Birthers

I guess the SCOTUS rejection and Donald Trump both just ain't good enough for all you goofy righties. I think Joe has got some legal problems anyway.

Your righties are just like one of those sticky boogers you can't thump off your finger.

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Arpaio: Obama's Birth Certificate Definitely Forged Sheriff Joe announces new 'evidence' at press conference extravaganza.

http://politix.topix.com/government/1479-arpa...

Dude, you are on a role. Keep up the good work.

waltzing matilda wrote:

hussein is a muslim nutjob

He is no more a Muslim than he is a Christian

Obama's grandmas both say he was born in Kenya, his black Muslim grandma and his white communist grandma that raised him mostly. Oh, that's right, he paid a visit to his white communist grandma in 2008 when she was telling the press he was born in Kenya and she died so now she just used to admit he was born in Kenya. It's a matter of record, the liberal nut sacks just don't talk about it.

obamaworshipersarenuts wrote:

Obama's grandmas both say he was born in Kenya, his black Muslim grandma and his white communist grandma that raised him mostly. Oh, that's right, he paid a visit to his white communist grandma in 2008 when she was telling the press he was born in Kenya and she died so now she just used to admit he was born in Kenya. It's a matter of record, the liberal nut sacks just don't talk about it.

Would you if you were them? Listen, if you truly believe he was born in Kenya, you have to ask yourself if anything will be done about it. I say nothing will. If he wins reelection, you may see renewed interest. Otherwise, you are raising your blood pressure and may have the death panels scrutinizing you a little more when all aspects of Obamacare is in effect.

Whole Brain Thinker wrote:

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He is no more a Muslim than he is a Christian

You're stupid, lying, or both.

Whole Brain Thinker wrote:

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Would you if you were them? Listen, if you truly believe he was born in Kenya, you have to ask yourself if anything will be done about it. I say nothing will. If he wins reelection, you may see renewed interest. Otherwise, you are raising your blood pressure and may have the death panels scrutinizing you a little more when all aspects of Obamacare is in effect.

Death panels?!!!!?

HA!

And as soon as President Obama implements Sharia Law you will have your head chopped off.

Left Brain Thinker wrote:

<quoted text>Death panels?!!!!?

HA!

And as soon as President Obama implements Sharia Law you will have your head chopped off.

And why would that happen? Because I am an outspoken black woman?

Whole Brain Thinker wrote:

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And why would that happen? Because I am an outspoken black woman?

I have no idea if you are a black woman or not. Certainly can't prove that by me.

he's for himself and anybody that gets him where he wants to be and he's against anybody who tells the truth about him and tries to stop his criminal behavior, favors all things Muslim, hates all things American, and is shafting Israel

God's going to get him for that

The law in Hawaii allowed for a child born outside the state- as long as the parents resided in the state - to register their child born out of state/country... To receive a BC from Hawaii.. Therefore making them a citizen of Hawaii/ USA

obamaworshipersarenuts wrote:

Obama's grandmas both say he was born in Kenya...

Among those on television who’ve been covering the sudden public resurgence of the Birther movement — but in a much more responsible way than Lou Dobbs — is MSNBC’s Chris Matthews. The other day, he beat up pretty badly on Rep. John Campbell, R-Calif., who’s a co-sponsor of the “Birther bill” that would require future presidential candidates to provide proof of their natural-born citizenship. Thursday, he hosted Watergate burglar turned radio host G. Gordon Liddy, who’s fallen under the Birthers’ sway.

Liddy himself looked decidedly unwell, and sounded out of sorts — even Matthews seemed to realize that making him into a piñata would be unsporting. I’m not going to do it either, but you can watch the video below.

I’m posting on the appearance, though, because of something Liddy said during it:”You’ve got a deposition, which is a sworn statement, from the step-grandmother, who says,‘I was present and saw him born in Mombasa, Kenya.’”

Liddy got this particular myth a little garbled, but it’s a favorite of the Birthers’. I’ve covered it before, but it’s worth posting on now, I think, because cable news is just getting back to this story (there was some coverage late last year, when the Supreme Court declined to hear one of the Birther lawsuits) and hosts like Matthews don’t know all the crazy twists of the conspiracy theory well enough to knock them down.

What Liddy was referring to is actually an affidavit filed by a street preacher named Ron McRae, who conducted an interview with Sarah Obama, the second wife of President Obama’s grandfather, through a translator.(Sarah Obama is not the president’s biological grandmother, but he calls her “Granny Sarah.”)

In that interview, Sarah Obama does in fact say at one point that she was there for her grandson’s birth. But that was a mistake, a confusion in translation. As soon as a jubilant McRae began to press her for further details about her grandson being born in Kenya, the family realized the mistake and corrected him. And corrected him. And corrected him.(The audio is available for download here.)

No matter, though, because people who believe in a conspiracy theory simply hear what they want to hear. So some Birther sites have posted transcripts and YouTube clips that end abruptly with the mistranslation and don’t include the corrections. McRae, for his part, included the full translation in his affidavit — he thinks it’s all just part of the conspiracy.“Some few younger relatives, including [translator Vitalis Akech Ogombe],” McRae wrote in his court filing,“have obviously been versed to counter such facts with the common purported information from the American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii.”

