Who do you support for Governor in Wisconsin in 2010?

patchcat wrote:

Walker is my choice...first guy to stand up to the unions on collective bargaining. What other jobs can you renegotiate your salary halfway thru a year when the budget is already out or go on strike. I know my company would toss me out if I stomped in the office and demanded to renegotiate my work package! And it is about time they start paying a little of their benefits: my sister has a job at the loacal community college and it is unbeleivable the benefits she gets my taxes are paying for...its sickening. Guess I should have gone into teaching instead. What is more ridiculous is the money being spent on a recall..this guy did nothing wrong compared to most bozos in office...nothing criminal, no derelection of duty, and now people dont like him cause he took some of their perks away?! Get a fxckin life and start paying your fair share!

1) I'm not a union member... never been. I don't like Walker because he's a hypocritical liar. I'm born and raised in Milwaukee, WI. I know what he was about when he served in office here. He's denying it all now and blaming in on what should have been his partner. Maybe, if he'd been a team player here rather than going only for self, he wouldn't be involved with the John Doe investigation now.

2) Your sister chose an occupation you did not choose. Why didn't you go into teaching? Did you not want to start at the crap pay she did? I'm going to go out on a limb and point out SHE IS A TAXPAYER TOO. Are you also disgusted by service members and veterans? I mean, service members PAY ZERO into their benefits... whether or not they serve in a combat situation. They pay home state taxes, but no federal taxes. All veterans can receive benefits at reduced prices. Who do you think is picking up the rest of the tab for that?

3) I can approach my employer any time to discuss a renegotiation of pay... and I work in the private sector. Your overly dramatic description of renegotiations is political spin.

4) Walker didn't stand up to unions. He back-doored them. He bought the police/fighters and concrete workers unions. He stated publicly he work with unions, while describing "divide and conquer" tactics in back room with billionaires. I don't want a red or blue state. I want a free state.

The Man wrote:

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Walker continues to provide his crony capitalist campaign donors massive tax breaks. Tax breaks to people who seem incapable of creating jobs.

I thought you were talking about the working poor. You should stay on the same issue. If you jump around like that you will never learn anything.

For Democrats, the recall defeat of Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker on June 5th is supposed to be a precursor to Barack Obama’s landslide re-election victory in November. Not so fast. Scott Walker, who faced token opposition last night in the primaries, won 97% of the Republican vote, garnering more votes than both of the top Democratic candidates combined. He actually pulled in almost as many votes as were cast in the Democratic primary altogether. Not a very good sign for Unions and Democrats who will face Walker for real on June 5th.

Dee Lay wrote:

For Democrats, the recall defeat of Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker on June 5th is supposed to be a precursor to Barack ObamaÂ’s landslide re-election victory in November. Not so fast. Scott Walker, who faced token opposition last night in the primaries, won 97% of the Republican vote, garnering more votes than both of the top Democratic candidates combined. He actually pulled in almost as many votes as were cast in the Democratic primary altogether. Not a very good sign for Unions and Democrats who will face Walker for real on June 5th.

Walker should win with the same majority of voters that put him in the first place. This whole recall thing was a big waste of time & money. We just have to watch out the dems trying to cheat.

Dee Lay wrote:

... Scott Walker, who faced token opposition last night in the primaries, won 97% of the Republican vote, garnering more votes than both of the top Democratic candidates combined. He actually pulled in almost as many votes as were cast in the Democratic primary altogether. Not a very good sign for Unions and Democrats who will face Walker for real on June 5th.

I thought we were done with this erroneous fuzzy math.

Walker received 626,538 votes

All the Democratic votes combined come to 670,278... add to that number the 19,920 for Kohl-Riggs, whom we know is a Democrat, and the final number is 690,198 votes. If you give those 19,920 votes to Walker... he still loses.

Considering he believes the majority of Wisconsinites are in favor of what he's done, I'd say he and his supporters need to worry.

690,198 - 626,538 = 63,660 people Walker needed to turn his way... and failed.

Remember, in reality Walker was the only choice for Republicans in the primary. Democrats had several, and turned out in greater numbers. Don't put a neat spin on it... unless your plan is to bring more Dems and Independents out in June.

PR and Proud wrote:

<quoted text>I thought we were done with this erroneous fuzzy math.

Walker received 626,538 votes

All the Democratic votes combined come to 670,278... add to that number the 19,920 for Kohl-Riggs, whom we know is a Democrat, and the final number is 690,198 votes. If you give those 19,920 votes to Walker... he still loses.

Considering he believes the majority of Wisconsinites are in favor of what he's done, I'd say he and his supporters need to worry.

