Who do you support for Governor in Ohio in 2010?

It isn't corporate welfare, it's keeping investment dollars in commuities that would otherwise be misappropriated and wasted from the Monarchy of Washington DC. Overhead tax burden stifles economic growth because it's recycled currency that swirls around the economy until it's taxed to nothing, losing value at each transaction. No wonder our economy is stagnant and dead in the water. Too many government fingers in the till !
Imagine many much will be carted out the back door of the Treasury when the Chicago Mafia is ousted from the throne. It's probably happening right now !

"Imagine how much will....."

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>your Right it is
CATO Corporate Welfare
http://www.cato.org/pubs/handbook/hb108/hb108...

Indy: Can we discuss "corporate welfare," as it relates to the SOLYNDA CORPORATION? Over a half billion? For what? Quiz question 4 the day: What presidential candidate was /is SOLYNDA a big political contributor to ?????? Clue: It's not Ron Paul

IS SUN BURN and COAL BURNING THE SAME?

Solyndra was a manufacturer of cylindrical panels of CIGS thin-film solar cells based in Fremont, California. Although the company was once touted for its unusual technology, plummeting silicon prices led to the company being unable to compete with more conventional solar panels.[1] On September 1, 2011, the company ceased all business activity, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, and laid off all employees.[2] The company is also being sued by employees who were abruptly laid off.[3]

what happened to the freezer burn part of the thingie?

this POO is NO GOOD PEOPLE!= solar cells

Kennesaw71 wrote:

Or as the southern belles say: "tarnada." :-)

The modern southern bell exclaims: "Oh Rhett, where shall I go? what shall I do? Weight watchers? Tops? Gastric by pass? us southern states have the fattest women on record in the history of the US or where shall we go? what shall we do? http://www.statemaster.com/graph/hea_obe_rat-...

"Only a fool would try to deprive working men and women of their right to join the union of their choice."

Listen to the way he goes after the right here. "Should any political party attempt to abolish Social Security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things, but their number is negligible and"--and the president says--"their number is negligible and they are stupid."

That is not what Barack Obama said last night. That is way to the left of any national Democrat at this point. That was all Republican President Dwight David Eisenhower. That was all the stuff he said when he was president.

Republican President Dwight Eisenhower, president when the top tax bracket for the richest people in this country was 92 percent. President Eisenhower defended that tax bracket. He said we cannot afford to reduce taxes until, quote, "the factors of income and outgo will be balanced." Eisenhower insisting there must be a balanced budget and that taxes on the rich are the way to balance it. Dwight Eisenhower, you know, noted leftist.

The Republican Party platform of Eisenhower's 1956 called for expansion of Social Security, broadened unemployment insurance, better health protection for all of our people. It called for voting rights--full voting civil rights for D.C. It called for expanding the minimum wage to cover more workers. It called for improved job safety for workers, equal pay for workers regardless of sex.

This is the Republican Party circa 1956. The Republican Party.

The story of modern American politics writ large is the story of your father's and your grandfather's Republican Party now being way to the left of today's leftiest liberals. If Dwight Eisenhower were running for office today, he would have to run, I'm guessing as an independent, and not as some Joe Lieberman, in between the parties, independent. He'd be a Bernie Sanders independent.

In 1982, who passed the largest peacetime tax increase in U.S. history? That would be Ronald Reagan.

Who called for comprehensive health reform legislation during in a State of the Union address in 1974, a program that was well to the left of what either Bill Clinton or Barack Obama ultimately proposed? That would be Richard Nixon.

Eisenhower and Reagan and Nixon--they were not the liberals of their day. They were the conservatives of their own time.

But the whole of American politics has shifted so far to the right in the last 50 years that what used to be thought of as conservative, what used to be thought of as a conservative position, is now considered to be off--------- Yep, the democrats ARE the new republicans and todays republicans are the new mental health clients

free wrote:

It isn't corporate welfare, it's keeping investment dollars in commuities that would otherwise be misappropriated and wasted from the Monarchy of Washington DC. Overhead tax burden stifles economic growth because it's recycled currency that swirls around the economy until it's taxed to nothing, losing value at each transaction. No wonder our economy is stagnant and dead in the water. Too many government fingers in the till !
Imagine many much will be carted out the back door of the Treasury when the Chicago Mafia is ousted from the throne. It's probably happening right now !

End Corporate Welfare

Stop giving handouts to big business

In America today, the biggest recipients of handouts are not poor people. They're corporations.

http://reason.com/archives/2011/03/24/end-cor...

Government Spends More on Corporate Welfare Subsidies than Social Welfare Programs

http://thinkbynumbers.org/blog/government-spe...

Corporate Welfare as you describe it is allowing private companies to reinvest their gross profits back into their product line, equipment, workforce and neighborhood economy. They do not feed the waste of middle management government BEAST. Less overhead tax burden and more private investment productivity that increase tax revenues to state and local jurisdictions.
Big Government.....GET OUT ! And tend to their Constitutional duties, and social doodies.

