Laguna Hills High School

Princess Of Power wrote:

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Hello Angel Eyes. What does it mean? A heart opening?

I'm surprised Princess of Power. It shouldn't be news to you as such.....perhaps its going on right now. Quizz?

Angel eyes wrote:

<quoted text>Do I detect a heart opening going on here? Who was/is the victim?

Nice try!!!!

Some sanity please wrote:

If a person was gay with consenting men, it is a huge jump to then insinuate homosexual acts with non-consenting men, and then an insane jump to assume sex with boys, and then a loved son!
Such faulty vilifying logic bespeaks of a personal vendetta.

Nice try, too!!!!!

Former disciple 2 wrote:

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Nice try!!!!

Oh shucks. Come on. Your whole demeanour softened when you wrote your story. It was a really different energy coming off you. Prizes for trying?

RIPjasha wrote:

Go here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060223043250/htt...
Click: Calendar
then Click: Events Remembered
yeah, theres an..odd?..picture, its the 1st one.
Just take a look.. I'm not saying anything...

Thanks. That led me to discover what a "heart opening" is-

"My Miracle

I have just returned home late, after having gathered up my three young children from various babysitters and tucked them in, and I am going to take a moment before sweet sleep overtakes me, to sit for a few moments (to the “tune” of my snoring hubby in the background!) to write you a few words of thanks for “my miracle” after having had the honor of your wisdom tonight at your “An Evening With…” at Melbourne University, Australia (16 December 2005). My morning started today with being diagnosed with breast cancer (not a very kind way to start the day, to say the least!) and finished, I now know, not by any co-incidence, with an evening with you. By rights I probably should feel as though I have been through a wringer! But therein lies my miracle...

This evening I had the most amazing experience in your presence. For this past week I have had to face my own mortality and it has been quite a week! The questions that have plagued my mind! Well, as you can imagine, I have searched to the very edges of my mind for the answers to ALL the questions of my life—the “Why me’s” have surfaced, the “Where did I go wrong’s?” not to forget the “Oh no! Who is going to love my children like I do’s?” to the resignation of “Oh well, maybe it’s God’s will and perhaps ‘he’ needs me on ‘the other side,’” and, well, the whole spectrum in between. You probably get the picture: Had me dead and buried and thanks for the memories!

And then I met YOU actually face-to-face! Gave me a bit of a fright at first, as I spent most of your conversation in a wonderful, most amazingly insightful meditation...I could hardly believe my ears! As you, in all your truly amazing wisdom, began to answer ALL of my silent questions!“How does he see into my heart?”(I was thinking) and “How does he speak these truths of my spirit? How does he reach into those dark places of fear buried so deep within me and speak with such down-to-earth clarity? Who is this man?”

And then I opened my eyes with a head that felt like a huge ball of light... And there YOU were, looking deep into my eyes, knowing the questions in my heart and smiling with all your beauty and peace at my inability to answer your question of me. What questions could I still have when you have just laid my life bare and filled my very being with all that love! I thought I should burst! But you just smiled, in that beautiful way of yours, that felt like an angel’s caress, and said something kind about MY heart! And you did not stop there as you THEN proceeded to answer (through two other audience members) those exact “Questions of questions” that had dried up on my tongue in your gaze!...Now if THAT is not a miracle! then I wonder just what IS a miracle?

So here I am typing at 2 a.m., filled with the peace of your love, and I want to say “Thank you” again for this miracle of mine that I will keep with me for always and share whenever I can…this beautiful love that you share with all the world. My life will continue to be all the more wondrous for our paths having crossed this evening, of this I am certain...

Thank You so much with all my heart.

Always yours,

Vicki Torcello
Melbourne, Australia"

It would be quite something to have such a man who inspires so many, as a father.

