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Kirk Cameron

Marietta, GA

#140490 May 9, 2012
Bill Of Rights wrote:
<quoted text>
What a consumate LIAR you are! Does lying come naturally or do you have to work at it? Lets see what the APA actually says about reparative therapy! And it most certainly isn't the lie you put forth! Busted again loser!
Reparative therapy,can gay's change their sexuality? The short answer is NO they can't and it could cause great psychological harm if even attempted!
From the APA WEB sight
http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/sexual-o...
Wow, you got us, we are busted. No, what does it say n February 2007, the American Psychological Association (APA) established the Task Force on Appropriate Therapeutic Responses to Sexual Orientation with a charge that included three major tasks:

2007, well that is not recent.

This is recent:

You APA link addresses conversion therapy, however they have not gotten around to redressing that. Please read.


APA revises 'gay gene' theory - admits it's not a psychological disorder
« on: May 14, 2009, 11:42:32 AM »

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.asp...

The attempt to prove that homosexuality is determined biologically has been dealt a knockout punch. An American Psychological Association publication includes an admission that there's no homosexual "gene" -- meaning it's not likely that homosexuals are born that way.

For decades, the APA has not considered homosexuality a psychological disorder, while other professionals in the field consider it to be a "gender-identity" problem. But the new statement, which appears in a brochure called "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation & Homosexuality," states the following:

"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles...."

That contrasts with the APA's statement in 1998: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality."

Peter LaBarbera, who heads Americans for Truth About Homosexuality, believes the more recent statement is an important admission because it undermines a popular theory.

"People need to understand that the 'gay gene' theory has been one of the biggest propaganda boons of the homosexual movement over the last 10 [or] 15 years," he points out. "Studies show that if people think that people are born homosexual they're much less likely to resist the gay agenda."

Matt Barber with Liberty Counsel feels the pronouncement may have something to do with saving face. "Well, I think here the American Psychological Association is finally trying to restore some credibility that they've lost over the years by having become a clearly political organization as opposed to an objective, scientific organization," he states.(Hear audio report)

With the new information from the APA, Barber wonders if the organization will admit that homosexuals who want to change can change.

"It's irrefutable from a medical standpoint that people can leave the homosexual lifestyle," he argues. "Homosexuality is defined by behavior. Untold thousands of people have found freedom from that lifestyle through either reparative therapy or through -- frankly, most effectively -- a relationship with Jesus Christ."

LaBarbera agrees. "Change through Christ is possible -- and it's one of the most heartwarming aspects of the whole gay debate," he shares. "Many men and women have come out of homosexuality, mostly through a relationship with Jesus Christ.

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#140491 May 9, 2012
sociopathic Liberals wrote:
<quoted text>
OK Morons! Then why do we vote? If the majority has no standing in your demented minds???
The truth? It has no liberal friends!
We vote to put people into office who best represents us.......we don't vote on the rights of other American Citizens!!!
Kirk Cameron

Marietta, GA

#140492 May 9, 2012
Bill Of Rights wrote:
<quoted text>
And mouth open,here comes yet more lie's! Why the APA changed their classification in the DSM,the truth,that is on record!And also from the APA the study on why gays are just as mentally healthy as straights! But in your sick case even more so! LOL
http://ralliance.org/TVC_APA.html
Why gays are just as mentally healthy as heterosexuals,the APA study!
www.apa.org/research/action/gay.aspx
All I have to say is wow. Your first link addresses the removal of homosexuality from the DSM list of disorders. Please, show us anywhere a medical decision by the APA was made based on a vote.

It does not matter, that was 1980 and now the APA has revised their position.

Second link was 2003 regarding healthiness of homosexuality.

Revised position by APA, they will no longer be making medical decisions based on political agendas.

They state that there is no innate orientation, but the evidence is that it is behavioral and psychological.

Pay attention, the APA is no longer your patsy.
Kirk Cameron

Marietta, GA

#140493 May 9, 2012
Wat the Tyler wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny how you mention the Constitution when those states that ban gay marriage aren't allowing the 14th amendment of the Constitution, which contains the equality clause. North Carolina singled out gay and lesbians in their state and deny them equal rights.
North KKKarolina = fascist state
Poor little woman.

Unfortunately for you, North Carolina and 44 states understand the 14th Amendment and so do I. Sadly you do not.

