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Cold Case No More: Police Arrest Husband in Heartsong Murder

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BobSherin

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#604
Aug 25, 2009
 
In the interests Jake and Eli, Bob's children, the victim's family, as well and Bob and Suzye's, would hope this publicity ends. In turn, no book is planned from this quarter.

Unless there is something further, why don't we put this thread to bed?
cindy M

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#605
Sep 2, 2009
 

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Are you kidding me, he took a date to his sons wedding 3 months after the murder and married soon after. What a pig!!! He told co workers that he loved his freedom without his wife. Her journal stated that she was not happy for a long time prior to the murder. No one else had a motive, she wasn't reped or robbed. Clearly a crime of passion. I am shocked he got by with it.
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#606
Sep 3, 2009
 
BobSherin wrote:
First, Ed found the call unusual because Bob had never discussed personal matters; they had always talked business. Second, while Bob said he was on his way to Delray Mazda, he had actually already been there, left and was on his way home. And third, the whole day had been consumed with talk about the new Mazda for Toni because her leased Mazda had run its course. Yet to Ed Fitzgerald, Bob makes no reference to Toni, the Mazda now earmarked for Jake. Next day Bob canceled the deal.
48 Hours showed Bob on camera declaring he had always been faithful to Toni (while he declared piously, she had been unfaithful to him -- what a guy), when evidence in the case file says otherwise. While sexual infidelity is common, we're judging Bob's honesty and he's failing.
Well into the marriage with Suzye, Bob was still receiving a widower's exemption from the Palm Beach County Property Tax Assessor, a legal no-no. To cover Bob shortly before the trial, Suzye called in to change the situation when the fact surfaced in this thread. But before she did that, she claimed to this poster the exemption connected to her disability. A check of the rolls, however, showed that Suzye's name wasn't on the title, proving she had merely conjured that explanation. The exemption, I understand, is but a pittance, showing how far Bob went for a buck.
And let us not forget the moment Bob arrived home at 5 PM. He had told many of his anxiety for Toni's welfare after he had been unable to reach her by phone all afternoon. Does he rush to open the gate and run in to see if she's OK? No, he stops at the mailbox to collect the mail. If anyone of you were worried about your spouse, would you stop to gather the mail or rush in to see if your spouse were all right?
what's the big deal re: the phone to ed. the prosecutor surley did not elaborate on it. otherwise i am sure ed would had been called back to testify
BobSherin

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#607
Sep 8, 2009
 
wanda wrote:
<quoted text>what's the big deal re: the phone to ed. the prosecutor surley did not elaborate on it. otherwise i am sure ed would had been called back to testify
Wanda,

If you've been reading me, you know that, in my opinion, Assistant Prosecutor Burns did an inadequate job. This isn't the only salient evidence she missed.

She missed supporting the ear witness next door whose testimony had shifted before and at trial. That neighbor explained her conduct by saying she was afraid of Bob. A prosecutor worth his/her salt would have never left such an important witness bereft of credibility.

It would have been an easy matter to have introduced expert testimony on the effect fear has on such a witness in her senior years.

That witness had no other reason to shift her testimony than fear. Her testimony about feeling badly that she failed to come to Toni's aid was wholly believable. The detail she got into about what she was doing at the time she heard their argument was wholly believable.

All the jury had to hear was why the neighbor hadn't testified correctly from the start, and an expert witness on the psychology of witnesses in fear would have gone a long way to sealing the case.

There were a number of other things Burns did or didn't do that augered against a prosecution, for example carrying a knife before the jury (not the murder weapon) while intoning Bob knew how to use a knife. What a pitiful defeating display.

Did she meet the Defense's close, which was so effective in raising doubt? No, she read a prepared script that failed to address the defense's close.

I could go on and on, but let's just pull the plug on this thread.
wanda

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#608
Oct 19, 2009
 
are the police still looking for the murder or is the case closed again
georgia girl

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#609
Oct 19, 2009
 
they don't care any more, they have closed the case, the georgia police are still keeping the case open, it's a similar case which happened just after the florida. hopefully they will never give up till the catch the real murderer. we still get waiting to hear, my family was a victim too
BobSherin

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#610
Oct 20, 2009
 
wanda wrote:
are the police still looking for the murder or is the case closed again
Wanda,

From previous posts, you know, the jury returned a "not guilty" verdict. Not because they thought Bob innocent (they didn't) but because the evidence to convict wasn't sufficient to remove reasonable doubt.

Believing similarly, why would you ask if the Palm Beach Sheriff is pursuing this bankrupt case further?

Seems to me that in Wanda and Georgia girl, we're witnessing the Heartsong camp trying to muddy this authoritative thread's waters. The unbiased of North Palm Beach recognize the truth too.(See proximate previous posts.)
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#611
Oct 20, 2009
 
what if your wrong, and there still is a murder out there, i was told by georgia police this case and ours were very similar
BobSherin

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Oct 20, 2009
 
gerogia girl wrote:
what if your wrong, and there still is a murder out there, i was told by georgia police this case and ours were very similar
In every arena of knowledge but that which is defined as such, anything is always possible. None of us is all knowing, simply taking the facts and working with them as best we can.