Jasha, in case you haven't heard the many times I've apologized out loud, I am so sorry. I'm sorry for everything you've gone through. You never acted the least bit sad and anyone who was not a true friend of yours would not be able to tell you were troubled by things that people could not imagine in a lifetime. I sat close to you every day, yet I was so far away from you. I'm sorry I had no idea what was going on, and I'm sorry I still do not know what was going on to have caused your death. I am so, so sorry Jasha. You were truly an incredibly special person. You were smart, curious, and had the most amazing eyes. I'm sorry I did not get to know you better. I am so sorry. I wish I had. I want more than anything for you to be back. I miss you. Sometimes I'd just stare at the back of your head. You had beautiful hair. You are an amazing person. I mean that with all my heart. I am so sorry, Jasha. Have fun up there.

Vicki, I am sorry to hear you're battling breast cancer. I hope you find truth and clarity and fulfillment. You are in my prayers.

I've been looking deeper into the background of the nut, Louix and it seems that the mother has been completely brain-washed as well. The following is a link chronicling the birth of Ariel. This is completely crazy stuff, if all of this isn't enough to make people ask questions, what is?
http://web.archive.org/web/20041212215411/www...

Here's another link to check out:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060518052831/www...

Vicki, I'm sorry to hear you're battling breast cancer. It sounds like he was a nice man, but that encounter in no way makes him any sort of god. He might be talented at making people feel the way he made you feel, but try thinking reasonably about what he calls himself and why. You did see the posts about how he used to be an actor, right? This is just a bigger role, and he's conned you. You are worth more than this. He's talented in making people feel special, in saying the right things. Please, I beg you to investigate this man more before you make any decisions about him. He is good at acting, that's all.

You are in my prayers. I hope you find the truth and overcome your cancer.

It seems that Louix's people are getting to you all. Let us not forget the focus, which is getting to the bottom of what really happened to Jasha. If any close friends are reading this, please reply to this. We need to get information from Jasha's FRIENDS, not Louix's "disciples".

jnc wrote:

It seems that Louix's people are getting to you all. Let us not forget the focus, which is getting to the bottom of what really happened to Jasha. If any close friends are reading this, please reply to this. We need to get information from Jasha's FRIENDS, not Louix's "disciples".

JNC I realise you came in late but many of us have been here since day 1 on this chat room. Something incredible happened when FD2 told her story, because it was the first time in 38 pages she'd related her substance, her feelings, her inactions, quandries. To me it was the defining post. In many ways finding out who did what is far less important than healing ourselves. I don't know about you but in some way FD2's story was about her closure, healing and therefore it has a snowball effect here. In a wierd way, despite the content, I actually found it inspiring and moving. It it the journey or the destination to you (as a radio producer?) which has the quality listeners want to hear? Why do you only want one perspective any way? What makes this debate interesting and fascinating is the different perspectives. I love Louix but I also love the former disciples, and I love the girl who just wrote to reach out to the cancer patient (even though it was a post from the website which is now 2+ yr old). To me its hard not to love anyone who's in pain right now. Everyone needs some sugar, everyone needs some Source. I've had other masters in my life, they come and go, they stay with me wherever I am no matter what they do or where they go. they teach, they go. The teachings are the gold and even though FD2 is writing her story from long ago, she is still embracing many of the things that are true - those things we all know in our hearts.

Actually, I did not come in late to this. I've known about the death of Jasha since the day he was found slain. But, it was not until I spent a day with my(much)younger sisters, who are friends with Jasha, that I decided to start investigating and posting. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with me wanting to get the word out via the media. This has EVERYTHING to do with me wanting to help my little sisters (and Jasha's other friends) who are hurting and want answers.

