Should church block Sebelius?

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frankhou77 wrote:

Its respectable that Gov. Sebelius knows better than to allow for an church to make her decisions.

Minnesota Mary wrote:

Perhaps when Gov. Sebelius approaches the priest distributing Communion, instead of saying, "Body of Christ," he should say to her-- "If you take this, you are guilty of a sin against the Lord's body and blood." These are the words used in 1 Corinthians 11:27.
It would be interesting to see if she follows through with reception of Communion.

Mike wrote:

Abortion is a constitutional right decided under a Republican president with a republican appointed justice writing the decideing vote.
Persecuting Sebelius who governs in a state where Catholics are not nearly the majority is funny. We do have a separation of religion and government and there is a reason for this.
Why don't the Catholics and their bosses worry about the state of their own souls?

Mike wrote:

Abortion is a constitutional right decided under a Republican president with a republican appointed justice writing the decideing vote.
Persecuting Sebelius who governs in a state where Catholics are not nearly the majority is funny. We do have a separation of religion and government and there is a reason for this.
Why don't the Catholics and their bosses worry about the state of their own souls?

Jack Corsaut wrote:

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The "Church" for several hundred years was groups of people meeting in private homes or wherever they could. there was no Catholic church. Taking Communion does not require the permission of a priest. The Catholic Church was started several hundred years after Christ said "Upon this rock I will build my Church". Christ said "Do this in remembrance of me", and so we do. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible about one denomination having control over who may partake of the lord's supper and who may not. There is a very stern warning, however, about adding or taking away ANYTHING from the Bible - the last words, actually.

Jack Corsaut wrote:

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Being complicit with such sin as she seems to be is one thing, taking communion in a way that does not please God is another. The message I gathered in post #4 is that communion has to be taken in a way that pleases a priest, not God. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God - and all should take the Lord's supper.

justice wrote:

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Then why does she continue to recieve the Catholic Sacrament of Holy Communion?.If she wishes to continue participating as a full member of the Church she must at least publicly abide by its teachings,regardless of her personal opinion.

Minnesota Mary wrote:

Perhaps when Gov. Sebelius approaches the priest distributing Communion, instead of saying, "Body of Christ," he should say to her-- "If you take this, you are guilty of a sin against the Lord's body and blood." These are the words used in 1 Corinthians 11:27.
It would be interesting to see if she follows through with reception of Communion.

Cpetr13 wrote:

As a public official. she is supposed to do what is right for ALL her constituents, not just what the R%CC wants her to do.

Cpetr13 wrote:

This is why we separate church and state; they cannot coexist without corrupting each other.
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Joseph Tyson wrote:

<quoted text>And no one is asking her to what the Church wants. You should not be so transparent. <quoted text>Nonsense.

Jack Corsaut wrote:

Where does admonishing the sinner go along with refusing to allow taking the Lord's supper appear in the Bible? It seems the Church sees communion as a reward when the Bible (Jesus) describes it as a path (a critical path) to redemption by remembering Him. Even sinner's should remember Christ and the incredible sacrifice He made and everything it means. I can't argue about the evil of the abortion industry, the rest sounds like the inventions of man - not the exact words in the new testament. If taking the Lord's supper brings a sinner to his/her knees I think that would be better than turning someone away to die in their sin. I don't see how turning one's face towards God - even the sinner's - could possibly bring further condemnation. The Bible talks about taking communion in a way not pleasing to God not that a person who's sin is not pleasing to God may not take communion.

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Cpetr13 wrote:

The church is clearly using coercive tactics to get her to toe the papal line, unless you think that she has no real interest in her faith.

WRONG! THE CHURCH IS TELLING SEBELIUS THAT HER IMMORTAL SOUL IS IN SERIOUS JEOPARDY AND THAT SHE IS GIVING SCANDAL TO CHRIST'S CHURCH.

How am I being "transparent"?
History shows time and time again that when religion is used as the basis for ruling the populace, injustice and inequity are the result. Fortunately, our constitution prevents churches from gaining too much of a foothold in the government. BTW--our elected officials are sworn to protect and honor the constitution and the laws, not any religion.
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Cpetr13 wrote:

The church is clearly using coercive tactics to get her to toe the papal line, unless you think that she has no real interest in her faith. How am I being "transparent"?
History shows time and time again that when religion is used as the basis for ruling the populace, injustice and inequity are the result. Fortunately, our constitution prevents churches from gaining too much of a foothold in the government. BTW--our elected officials are sworn to protect and honor the constitution and the laws, not any religion.
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Minnesota Mary wrote:

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The Church is not trying to dictate or coerce anyone. She is merely asking her members to choose Christ over the Prince of this World. Sometimes that means that a Catholic politician, who puts Christ first, will have to sacrifice a promising career in government, in order to be faithful to Christ and His Church. It's called taking up you cross and following Christ.
"No man can serve two masters; for he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will stand by the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon." Matthew 6:24

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Minnesota Mary wrote:

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The Church is not trying to dictate or coerce anyone. She is merely asking her members to choose Christ over the Prince of this World. Sometimes that means that a Catholic politician, who puts Christ first, will have to sacrifice a promising career in government, in order to be faithful to Christ and His Church. It's called taking up you cross and following Christ.
"No man can serve two masters; for he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will stand by the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon." Matthew 6:24

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reality check wrote:

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Crock of shit.
If the woman is to be a governor of ALL PEOPLE in her state, she has to take in to consideration that not all people believe in her/your myth.

YOU MEAN LIKE PONTIUS PILATE?

Personally, I think she should dump your hypocritical church, and if she insists on being a myth believer, find one of that many that will allow her to do her JOB, for all the people, and still be a "christian".