Missouri Proposition B: The Puppy Mill Bill

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Dogs Rule

Bonnots Mill, MO

#6769 Aug 16, 2012
Moon Babe if you wanta help out contact MPBA or contact Barb York. You keep mentioning rescues , so I'm guessing you are one? Remember you folks were also saddle with hefty license fees. You rescues need to voice your opionions were they will matter.@ Real Time you don't have a clue the hard work, money ,paper work,lack of sleep, or education seminars breeders must do. You should voulnteer at a shelter or get a job as a kennel assistant !!!! I will not work in town for $10hr or less and get goverment assistance. You keep getting your hand outs since your income is probably small & I'll cash my checks. No one is going to insure the college education of my children other then me. Sorry but I do not want hand outs the goverment is not my baby's daddy. Real Time next time you post use the last 2 brain cells you have!
Curious George

Stover, MO

#6770 Aug 16, 2012
Dogs Rule wrote:
Moonbabe I do understand ...you keep mentioning rescues, I'm guessing your part of one? If you & other rescue people are willing to fight along with us...consider attending a MPBA meeting or contacting Barb York . You could also email state reps and voice concerns. If none of that works Gov Nixon needs to go, Hagler does hold appointed postion...that is the only way to get Hagler out of the MODA office. Several of us is voting against Nixon since he screwed everyone with SB161 ! Its time for the rescues to take a stand as well or shut up. Remeber license fees and per capa was raised on you folks as well. Also Real Time ... several people have jobs in town and help with rescues or own kennels. Besides that what do you call a real job ? Nothing pays good in this area anyways. I went from making over $1,000 weekly 10 years ago when I moved here went to makin $300.00. Sorry I'd rather run my kennel then depend on goverment hand outs as that is NOT enough to support a family. I have children to put through college. So you keep getting assistance and I'll cash my checks !!!!!
How do we contact MPBA or Barb York? Some of us have been meeting with state reps also. Do you know that Hagler is related to someone high up in HSMO? They really pushed to get the bill through but did nothing to help dogs from breeders that were going to be put down.
DOGS RULE

Gasconade, MO

#6771 Aug 16, 2012
Curious George not suprised by your statement about Hagler, Jean Stark the state vet also has close ties to HSMO. Remember both of them were appointed by Nixon himself. Agriculture in this state is being ran by animal rights activists. Barb York is the president of MPBA (Mo Pet Breeders). You can email Barb justcuz53@yahoo.com . There is a new MPBA chapter in west plains, mo. Casey Zimmer is the contact czim39@gmail.com . You should speak with Rep. Jason Smith from Salem. Jason has been against prop B since the beginning. His mom runs one of the best kennels in the state. I know to well what the new laws have done. A friend of mine had no choice to sell out . She could not afford to make the new changes, and help with her daughter's cancer treatments. Now her income is gone ! Myself I have made the changes and applied for a 6 months exception on the constant unfettered access. A big problem I do have is my state inspector said my mamas with unweaned puppies only needed 5 sq ft, most of my adults need at least 16 sq ft. The reason is nursing/pregnant dogs are exempt from the space requirements...crazy !? On a postive note at the Iowa state fair...HSUS was booted out because of vulger language they had in the video clips.
Moon Babe

Gasconade, MO

#6772 Aug 16, 2012
DOGS RULE, thanks for the info. I do work with rescue. I also agree with you ! The rules are crazy and breeders such as yourself that is licensed...where given the shaft. A kennel that is flying under the radar (unlicensed) will continue with business as usual. I will contact Barb and get a group of us rescue people together. Thanks again !
curious george

Stover, MO

#6773 Aug 16, 2012
Moon Babe wrote:
DOGS RULE, thanks for the info. I do work with rescue. I also agree with you ! The rules are crazy and breeders such as yourself that is licensed...where given the shaft. A kennel that is flying under the radar (unlicensed) will continue with business as usual. I will contact Barb and get a group of us rescue people together. Thanks again !
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Thanks I am also in rescue and been given problems by new inspectors.
Breeder