If you weren't around when it was compassionately explained to you all that the 14th Amendment does not include sexual orientation and behavior, then you will just have to be upset.
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#140494 May 9, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
As AMERICAN CITIZENS we shouldn't have to move to another state in order to be recognized as being married!!!
Sorry, but I really call BULL SHIET......if it were your rights being denied and voted on.....you'd be upset.......trust me.....I seen it already happen!!!
Guess what? Life will never never be fair for everyone....Life sucks, life is a stuggle...get on with your life, get used to it. Or if you are not happy, complain on the internet all day...lol.
Kirk Cameron

Marietta, GA

#140495 May 9, 2012
Wat the Tyler wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not the one denying people EQUAL RIGHTS and writing DISCRIMINATION into a state's CONSTITUTION.
POOR LITTLE BIGOT CHILD.

If you wish to be foolish and cry over spilled milk that was never yours to cry about, then I can't help you.

Unfortunately, if the polygamist wish to file a lawsuit for discrimination, then they will have to do it on the state level. I am sure that you are not speaking of gay sexual orientation, because you do not have protection for behavioral choices or nonchoices.
Kirk Cameron

Marietta, GA

#140496 May 9, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love
If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage
If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage
If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders
If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history
If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no effect
If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships
If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity
If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent
If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act
If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end
If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest
If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none
If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'
Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
You usually have great posts.

Well, this is one of your best.

Any reasonable gay will see the light and pack up their tent and move over to the "right" side, because they no that their side is "left" out.
Kirk Cameron

Marietta, GA

#140497 May 9, 2012
Bruno wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't waste your time queer one, I won't open it ... lol
Awesome, none of us open their weird links.
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#140498 May 9, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
We vote to put people into office who best represents us.......we don't vote on the rights of other American Citizens!!!
we never voted on the rights of the native americans. How did that work out? was it fair? Id be more concerned with their rights then who people want to sleep with.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#140499 May 9, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Let's vote on gun laws. If I lived in a gay dominated country where straight people were not allowed to marry, I would either keep living with my normal relationship or move to a normal country where I could marry if the vote was that it should remain the same.
Does anyone care what Dick would do if he lived in a gay dominated country?

anyone?

anyone?
Kirk Cameron

Marietta, GA

#140500 May 9, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
<quoted text>
Frankly this says it al..........If you believe OneNewsNow.com is an important source for Christian news,
please consider a small tax-deductible gift for this service.
This is from the APA,2003
We have examined many causes for homosexuality in the preceding pages, both biological and social. And although an interesting topic of debate, no one theory or experiment leads to a definitive answer. Some believe that the characters found on Xq28 are the Holy Grail of homosexuality research, the elusive 'gay gene'. Others may place stock in the theories of Foucault and Halperin. Perhaps Simon LeVay did reveal to us that anatomy is the key to understanding the difference in sexual orientation. Perhaps there is no one answer, that sexual orientation, whether homosexual or heterosexual; gay, straight, lesbian, or bisexual, all are a cause of a complex interaction between environmental, cognitive, and anatomical factors, shaping the individual at an early age
Let me help you, little gay liar.

Your link is dated 2003.

The below is dated 2009.

Did you see the beating that the gay community took from the APA?
APA revises 'gay gene' theory - admits it's not a psychological disorder
« on: May 14, 2009, 11:42:32 AM »
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.asp ...
The attempt to prove that homosexuality is determined biologically has been dealt a knockout punch. An American Psychological Association publication includes an admission that there's no homosexual "gene" -- meaning it's not likely that homosexuals are born that way.
For decades, the APA has not considered homosexuality a psychological disorder, while other professionals in the field consider it to be a "gender-identity" problem. But the new statement, which appears in a brochure called "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation & Homosexuality," states the following:
"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles...."
That contrasts with the APA's statement in 1998: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality."
Peter LaBarbera, who heads Americans for Truth About Homosexuality, believes the more recent statement is an important admission because it undermines a popular theory.
"People need to understand that the 'gay gene' theory has been one of the biggest propaganda boons of the homosexual movement over the last 10 [or] 15 years," he points out. "Studies show that if people think that people are born homosexual they're much less likely to resist the gay agenda."
Matt Barber with Liberty Counsel feels the pronouncement may have something to do with saving face. "Well, I think here the American Psychological Association is finally trying to restore some credibility that they've lost over the years by having become a clearly political organization as opposed to an objective, scientific organization," he states.(Hear audio report)
With the new information from the APA, Barber wonders if the organization will admit that homosexuals who want to change can change.
"It's irrefutable from a medical standpoint that people can leave the homosexual lifestyle," he argues. "Homosexuality is defined by behavior. Untold thousands of people have found freedom from that lifestyle through either reparative therapy or through -- frankly, most effectively -- a relationship with Jesus Christ."