Here’s the conversation:

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

http://www.salon.com/2009/07/24/liddy/

vocal minority wrote:

The law in Hawaii allowed for a child born outside the state- as long as the parents resided in the state - to register their child born out of state/country... To receive a BC from Hawaii.. Therefore making them a citizen of Hawaii/ USA

There are lot of cases of US citizens being born outside the US. You can be born on a US flagship in international waters and be a US citizen. Obama is not one of those cases though. He was born in Hawaii.

Left Brain Thinker wrote:

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I have no idea if you are a black woman or not. Certainly can't prove that by me.

I'll let your ignorance slide because you do not know me nor do I have any intention of providing proof of my gender or race. All you have is my posts.

Despite that, I agree with you that the concern with where Obama was born is moot because he has served 3 years already and has until November minimum in his presidency. I saw the various reports and nothing has been proven to contradict his birthplace except unfounded accusations.

I suggest that if ther is actual proof, then it needs to be provided otherwise, I believe the lobbyist issue is of greater concern.

Whole Brain Thinker wrote:

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I'll let your ignorance slide because you do not know me nor do I have any intention of providing proof of my gender or race. All you have is my posts.
Despite that, I agree with you that the concern with where Obama was born is moot because he has served 3 years already and has until November minimum in his presidency. I saw the various reports and nothing has been proven to contradict his birthplace except unfounded accusations.
I suggest that if ther is actual proof, then it needs to be provided otherwise, I believe the lobbyist issue is of greater concern.

Oh, well, if you say so we can all consider the matter closed. Your opinion is always better than eye witness testimony or hard core documentation, after all.

Now, how about you tell us all what the effect is of his being born of two communist parents, as well as his early Muslim upbringing, as well as there being no definitive record of what he claims is his past, nobody who knew him at school (except for one guy they found willing to lie for $$$), etc. I don't know why so many smart people have wasted so much time and energy and money looking into all of the criminal actions of Obama when all they had to do was asks you.

obamaworshipersarenuts wrote:

Obama's grandmas both say he was born in Kenya, his black Muslim grandma and his white communist grandma that raised him mostly. Oh, that's right, he paid a visit to his white communist grandma in 2008 when she was telling the press he was born in Kenya and she died so now she just used to admit he was born in Kenya. It's a matter of record, the liberal nut sacks just don't talk about it.

Rush Limbaugh's own Mother said he dropped out of college because "He flunked everything".

What's your point?

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Oh, well, if you say so we can all consider the matter closed. Your opinion is always better than eye witness testimony or hard core documentation, after all.
Now, how about you tell us all what the effect is of his being born of two communist parents, as well as his early Muslim upbringing, as well as there being no definitive record of what he claims is his past, nobody who knew him at school (except for one guy they found willing to lie for $$$), etc. I don't know why so many smart people have wasted so much time and energy and money looking into all of the criminal actions of Obama when all they had to do was asks you.

You raise some good questions so let me answer them for you.

Firstly, I gave my opinion. You can think what you want about it. Just like the current House voting over and over to repeal knowing they will not get anywhere with it while not actually doing anything. Basically, it wastes time and takes focus off of real issues.

Second, I saw video of Obama at Harvard. Sure, he may have had teachers and mentors that he gravitated to based upon common belief. Take Rev. Wright as an example of that.

Thirdly, ther are lots of people that were unmemorable during their formative school years. Should that be used as evidence that they were never there? No.

Fourthly, It is well known about the political leanings of his father, mother, grandmother, pastor, law professors, mentors and advisors... so why is it a suprise now?

Did I support Obama in '08? You bet your ass I did, because as a black woman, I felt it was time for representation in the highest office. Considering who ran against him, we would not have been much better off than we are now. McCain, while a hero, is also a liberal in disguise.

Romney is a better candidate this election cycle.

Whole Brain Thinker wrote:

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I'll let your ignorance slide because you do not know me nor do I have any intention of providing proof of my gender or race. All you have is my posts.

You don't need to try to prove your gender ot race to me. You couldn't if you tried. I already know as much about you as I need to know. I know that you have been posting about being a black woman for 2 days now. I know you first started posting comments and dropping sublime ineundo about being a black woman. I know that without anyone otherwise inquiringly about it you kept on posting until you made a full blown declaration that you are a black woman.

That's all I or anybody else needs to know.

Left Brain Thinker wrote:

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You don't need to try to prove your gender ot race to me. You couldn't if you tried. I already know as much about you as I need to know. I know that you have been posting about being a black woman for 2 days now. I know you first started posting comments and dropping sublime ineundo about being a black woman. I know that without anyone otherwise inquiringly about it you kept on posting until you made a full blown declaration that you are a black woman.
That's all I or anybody else needs to know.

So what's the point? Some of those posts were in topics specific to interracial dating which I have insight on. It wasn't to build a reputation, it was to provide commentary.

I never claimed to be something I am not.

Whole Brain Thinker wrote:

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So what's the point? Some of those posts were in topics specific to interracial dating which I have insight on. It wasn't to build a reputation, it was to provide commentary.
I never claimed to be something I am not.

Just as I said. I already know everything about you that I need to know. So you might as well quit trying. Anybody else that reads this thread knows it too.