Three die in apartment fire in Bonham

Mad Momma wrote:

Terrible accidents happen, even in your nice community!
Proud Tax Payer are you saying that Bonham is not a nice community? Funny how people start judging grammer and spelling and others communities instead of sticking to the issue at hand. I do have a question for the BFD tho. That is since they knew they only had 500 gallons of water on the truck and that this fire was out of control when they arrived on scene how come they didnt have someone hooking up to the hydrant while they were spraying the 500 gallons?

No, Proud Tax Payer is saying that tragedies happen in ALL nice communities, unfortunately, including Bonham. And, in answer to your other question, I can only guess that BFD was extremely busy trying to put out the fire as quickly as possible and save as many people as they could and were in fact shorthanded as many small town fire departments are. As I have said before, I believe the fire department did their best with what they had available and I wish people would stop with the finger pointing, guessing, and rumor-running mouths until the investigation is completed. I see your last word is never really your "last word".

Mad Momma wrote:

Terrible accidents happen, even in your nice community!
Proud Tax Payer are you saying that Bonham is not a nice community? Funny how people start judging grammer and spelling and others communities instead of sticking to the issue at hand. I do have a question for the BFD tho. That is since they knew they only had 500 gallons of water on the truck and that this fire was out of control when they arrived on scene how come they didnt have someone hooking up to the hydrant while they were spraying the 500 gallons?

I am not sure where you are getting your info, wait let me guess, is it from the two ignorant people that KXII interviewed? Water was being pumped almost immediately upon BFD arrival from 10th & Evans, W 7th & 121, and W 10th & 121.

And for those that keep thinking that the BFD arrived and did nothing while Ector and Ivanhoe did all the work (seriously that's what people are saying), you do realize that the Ector fire truck was set up at 7th & 121 to do traffic control and Ivanhoe brought a single truck for backup. And I am sure everyone involved appreciates all of the volunteer FD's that showed up assistance, I know I do, but enough with the nonsensical comments.

Nope Anonymous I am not getting my information from KXII I am getting it from others who were there and lost many possesions. If you had paid any attention to the fact that my daughter was one of the lucky ones to make it out alive (barely) and I say barely because as they were running away stuff was falling on them. I have never stated BFD was at fault I just want answers to the many questions I have. Evidence was lost when tenants were allowed into the building mere hours after the event and were allowed to move things out of their apartments within 24 hours after the fire & also allowed into the apartment were the family passed. This in itself is incorrect procedure of a "crime scene" as the building is now labeled. These seem to be facts that you keep avoiding talking about. What about the missing extingushers in the breezeways? Did you know about that. They were taken down after the fire marshal inspected the building this year and stored in the managers office. There were a lot of things done incorrectly on many different parts so I am sure there is blame to be laid on many different people.

No one was "allowed into the apartment where the family passed". First, the upstairs apartment they were in collapsed, secondly it was guarded until last Monday when the state fire marshall's office arrived. That is a fact, okay.

I am sorry that many people lost possesions and three lost their lives, it is terrible, words cannot do it justice, but I fail to see the point about the "missing fire extinguishers in the breezway". Why didn't the residents bring this up to management or the police or fire department earlier? I don't see why there is "blame to be laid on many different people". Who are all these people you feel deserve blame?

Hmm wonder how I was able to see pictures of the apartment then??

Oh and also I know for a FACT that residents were allowed back into the apartments mere hours later to retrive what they could carry. So maybe you should check out YOUR information as well.

Look, obviously you have some emotions that are fueling this nonsensical talk. In the apartment and area immediately adjoining it, there was no one in there until AFTER the investigation was concluded. I don't know how else to make that clear to you.

If you are talking about your daughter taking pictures and sending you of her apartment, she must have resided in a different area of the building, but I am sure you are about to say she lived right under the apartment that collapsed, right?

Ok I dont know how to make this clear to you but residents were allowed into their apartments within a few hours and the building was only guarded until daybreak after which time anyone could have entered the building until the state came to investigate. I know this because I was there. I also know those living across the hall were allowed to get items right after the fire. After the state went into the building and released it at 3pm the next day (24 hours later)residents were moving their belongings out. Residents were also allowed throughout the building regardless if the apartment collapsed or not. Obviously you are connected in some way to the fire department or city so you are biased and do not seem to see the facts in front of you. I see no point in further fueling your fire and discussing this any further with you.

Yeah, about like I figured. You know it all, you were there, but somebody sent you pictures, etc., etc., etc.

There's no need to continue the discussion, I agree. You only want to make up stuff like the tv stars that got on kxii.

Just a lot of bitching, moaning, making up stuff. No one can say what they thought should have been done different or better though!