690,198 - 626,538 = 63,660 people Walker needed to turn his way... and failed.

Remember, in reality Walker was the only choice for Republicans in the primary. Democrats had several, and turned out in greater numbers. Don't put a neat spin on it... unless your plan is to bring more Dems and Independents out in June.

Don't forget all of the Republicans that voted for Falk subtract those and add it to Walker. You can't assume that all of the Fem votes will go to Barrett. You can't also assume all of the votes for the fake Rep candidate will go to Barrett. Either way the point was that Walker did very well considering there was less motivation for Republicans to vote than Dems. You were selecting a candidate the Republicans were just showing support. Another good sign is that all the Dems combined even with your fuzzy math didn't equal the number of signatures. This shows it's easier to get someone to sign a paper so you leave them alone when they are trying to shop than it will be to get them to vote.

Jaredb8 wrote:

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Don't forget all of the Republicans that voted for Falk subtract those and add it to Walker. You can't assume that all of the Fem votes will go to Barrett. You can't also assume all of the votes for the fake Rep candidate will go to Barrett. Either way the point was that Walker did very well considering there was less motivation for Republicans to vote than Dems. You were selecting a candidate the Republicans were just showing support. Another good sign is that all the Dems combined even with your fuzzy math didn't equal the number of signatures. This shows it's easier to get someone to sign a paper so you leave them alone when they are trying to shop than it will be to get them to vote.

I can't assume a Democrat voter will vote for a Democrat candidate? What are you on about?

The fake Republican candidate is universally recognized as being a Democrat. Had Walker supporters not shown up for the primary, Walker wouldn't be on the June ballot. Supporters needed to show up or risk a little known Democrat going up against a well known Democrat in the recall election. It isn't that hard to grasp. I didn't claim those votes ought to be attributed to Barrett... I added them to the Democrat votes.

The original point... made repeatedly... is ERRONEOUS. The original point... made repeatedly... is Walker received more votes than all Democrat candidates combined. It's ERRONEOUS. The amended point... Walker garnered nearly as many votes... is not necessarily erroneous, it's silly. Second place is the first place loser.

PR and Proud wrote:

<quoted text>I can't assume a Democrat voter will vote for a Democrat candidate? What are you on about?

The fake Republican candidate is universally recognized as being a Democrat. Had Walker supporters not shown up for the primary, Walker wouldn't be on the June ballot. Supporters needed to show up or risk a little known Democrat going up against a well known Democrat in the recall election. It isn't that hard to grasp. I didn't claim those votes ought to be attributed to Barrett... I added them to the Democrat votes.

The original point... made repeatedly... is ERRONEOUS. The original point... made repeatedly... is Walker received more votes than all Democrat candidates combined. It's ERRONEOUS. The amended point... Walker garnered nearly as many votes... is not necessarily erroneous, it's silly. Second place is the first place loser.

Well if you want to look at it in depth look at the contrast of votes for lt. Gov to those for Gov. It shows a wide gap and the only explanation is Rep voters voting for Falk. Your comment about second place being the first loser that's correct Walker got more votes than anyone. So that makes Barrett the first loser. Bring on the trolley man he will lose AGAIN to Walker.

Look I really don't care for Tom Barret...But and it's a huge kind of BUT....Walker is a F-nightmare gone wrong for Wisconsin!
The worst Governor we have ever had period!

He took away the Unions rights to barging...and you right wing nuts made it more about getting more money and benefits and that's pure bullshit!
It was never about that in the first place!

People in Unions should have the right to bargen with the State and when you mess with union families your messing with Wisconsin's economy and way of life for the middle class you pricks on the right can go eat shit!

Tom Barret will not spend Wisconsin into debt...voters will not put up with bullshit from either party...so he too could be recalled if he starts to do stupid things!
I don't believe he will though...And don't give me your Milwaukee figures of him running Milwaukee city either...it's all old news!
Blow it out your nose!
Governor Walker also is taking women rights away with health care for there kids and health care choices...Scum Bag would only do that!
Don't like what I have to say...I could care less!

Good post, heypal.

Tim wrote:

Doyle is the worst governor we ever had, and Barrett is his clone. Why is it the working man has to tighten his belt, when government doesn't even try to tighten theirs? Spend, spend, spend, Stop it already!

Well, well, well... After yesterday's vote in Wisconsin's recall election in the books. In case no one has been following this. I'll clue you in.

The unions have spent close to 100 million dollars trying to get rid of Walker. What they got for their trouble on election day was more people came out an voted for Walker than both liberals combined. Even though the republicans din't need to vote, they decided to let the liberals know they weren't going anywhere.