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#140501 May 9, 2012
Obama is coming out and supporting gay marriage today.:) Woah!
Kirk Cameron

Marietta, GA

#140503 May 9, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets cut to the chase shall we? The APA relased a paper in 2003, they never claimed there to be a " Gay Gene", so how did they revise anything? You little copy and paste job is from a Christian website, whos idea is simple, pray your Gay away. Go away Doctor Demented.
Let's cut your gayness out of this. The APA revised it's position period. The revision never addresses a gay gene, so stop lying.

No, 1 is the new statement, while no.2 is the contrast.

NOW, GO BE GAY.

I will repeat, since you are a liar.

Did you see the beating that the gay community took from the APA?
APA revises 'gay gene' theory - admits it's not a psychological disorder
« on: May 14, 2009, 11:42:32 AM »
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.asp ...

For decades, the APA has not considered homosexuality a psychological disorder, while other professionals in the field consider it to be a "gender-identity" problem.

1. But the new statement, which appears in a brochure called "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation & Homosexuality," states the following:
"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles...."

2. That contrasts with the APA's statement in 1998: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality."
Kirk Cameron

Marietta, GA

#140508 May 9, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
<quoted text>If Oven Mitt is elected he will not defend DOMA, you can not defend an unconstitutional law. It would have to be rewritten and then submitted to congress.
DADT, silly azz law. It never stopped a Gay person from joining the military. Simply made a ruel, we wont ask and you don't tell. Now if you did tell them you where Gay then you can be discharged from the service. The killing of DADT was needed. A persons sexual orientation has nothing to do with their ability to preform their duties. Homosexuality is not a physical or mental issue that prevents the discharge of ones duties. Yes a Gay man or woman is capable of defending the US Constitution.
Your tears from a clown.

Sorry, Romney will defend DOMA, he will do his job.

Osama choice not to defend, because he has gay issues, he does not have the authority to rule it unconstitutional and Romney knows this.

Osama has just recently been slapped down twice by the high court, SCOTUS.

A man or woman joins the military, it is not and issue if he has sex with the same sex, himself, a rat, a cow, a hole in the wall, or anything else unless he makes it makes it an issue.

There is no such thing as a gay person, only a person who engages in gay sex. Learn the difference, it is a behavior not a race and a sexual practice not a gender.

You gays are in for a reality awakening.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#140509 May 9, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks Sly Clyde, is this a quiz? I prefer not. But the main point is that the people getting married will have to prove they were born that way.
Really? Since when? What interest does the state have in whether one was born a homosexual or not? Do straight people have to prove THEY were born that way?

You say the absolute stupidest things.
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>
which they can't.
Which they DON'T HAVE TO. Moron.
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>
gay marriage will open up for a lot of fraud marriages. all women will realize that a good female friend with a credit card and a cucumber makes just as good a husband as any man. As a consequence, all women will decide to marry their best friends. Or their Coach handbags, because sometimes a good purse is the best friend a girl can have. Men, on the other hand, will beeline for their nearest airport to tap out the sodomy shuffle in a bathroom stall. but besides the humor, i guess u get my point. it will make a joke out of marriage, next we will be marrying our sister or goat.
Validation that you are a moron.
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#140510 May 9, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Does anyone care what Dick would do if he lived in a gay dominated country?
anyone?
anyone?
wow, so is that true of the opposite?
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#140511 May 9, 2012
Wat the Tyler wrote:
Obama is coming out and supporting gay marriage today.:) Woah!
Great, this is all that matters, let's vote him in. lol...
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#140513 May 9, 2012
sociopathic Liberals wrote:
<quoted text>
AGAIN... by a tyrranical Govt.! Who does not respect the will of the people!
The Constitution is NOT up for a vote by the will of the people.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#140514 May 9, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>why don't we change the law so we can marry a sibling, maybe they were born that way, maybe u are denying them their "rights"?
Or, maybe you're just a moron, who can't come up with any type of rational argument to support your desire to discriminate.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#140515 May 9, 2012
Kirk Cameron wrote:
<quoted text>Your tears from a clown.
Sorry, Romney will defend DOMA, he will do his job.
Osama choice not to defend, because he has gay issues, he does not have the authority to rule it unconstitutional and Romney knows this.
Osama has just recently been slapped down twice by the high court, SCOTUS.
A man or woman joins the military, it is not and issue if he has sex with the same sex, himself, a rat, a cow, a hole in the wall, or anything else unless he makes it makes it an issue.
There is no such thing as a gay person, only a person who engages in gay sex. Learn the difference, it is a behavior not a race and a sexual practice not a gender.
You gays are in for a reality awakening.
Osama has been dead for a year, you idiot.

No such thing as a gay person, eh?
hahaahahahah
ahahahahahah
ahahahahahah
ahahahahahah

If you sit around and dream about gay sex all day, but never act on it, you are still GAY.

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