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>End Corporate Welfare
Stop giving handouts to big business
In America today, the biggest recipients of handouts are not poor people. They're corporations.
http://reason.com/archives/2011/03/24/end-cor...
Government Spends More on Corporate Welfare Subsidies than Social Welfare Programs
http://thinkbynumbers.org/blog/government-spe...

American Greetings is moving into it's new palace and then going to outsource some of the jobs that are now done at the Brooklyn location to India. Now that is well spent money from the tax payers in a grant to this company. I for one do not think they should be getting a dine if they are going to outsorce the jobs while receiving this monies ....

free wrote:

Corporate Welfare as you describe it is allowing private companies to reinvest their gross profits back into their product line, equipment, workforce and neighborhood economy. They do not feed the waste of middle management government BEAST. Less overhead tax burden and more private investment productivity that increase tax revenues to state and local jurisdictions.
Big Government.....GET OUT ! And tend to their Constitutional duties, and social doodies.
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I you read that article Corporations want Government Involvement they feel that Government is their safety net or they wouldnt be up there in Washington DC involved in politics. Corporate Welfare which is nothing more than the Fleecing of the America by allowing private companies use the corporate welfare system to reinvest their gross profits back into their product line, equipment, workforce and neighborhood economy like China & Mexico which they have for the past two decades.

The Corporate safety net ? You mean the need to keep lobbyists in Congressional Halls because politicians can't be trusted to make good, sound economic decisions ? What overhead and regulatory tax burdens do foreign countries place on US patriated businesses ? Are there foreign, unyielding Unions to deal with ? Do Us shoppers buy foreign made goods ? They dooooo ? Even defense contractors use foreign made parts in our military assets.
How much easier is it to manufacture goods offshore ?

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>I you read that article Corporations want Government Involvement they feel that Government is their safety net or they wouldnt be up there in Washington DC involved in politics. Corporate Welfare which is nothing more than the Fleecing of the America by allowing private companies use the corporate welfare system to reinvest their gross profits back into their product line, equipment, workforce and neighborhood economy like China & Mexico which they have for the past two decades.

free wrote:

The Corporate safety net ? You mean the need to keep lobbyists in Congressional Halls because politicians can't be trusted to make good, sound economic decisions ? What overhead and regulatory tax burdens do foreign countries place on US patriated businesses ? Are there foreign, unyielding Unions to deal with ? Do Us shoppers buy foreign made goods ? They dooooo ? Even defense contractors use foreign made parts in our military assets.
How much easier is it to manufacture goods offshore ?
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Jack Abramoff is a good example why the lobbyist are up there in Washington DC and it isnt the need to keep lobbyists in Congressional Halls because politicians can't be trusted to make good, sound economic decisions.

Jack Abramoff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Abramoff

Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Nazi Suposi, Hairy WEED, Debbie Whatshername Shiltz and all the Liberal Dirty Democrat criminals are why law enforcement needs to patrol the Halls and arrest the political Bernie Made-Offs WHO MISAPPROPRIATE TAXPAYER FUNDS. Abramoff was a creature of the political jungle.
Of course, Eric Holder is in the tank for the Chicago Mafia, so law enforcement in DC is a complete joke, as are Democrat supporters.

free wrote:

Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Nazi Suposi, Hairy WEED, Debbie Whatshername Shiltz and all the Liberal Dirty Democrat criminals are why law enforcement needs to patrol the Halls and arrest the political Bernie Made-Offs WHO MISAPPROPRIATE TAXPAYER FUNDS. Abramoff was a creature of the political jungle.
Of course, Eric Holder is in the tank for the Chicago Mafia, so law enforcement in DC is a complete joke, as are Democrat supporters.

speaking of the Democrats & Jack Abramoff

Democrats Also Got Tribal DonationsAmong the biggest beneficiaries were Capitol Hill's most powerful Democrats, including Thomas A. Daschle (S.D.) and Harry M. Reid (Nev.), the top two Senate Democrats at the time, Richard A. Gephardt (Mo.), then-leader of the House Democrats, and the two lawmakers in charge of raising funds for their Democratic colleagues in both chambers, according to a Washington Post study. Reid succeeded Daschle as Democratic leader after Daschle lost his Senate seat

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

free wrote:

Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Nazi Suposi, Hairy WEED, Debbie Whatshername Shiltz and all the Liberal Dirty Democrat criminals are why law enforcement needs to patrol the Halls and arrest the political Bernie Made-Offs WHO MISAPPROPRIATE TAXPAYER FUNDS. Abramoff was a creature of the political jungle.
Of course, Eric Holder is in the tank for the Chicago Mafia, so law enforcement in DC is a complete joke, as are Democrat supporters.