Mad Momma: You obviously have no clue of SOP's (obviously not all FD's have the same sop's, but it does'nt vary a whole lot when we're discussing fire's) in the fire service regarding structure fire's, it makes you seem very ignorant when you spout off about thing's in which you have no earthly idea of what your talking about. Now go google what SOP's are so you can have somewhat of an idea as to what im talking about.
Quit looking for someone to blame, sometimes bad thing's happen that no one can control, it's a part of life. Im sure you will be getting the answers you've been waiting for soon, like a few people have said already, these kind of thing's take time. Until then, maybe you should hold off on posting, because with each new one i read from you, MY iq drops a little.

Ok I have never blamed anyone for the fire obviously your IQ was low before you started reading my posts. The original discussion started because I want answers and IF and that is a big IF someone is to blame they need to be held accountable. I dont give a rats ass about SOP's because I highly doubt allowing residents into a building a few hours after a fire is in most towns SOP's or leaving the building unattended from daybreak until 3pm when the fire marshal comes in. Or is this SOP for most towns? If so then SOP needs to be changed.

Obviously this "lady" doesn't understand and it's useless to carry on conversations with people like this.

So were you there like you said in one post or did your daughter send you pictures like you said in the other one?

MAD MOMMA needs to stop watching CSI.
Fire investigations can take months, and the person ( who does change her story frequently ) was screaming for answers and placing blame as soon as the news hit.

Wow, we All have questions and want answers, and want to place blame on someone. Sometimes this is how people deal with tragedies like this. But arguing and name calling is not going to get the answers, nor does it make anyone feel better. It adds more unnecessary drama to a situation that needs time to be worked out. Thank all of those who have been praying for us. It is truly appreciated.

Just for the record & I am finished feeding into the fire of those who seem to want to judge me for wanting answers. My daughter is not an adult she is an 11 year old child who was visiting at the apartments. So yes I have seen the things I stated in person and I have seen pictures of the rest in person. I dont have to justify to anyone how I feel about anything as everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And of course those close to the investigation will have theirs and those close to the victims will have theres. While the two will never match. For the record I also want to make clear to those who have their rope ready to hang me is I have never blamed anyone or anything I have only speculated on possibilities and brought attention to inconsistancies the media and others are releasing. So with all due respect Family of the victom I will do what my intention was several posts ago & exit this chat area. However if the Chesser family needs any information in the future after the "investigation" is completed I am sure I have some that will help them.

Unbelievable.

SOP = Standard Operating Procedures!
Let’s get that fact straight. If you feel that Bonham Fire is to blame go pull their SOP they would be happy for you to; they have done nothing but follow it to the LETTER. The same as the Fire Marshall and the State Fire Marshall Office. BFD SOP is also the same SOP that is used in BIG departments such as Plano FD / Dallas FD and Richardson FD. I know this for a FACT!
I understand that you are looking for someone to blame! Blame the management for moving the fire extinguishers. I think “Mad Momma” is missing the point. If it was my child that almost lost their live, I would be setting on the door step of the management office asking WHY they moved the fire extinguishers, not spending time on HERE taking your anger out on the departments that HELPED save your daughter. I would be down at the fire stations thanking them and giving them a BIG hug and saying “Thank You” for putting their lives on the line everyday to protect the citizens of the community!
Please remember these men and women have family also, and put their lives on the line everyday to protect everyone in the community no matter how stupid and/or ignorant YOU might think they are. These men and women that you are talking about have wives / husbands; daughters/sons; grandchild and fathers/mothers that pray they will come home every morning because they are out there protecting YOUR family.
One more point, you may also want to stop and thank the men and women of the law enforcement community for doing the same thing!
So, if no one on here will do it I will….
Thank You to the all the Fire Fighters / Police Officers / Fannin County Sheriff Deputy that were involved! May God Bless all of you and your families!

Mad Momma wrote:

Nope Anonymous I am not getting my information from KXII I am getting it from others who were there and lost many possesions. If you had paid any attention to the fact that my daughter was one of the lucky ones to make it out alive (barely) and I say barely because as they were running away stuff was falling on them. I have never stated BFD was at fault I just want answers to the many questions I have. Evidence was lost when tenants were allowed into the building mere hours after the event and were allowed to move things out of their apartments within 24 hours after the fire & also allowed into the apartment were the family passed. This in itself is incorrect procedure of a "crime scene" as the building is now labeled. These seem to be facts that you keep avoiding talking about. What about the missing extingushers in the breezeways? Did you know about that. They were taken down after the fire marshal inspected the building this year and stored in the managers office. There were a lot of things done incorrectly on many different parts so I am sure there is blame to be laid on many different people.

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You said it yourself! Like I said earlier I would be sitting on the door step of the people managing the apartment until I got answers about the missing and moved fire extinguishers! Sound like the managers of the apartment complex may play a big role in the blame!

Just got finished reading a few of your other articles about the “Black Lab Puppy Found” I truly believe you have an issue with all Bonham employees whether it be with Bonham Fire or Bonham PD. I noticed you spending a lot of time writing your treads.

I agree with daughter fire fighter. Thanks to all who helped and were there