Irving, TX

#6774 Aug 16, 2012
I've been a breeder for over twenty years , no license, nothing . I'm selling dogs BAU business as usual folks!
Moon Babe
#6775 Aug 16, 2012
@ Breeder if you are raising dogs in MO with no license...you will be caught , fined, and the dogs will be gone. They have put over 300 unlicensed breeders out of business since last year. If you are doing a good job , why risk it ? Or are you hiding something ?@ Curious George get a hold of your rescue contacts as well , please !
Ha Ha
#6776 Aug 16, 2012
DOGS RULE wrote:
Curious George not suprised by your statement about Hagler, Jean Stark the state vet also has close ties to HSMO. Remember both of them were appointed by Nixon himself. Agriculture in this state is being ran by animal rights activists. Barb York is the president of MPBA (Mo Pet Breeders). You can email Barb justcuz53@yahoo.com . There is a new MPBA chapter in west plains, mo. Casey Zimmer is the contact czim39@gmail.com . You should speak with Rep. Jason Smith from Salem. Jason has been against prop B since the beginning. His mom runs one of the best kennels in the state. I know to well what the new laws have done. A friend of mine had no choice to sell out . She could not afford to make the new changes, and help with her daughter's cancer treatments. Now her income is gone ! Myself I have made the changes and applied for a 6 months exception on the constant unfettered access. A big problem I do have is my state inspector said my mamas with unweaned puppies only needed 5 sq ft, most of my adults need at least 16 sq ft. The reason is nursing/pregnant dogs are exempt from the space requirements...crazy !? On a postive note at the Iowa state fair...HSUS was booted out because of vulger language they had in the video clips.
When you say your friend had to sell out, you are really talking about yourself. I am glad they took your license away because you are insane and only care about the tax free money you were making to live life in the fast lane. We heard you moved and are still watching you.
aur56
#6777 Aug 16, 2012
Disagree wrote:
<quoted text>Animals can fend for themselves in the wild, people domesticated them. If they are left alone long enough their instincts take over and they search out their own food and water. People on the other hand do not have animal instincts and have to be thought how to hunt and feed themselves in the wild. Unless, you count the CHIMPS in the GHETTO their natural instinct is to rob and steal from the whiteman, as well as rob and rape each other.
Animals in cages can't fend for themselves. You on the other hand are a racist and deserve what you get from the people you so clearly hate...
Ive Been There

Branson, MO

#6778 Aug 16, 2012
they treat dogs very well and most kennels are very cleen just because they show the nasty ones on tv dont mean there all like that... adn the this prob b thing isnt only about dogs is about horses cows goats chickens and any other animal... they are tricking you they want to make it to where you can only have so many animals of any kind and its a very low number ... our meet will be raised higher than ever if this lay is passed read about it you will see alot more things about it than just dogs ok those dogs and other animals are treated well enought atleast there not roaing the street there fed everyday and there cages are cleaned everyday and they have heat in the winter and air conditioning in the summer so think about what you do before you do it...
whatever
#6780 Aug 17, 2012
aur56 wrote:
<quoted text> Animals in cages can't fend for themselves. You on the other hand are a racist and deserve what you get from the people you so clearly hate...
No one ever said anything about animals in cages, except for the ones behind bars and they not only have 3 squares a day but also modern conviences of cable tv , internet, and congical visits..wtf? You are the racist here and an animal hater!
aur56

Aurora, MO

#6781 Aug 17, 2012
whatever wrote:
<quoted text>No one ever said anything about animals in cages, except for the ones behind bars and they not only have 3 squares a day but also modern conviences of cable tv , internet, and congical visits..wtf? You are the racist here and an animal hater!
What the hell are you even talking about on here.? i am not an animal hater by any standard, i have 4 dogs,all rescues, 3 cats all strays we found.All spayed and nuetered,well cared for pets. I am not a racist as my kids are both biracial,so your arguement is worthless and stupid. You might want to go away and find a forum that appreciates you narrow views...I stand by my original comment,YOU ARE AN IDIOT..
whatever
#6782 Aug 17, 2012
aur56 wrote:
<quoted text> What the hell are you even talking about on here.? i am not an animal hater by any standard, i have 4 dogs,all rescues, 3 cats all strays we found.All spayed and nuetered,well cared for pets. I am not a racist as my kids are both biracial,so your arguement is worthless and stupid. You might want to go away and find a forum that appreciates you narrow views...I stand by my original comment,YOU ARE AN IDIOT..
Those poor animals/children living with an animal abusing racist must be a daily challenge for them. My heart goes out to them, I only hope one day they will be able to make it on their own, you know wi the help of Uncle Sam and entittlements. Just hope for your and your kids sake Romney and Ryan don't get elected. So now that you have a black child does that make it alright to call him your BOY? just curious... I stand by my inital assesssment you are raging ahole. have a blessed day.
aur56