Former Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff was sentenced to five years and 10 months in prison on March 29, after pleading guilty to fraud, tax evasion and conspiracy to bribe public officials in a deal that requires him to cooperate in an investigation into his relationshps with members of Congress. Sources familiar with the federal probe have told The Post that half a dozen lawmakers are under scrutiny, along with Hill aides, former business associates and government officials.

The scandal prompted Rep. Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) and Rep. Robert Ney (R-Ohio) to give up their leadership posts, and on Oct. 13, 2006, Ney pleaded guilty to charges stemming from the scandal. On Jan. 19, 2007, Ney was sentenced to 30 months in prison for his role in the scandal. Two of Abramoff's former business partners have pleaded guilty. Three men have been arrested in the slaying of Gus Boulis, who sold Abramoff and partners a fleet of Florida casino ships in the fall of 2000. Another former Abramoff associate, David H. Safavian — most recently the top contracting official in the White House Office of Management and Budget — was convicted for lying about his dealings with Abramoff.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

free wrote:

The Corporate safety net ? You mean the need to keep lobbyists in Congressional Halls because politicians can't be trusted to make good, sound economic decisions ? What overhead and regulatory tax burdens do foreign countries place on US patriated businesses ? Are there foreign, unyielding Unions to deal with ? Do Us shoppers buy foreign made goods ? They dooooo ? Even defense contractors use foreign made parts in our military assets.
How much easier is it to manufacture goods offshore ?
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I remember years ago how my father used to rag on the Republicans because they gave McDonalds something like a billion dollars. He said they were taking care of their wealthy friends.

After a while, I looked up what my father was talking about. As it turns out, McDonalds doesn't require any of their restaurants to purchase their goods from any particular place. As long as they can make a Big Mac taste like a Big Mac, that's all the company cares about.

The US agriculture employees were complaining that foreign owned McDonalds purchased little US products. The Republicans went out to find out what was going on. Here it turns out that in other countries, their unions promote purchasing their goods to produce the foods in foreign owned McDonalds. They were basically salesmen. They would take the owners out to a strip joint, get drunk, tell them how beautiful their ugly wife was, and in return, the franchise owners would purchase foreign agriculture products.

So the US spent this money so that US agriculture could hire sales people and do the same thing that foreign unions were doing. They would take the franchise owners out, get them drunk, tell them how beautiful their ugly wives were, and US agriculture exports rose 65%.

Not all so-called corporate welfare is a bad thing. It just appears that way as it did to my father. Looking deeper, some of that money spent helps thousands if not tens of thousands of blue collar workers.

Can you give me the RR lead, again, I recall Corman ? I'm communicating with a Cincinnati RR contact whose group comes to Sidney regularly to view passing trains, taking pictures. There must be a heck of a draw for folks to travel that far to watch trains.???? We're bouncing around some ideas and your restaurant concept is on the table. Thanks.

Kennesaw71 wrote:

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You have a profound grasp of the obvious on those movie references there.

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>End Corporate Welfare
Stop giving handouts to big business
In America today, the biggest recipients of handouts are not poor people. They're corporations.

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I'll be blunt, as I usually am.
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First, thanks for sharing that xxx.
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Second, I aint interested in one DAMN POOR PERSON ANYWHERE.....
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What does interest me is making jobs, private sector jobs. I don't care if a POOR person takes the job or not. That's up to them and their personal decision.
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Indy, I understand you don't particularly care for "Corporate Welfare," but just like any sport, ITS PART OF THE GAME. When my candidate, Herman Cain, ceased his campaign, that was the end of any chance of acheiving the Fair Tax, which would have ended "Corporate Welfare," along with a multitude of other complete and utter bullshit policies in our current government.
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Now, no matter who is elected, "Corporate Welfare" WILL continue, so just like in any sport, it's still part of the rules, so if you can't play by the rules, you better prepare for an asswhuppin.
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Nathan Deal and Nikki Haley can make the decisions regarding Corporate Welfare that are working in the south. Go to West Point Georgia and see those people walking around like they just won the f*cking lottery. In a town that once had 3,500 people, there are now over 10,000 jobs that need filled, including the halo. That was thanks to KIA taking whatever CORPORATE WELFARE there was to take and settling in.
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Nikki Haley brought 10,000 Boeing jobs to Charleston and that's before halo affect jobs. John Kasich has the wherewithall to be able to compete with those governors and if Ohio loses him, they're goin right back on the same route as the Titanic.
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Try to understand the Solyndras. INCREDIBLY bad decision regarding Corporate Welfare. Ceasar Obamus knew it was throwing good money after bad but since he knew it was going to help fill his campaign war chest, it was a no brainer for Ceasar. It was part of the game and we gotta deal with it. ITS PART OF THE GAME.
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Like I say. You'd better be able to deal with the rules of any sport you might wanna play. Not playing with corporate welfare is only going to lead to Jim Tressel results. RUN RUN PASS PUNT RUN RUN PASS PUNT RUN RUN PASS PUNT RUN RUN PASS PUNT Lose the bowl game AGAIN.....