Anyone wanting a deep appreciation of this case needs to go beyond TV and read this entire thread. As this thread's founder and as one whose opinion turned 180 degrees as he took it on the chin within, I think the thread is the most thorough and authoritative dealing with any contemporary crime.
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#613
Oct 30, 2009
 
heard they are reopening this case
BobSherin

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#614
Nov 2, 2009
 
georgia girl wrote:
heard they are reopening this case
Don't hold your breath, but if you've got competent information, please convey with specifics.
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#615
Nov 2, 2009
 
they another similar case in miami, and few more out in in state of washington, the fbi are getting involved, working on more details, could be a pattern, my family is bring in a private angency to follow up and forcce the police to to but more into the investigation
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Nov 5, 2009
 
georgia girl wrote:
they another similar case in miami, and few more out in in state of washington, the fbi are getting involved, working on more details, could be a pattern, my family is bring in a private angency to follow up and forcce the police to to but more into the investigation
Georgia Girl, Don't mean to get on your case but your rhetoric is hardly competent evidence -- rather oblique generalities. If several crimes are being viewed as a pattern, please specify the victims' names in each.

I happen to hold the opinion that the above is simply Heartsong obfuscation so this thread ends favorably for them. No way to be know sure, of course, so I'll follow up with Detective Springer or whoever else may have the case file.

The more facts you post here, the more answers you'll get in response unearthed in research. Expect a full report here.
Bob Sherin

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#617
Nov 7, 2009
 
Georgia Girl, Such a personal crime with Toni's eyes virtually erased, and you've got the FBI on this now as a patterned crime with others around the country.

I find no merit to your claims, nor does the oblique nature of your allegations inspire confidence in their truth.

Given names and cases, you can always take this the 119 route (the request for information of the Palm Beach County Sheriff with which we started)or you can reach the FBI through the federal freedom of information act.

Then give all of us the facts, as we're all eyes. Until then yet another attempt at obfuscation.
BobSherin wrote:
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Georgia Girl, Don't mean to get on your case but your rhetoric is hardly competent evidence -- rather oblique generalities. If several crimes are being viewed as a pattern, please specify the victims' names in each.
I happen to hold the opinion that the above is simply Heartsong obfuscation so this thread ends favorably for them. No way to be know sure, of course, so I'll follow up with Detective Springer or whoever else may have the case file.
The more facts you post here, the more answers you'll get in response unearthed in research. Expect a full report here.
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#618
Nov 10, 2009
 
similar case in 2001 elmer and joette thasher, there are more but police won't give me names in those cases, only info that involves my family
Bob Sherin

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Nov 11, 2009
 
gerogia girl wrote:
what if your wrong, and there still is a murder out there, i was told by georgia police this case and ours were very similar
Repeat your refrain, if you will, so-called Georgia girl.

To any reasonable reader, including the jury, it's all too clear for words. Not enough evidence presented by Burns to convict but enough to see clearly what happened, i.e. opportunity in the time line, marriage stress, ear witness, the alibi that wasn't (Toni's new Mazda that became Jake's before Bob's cancellation the next day), Bob's convoluted conversation with his business associate, Peter, after the murder, in which he claimed he was on the way to Delray Mazda when he had already been there, and especially his direct look into 48 Hours cameras with an air of sincerity where he claimed falsely to have driven straight to the Delray work site that day.(48 Hours was dishonest in presenting that clip, because it was privy to Bob's three police interviews where he contradicted his own on camera claim.)

Georgia Girl, this is your opportunity to follow your claims of FBI involvement and a patterned crime with facts. We're all awaiting the cases and names of victims that connect in your alleged pattern. For sure, no one is all knowing, but we need to deal with facts and not unidentified conversation among unidentified people.

When you see the heat I've taken at times for unintentional errors in my presentation, please present yourself with equal accuracy and specificity, so we can all mull the facts. Thanking you in advance.
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#620
Nov 12, 2009
 
not sure what you are talking about, all i know is police believe this could be a series of muderers, the details i have is just what i'm told, the police and fbi don't go into details about other crimes, they just tell us there are many similarities in a few cases, my thoughts are not to take a side on your case, but to hope to find out who hurt my family
i do know the brother of the victim is pushing to open the case, esp. after finding out the state got 13 million dollars for their cold case department, so if you really want to know more contact the brother, i know almost nothing of this case except that we were told of the similarities.

please stop talking down to me, i have done nothing to you, if you want more facts contact james deligio at the atlanta fbi, i don't feel it's my job to repeat to much on a blog, who knows maybe you could help them
BobSherin

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#621
Nov 13, 2009
 
If you're interested in another crime, why not start another thread? Let us all know where it is so we can join.

I know everything about this crime but nothing about the crime to which you refer -- and I always try to address everyone respectfully. If you gave us your real name, I wouldn't have the suspicion that your pseudonym, like others, is interposed to sully truth here.
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#622
Wednesday Dec 2
 
Georgia Girl first of all Bob Sherin doesn't know everything about this crime he just thinks he does. He should know the police or the FBI do not give out information on a open case!

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Thursday Dec 3
 
LArmstrong, On this one we agree: "Georgia Girl ... doesn't know everything about this crime(;) he just thinks he does." But for whatever it's worth, Lynda, the police and FBI do furnish information on open cases.

While I'm sure they redact crucial information, police in Florida respond to the public under the Sunshine Law, F.S. 119, redacting certain information, including that required by statute.

As you'll recall when the Heartsong case was open, I was able to obtain the entire police file, also the file on the DNA grant the Palm Beach Sheriff had obtained which led to a fresh look at Heartsong case. And we all see FBI reports on America's Most Wanted, as the show endeavors to track down wanted fugitives.
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