat checks, and bennies. If they had any balls they would forgo their salaries until the strike is over. I know of one transit union in Baltimore that refuse to open their books to members, so the membership would know how much money they suck in, and how good they are at wasting it.
Further, the union will spend every nickel of the members to defend the lazy and incompetent, instead of throwing the bum out. Yet at the same time prevent rewarding the highly competent, diligent workers.
It would generally benefit the union if the union leadership gets their arrogant heads out of their butts.

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union life wrote:

there is no known law that says you have to be union. your choice, join or work at Wal-Mart.

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union life wrote:

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I could put you and a hundred teachers in that factory and you couldn`t bake a cake, let alone build a car. Secondary education is the only prerequisite for having livable wages? Is this George Bush or non-union know it all speaking. What do you do for a living? Why you so bitter?
Oh and by the way i`m a union engineer with a bacholers degree. I guess you non-unioners call that secondary education right?
They will be fired for trying to organize! Maybe not right away but fired in due time.
And Toyota has many UNION shops in this country, look it up as you like to say.
You avoid all points that shoot down your ridiculous postings, and try to scew facts. Not working on BIG city mentality in A real union town CHICAGO!

non union wrote:

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So, what you are saying is as SOON as you sign a union card, you gain a wealth of knowledge? Please explain how this works.

bust a union save a job wrote:

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I would attempt a response to your post however I have yet to understand the first two or three lines. Fortunately we in Pennsylvani have not been hit to hard by illegal immigration and the bilingual state. Perhaps you may want to have an English teacher proof read your post next time.

non union wrote:

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So, what you are saying is as SOON as you sign a union card, you gain a wealth of knowledge? Please explain how this works.

Independent wrote:

I have worked both union closed shops, as well as open shops. Given a choice I avoided the union like a plague.
Union is ok in principle, problem is the union leadership. They and their henchmen tend control how and what to think.
When the members are on strike, they still collect their fat checks, and bennies. If they had any balls they would forgo their salaries until the strike is over. I know of one transit union in Baltimore that refuse to open their books to members, so the membership would know how much money they suck in, and how good they are at wasting it.
Further, the union will spend every nickel of the members to defend the lazy and incompetent, instead of throwing the bum out. Yet at the same time prevent rewarding the highly competent, diligent workers.
It would generally benefit the union if the union leadership gets their arrogant heads out of their butts.

non union wrote:

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Are you forced to join a union to say, work in a unionized auto factory, or can you be "non union" along side of union members?

union life wrote:

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You also are a moron, was that english enough for you? And try typing correctly when giving a grammar lesson idiot.