Trublue wrote:

I called someone I know that is the OC bureau chief for KNBC news. One of their reporters will be at my house tomorrow A.M. This is merely a fact-finding mission; I have been assured nothing will be televised. The media says the police investigators are not speaking, but the case is not closed pending toxicology results (this report will take a couple of weeks). KNBC will not report on hearsay. Sorry teens, but for your own safety and privacy you don't want to get involved with the media. However, we are counting on you to tell the absolute truth about anything that you witnessed or Jasha, or Ela told you personally, to your parents. Please let them speak on your behalf to expose the truth. The media may be the outlet for you to be heard and not dismissed. Remember, though, your facts must be substantiated and cannot be what you "heard" from a friend of a friend. Please do the right thing and get involved if you know something. There are two more children in that household that you could be saving.
This investigation could also put to rest once and for all, allegations of abuse from a household that practices a religion few of us understand, and many find disturbing.
I think we all want the closure that comes with the truth. Regardless of what that truth is. We can all reconcile our own feeling with the facts. It is my hope that media attention will pressure the authorities to go the extra mile and get the investigation right.
I have been calling the parents of those of you that I have been told were close to Jasha. If you want to get involved, phone around to get info on tomorrow's meeting.

Just wondering what happened with your meeting. Have there been any more kids coming forward? I know they have been on spring break and probably wanting to put this aside, but I just don't want this story to die without some more attention.

Angel Anon wrote:

<quoted text>I've had other masters in my life, they come and go, they stay with me wherever I am no matter what they do or where they go.

Why do you need "masters"? Why go to other people and look up to them like they are GOD because they can look at you with soft eyes and tell you what they think you want to hear? Why do so many people put their power in someone else's hands? Wow, he really has quite a control and the acting job of his life. Quite sad.

girl who sits behind you wrote:

Jasha, in case you haven't heard the many times I've apologized out loud, I am so sorry. I'm sorry for everything you've gone through. You never acted the least bit sad and anyone who was not a true friend of yours would not be able to tell you were troubled by things that people could not imagine in a lifetime. I sat close to you every day, yet I was so far away from you. I'm sorry I had no idea what was going on, and I'm sorry I still do not know what was going on to have caused your death. I am so, so sorry Jasha. You were truly an incredibly special person. You were smart, curious, and had the most amazing eyes. I'm sorry I did not get to know you better. I am so sorry. I wish I had. I want more than anything for you to be back. I miss you. Sometimes I'd just stare at the back of your head. You had beautiful hair. You are an amazing person. I mean that with all my heart. I am so sorry, Jasha. Have fun up there.

Thank you for sharing your experience. He was a beautiful person!

jnc wrote:

It seems that Louix's people are getting to you all. Let us not forget the focus, which is getting to the bottom of what really happened to Jasha. If any close friends are reading this, please reply to this. We need to get information from Jasha's FRIENDS, not Louix's "disciples".

I think that it's very interesting that Louix has control over so many people. It is scary to think that someone with a pretty face, loving eyes and beautiful words has control of so many lives. It seems that there are many in the world that have issues and when they come across Louix and his trained diciples, they suck them into Louix's web of illusion. He has trained many years to be mightier than thou and it seems like his training has paid off because people would give their lives for him. Would they kill in the name of "God" as well? They know better than to question their "God". He preys on the weak minded.

What happens next wrote:

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Why do you need "masters"? Why go to other people and look up to them like they are GOD because they can look at you with soft eyes and tell you what they think you want to hear? Why do so many people put their power in someone else's hands? Wow, he really has quite a control and the acting job of his life. Quite sad.

What's sad is never knowing true power.

jnc wrote:

Actually, I did not come in late to this. I've known about the death of Jasha since the day he was found slain. But, it was not until I spent a day with my(much)younger sisters, who are friends with Jasha, that I decided to start investigating and posting. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with me wanting to get the word out via the media. This has EVERYTHING to do with me wanting to help my little sisters (and Jasha's other friends) who are hurting and want answers.

OK so how do we pull it apart for them?

Angel Anon wrote:

<quoted text>What's sad is never knowing true power.

What "true power" do you know? You tithe your income to some guy who claims to be God. You cannot make decisions for yourself, you spew all the same crap Louix spews.