Proposed bill: Pass drug tests or lose benefits

Trog wrote:

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You are clueless. In many major cities you can and will be removed from public housing if you even allow someone to possess drugs in your domicile.

Sure, but in order to find drugs in your housing THEY NEED A WARRANT.

Punishing someone for committing an illegal act is legitimate. Depriving someone of their constitutional rights is not.

Trog wrote:

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There is nothing illegal about requiring a drug test to receive government funding. A DUI checkpoint is a search without probable cause.

It's perfectly legal for an officer to stop every car that passes a given point, informing the driver that they're watching for drunk drivers, and asking the driver to pass along that information to friends.

And if the driver has alcohol on his breath, the officer has probable cause for conducting a field sobriety test. Or if the driver consents, the officer can conduct a field sobriety test.

If the officers stop EVERY driver passing a point and give them ALL field sobriety tests, that's illegal, and courts regularly throw out all those tickets.

Trog wrote:

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On the other hand, I agree that all city, state, and federal workers should be drug tested just like the private sector.

Except that MOST private sector workers are NOT drug-tested.

The "no search without probable cause" rule amounts to "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." That's a pretty good rule to follow.

Harl Delos wrote:

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Perhaps we should have a spelling test for voting. If you can't spell "teat", and you don't know the proper pronunciation of that word is "tit", then you don't get to vote.
What would you do about the many people who need assistance because of their medical problems, who would not pass a screening test because of drugs which are legally and quite appropriately prescribed for them?

First sorry for the misspelling. typing from an iphone is easier with small fingers.

The same thing employers do when workers are on Rx drugs during screenings. As long as the person being tested discloses the use of a legal Rx everything is fine.

Bruno Tam wrote:

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No because it's not a civil matter . And besides all you have to do is say NO .

The welfare recipient can say not too. of course they will also lose the assistance.

Simple way around all this. When you sign up for assistance you sign a paper stating you will submit to random testing. Very legal and easy to do. You don't like it then you simply don't sign up for assistance.

Harl Delos wrote:

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Nobody takes your job away from you if you can't pass the physical. It's just that if you are incapable of performing the job safely, you are incapable of performing the job safely.
On the other hand, you're proposing to take food stamps away from people who are perfectly capable of fulfilling the requirements of the food stamp program.
Can't you see the difference?

This would change the requirements. Meet all the criteria AND submit to random testing.

BTW if you are high as a kite are you preforming you job as a parent? I don't think so.

---Man in Black--- wrote:

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This would change the requirements. Meet all the criteria AND submit to random testing.
BTW if you are high as a kite are you preforming you job as a parent? I don't think so.

I never got a paycheck for being a parent. If it's a job, somebody owes me a boatload of back pay.

In this day and age we are faced more and more with drug testing. Whether it's receiving government benefits or obtaining a job.

http://www.passadrugtest.com/complete.html

Considering the amount of taxpayer dollars given to illegals for health care, education, etc. etc.,if this were to become law, these should be the 1st people tested. I'd much rather have these dollars spent on helping the homeless. I've come in contact with homeless people that are begging for jobs on street corners while illegals benefit from taxpayers hard earned wages while living from paycheck to paycheck to support their families. While having their jobs shipped overseas so the CEO's are guaranteed their million $ bonuses. If the government shutdown had taken place, our congress people would have been unaffected in any way while vacationers in national parks would have been forced to leave. If you truly want to live the good life, run for political office. You'll be set for life no matter how you do your job. Only In America..WHAT A COUNTRY!