Aurora, MO

#6785 Aug 19, 2012
whatever wrote:
<quoted text>Those poor animals/children living with an animal abusing racist must be a daily challenge for them. My heart goes out to them, I only hope one day they will be able to make it on their own, you know wi the help of Uncle Sam and entittlements. Just hope for your and your kids sake Romney and Ryan don't get elected. So now that you have a black child does that make it alright to call him your BOY? just curious... I stand by my inital assesssment you are raging ahole. have a blessed day.
You are trolling on here,looking to stir things up,so this will be my last response to idiotic comments.By the way, my kids are adults, college graduates, tax paying citizens which is more than you can say about your family..we have NEVER taken dime of govt.assistance ,I doubt you can say that either. Now your racist attitude will be good company for you. Good luck wth your pathetic life,you'll need it.
aur56

Aurora, MO

#6786 Aug 19, 2012
old school wrote:
<quoted text>Great Post !!! Thanks for telling it like it is.!!!!!!!!!
Great Post also...
The bottom line

Saint Peters, MO

#6787 Aug 19, 2012
aur56 wrote:
<quoted text> Great Post also...
We dont need puppy mills or so called dog breeders. There are plenty of dogs created just thru the natural breeding process. A small breeder who has a few litters of pups a year is considered acceptable to me.( and there are plenty of them) I knew a lady who got busted with hundreds of breeder dogs that she used to supply her pet stores. It was all for profit and she claimed she made over a million dollars a year per store. Well the animal activist got involved and she was busted bad for all kinds of violations. They took her breeders license away for five years which really isnt that long. If you were to talk to her, she would say it is easy to take care of 150 to 399 dogs. Guess what though, it isnt easy and those animals are neglected, the animals are not shown any attention and actually suffer. She claimed that those dogs were in an air conditioned/heated enviroment. She is such a liar, her and her faimly were living life in the fast lane, going on long expensive vacations, buying expensive play toys and throwing money around like it was growing on tree's. They even started a fake rescue on the same property under her son's name and got caught and shut down. Channel 2 news finished them off. Here is the funny part. Her and her husband thought they were so much better than everyone else, that they both started having affairs on each other. He got caught a couple of times because his girfriends called his wife. She has been more fortunate because men dont tell, so she keeps him feeling bad about getting caught and she has learned to accept his cheating as long as he lies his way out of it. What a wonderful life to live.
Hope you enjoyed this thread, and I will admit I slept with her a few times but she is too messed up for me. I am big enough to know that the truth always comes out and realize it was nothing special because I was not the only man who she was gettin with.
Tony V

Denver, NC

#6788 Aug 19, 2012
HEY MISSOURI..........WHAT THE HELL YOU PEOPLE DOING OUT THERE???

...putting up retarded teabagger politicians talking about "legitimate rape"
aur56

Aurora, MO

#6789 Aug 19, 2012
Tony V wrote:
HEY MISSOURI..........WHAT THE HELL YOU PEOPLE DOING OUT THERE???
...putting up retarded teabagger politicians talking about "legitimate rape"
No different than what you people in Virginia are talking about. Virginia is the teabagger capital...
Hello

Saint Peters, MO

#6790 Aug 19, 2012
Tony V wrote:
HEY MISSOURI..........WHAT THE HELL YOU PEOPLE DOING OUT THERE???
...putting up retarded teabagger politicians talking about "legitimate rape"
Tony are you slghtly buzzed or do you have a big buzz going on right now. It appears you have posted your comments on the wrong thread.
aur56

Aurora, MO

#6791 Aug 19, 2012
Hello wrote:
<quoted text>Tony are you slghtly buzzed or do you have a big buzz going on right now. It appears you have posted your comments on the wrong thread.
Thank you for pointing that out, It just left me speechless almost..

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