What that means is Walker will be running against the same person he beat the shit out of to begin with.

LMAO! Ain't that brilliant. That's even more funny than the 10 million they pissed away trying to beat Blanch Lincoln in Arkansas in 2010

Indiana proved 2 things yesterday. Obama ain't winning Indiana this time and the "Tea Party" is alive and well. That's why the liberals have been mourning all day.

The folks in North Carolina continued the national )trend 31 out of 32) of states overwhelmingly saying NO TO SAME SEX MARRIAGE!

Now, here comes Obama saying he supports Gay Marriage. No Shit? I knew that 5 years ago. And, what really gave it away is when you shirked your constitutional duty to defend DOMA.

Of course, that wasn't the real reason. The big money h*m*s in California closed their checkbook to Obama... Obama is struggling to raise money. Corporate America has cut his ass off.

Speaking of DOMA... Here we got Bubba Clinton in North Carolina defending and promoting Gay Marriage... Hey Bubba! You're the man who came up with DOMA! WTF?

And, last but no least the hard left is freaking out because the Democratic National Convention is being held in North Carolina.

You can't make the stuff up.

Here comes the gays, lesbians, Transgenders (that sounds like a gay credit reporting agency) and all the other "Useful Idiots" to North Carolina to spend money with all these gun toting rednecks.

Heypal wrote:

Look I really don't care for Tom Barret...But and it's a huge kind of BUT....Walker is a F-nightmare gone wrong for Wisconsin!
The worst Governor we have ever had period!

He took away the Unions rights to barging...and you right wing nuts made it more about getting more money and benefits and that's pure bullshit!
It was never about that in the first place!

People in Unions should have the right to bargen with the State and when you mess with union families your messing with Wisconsin's economy and way of life for the middle class you pricks on the right can go eat shit!

Tom Barret will not spend Wisconsin into debt...voters will not put up with bullshit from either party...so he too could be recalled if he starts to do stupid things!
I don't believe he will though...And don't give me your Milwaukee figures of him running Milwaukee city either...it's all old news!
Blow it out your nose!
Governor Walker also is taking women rights away with health care for there kids and health care choices...Scum Bag would only do that!
Don't like what I have to say...I could care less!

What Womens rights did he take away? Are you misinformed about that too?

Gov. Walker and major corporations want to silence the voice of labor across Wisconsin and continue trying to crush the middle class,"

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crushing the middleclass, the middleclas which buys goods ans services.

Another Great George Bush depression just around the corner.

Walker dosnt even have a college degree, I bet he would run home all excited yelling,,, look mom, I got an F.

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Recall him.

vote Democrat for a healthy middle class.

‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying,‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them,‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left,‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying,‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying,‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’

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BadgerCare 65,000 Wisconsinites losing coverage including 29,000 children

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The least of our brethren.

Jaredb8 wrote:

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Well if you want to look at it in depth look at the contrast of votes for lt. Gov to those for Gov. It shows a wide gap and the only explanation is Rep voters voting for Falk. Your comment about second place being the first loser that's correct...

The only explanation is Rep voters voting for Falk?! Did they also vote for the other people on the ballot?

I'll expect to see Walker winning by no less than 250,000 votes next month.

Why is it so difficult to admit what other Walker supporters here have admitted. Fuzzy math was reported. There is a lot more to do... ON BOTH SIDES... before the June election.

PR and Proud wrote:

<quoted text>The only explanation is Rep voters voting for Falk?! Did they also vote for the other people on the ballot?

I'll expect to see Walker winning by no less than 250,000 votes next month.

Why is it so difficult to admit what other Walker supporters here have admitted. Fuzzy math was reported. There is a lot more to do... ON BOTH SIDES... before the June election.

I was just pointing out how stupid the post I replied to was. That person assumed that every vote will go to Barrett.

Look at these hypocrites that signed the recall!!
http://www.putwisconsinfirst.com/taxdelinquen...

Well, I'm glad someone took the time to do this!.... So if you delete these fom the 900,900+ signatures on the recall, it's still WAY over the 540,000 needed. A relative of mine is on the Ozaukee Co board, and in this heavy republican county alone, the list of late, or unpaide taxpayers is longer than that....What's you'r point.

Wendy wrote:

Well, I'm glad someone took the time to do this!.... So if you delete these fom the 900,900+ signatures on the recall, it's still WAY over the 540,000 needed. A relative of mine is on the Ozaukee Co board, and in this heavy republican county alone, the list of late, or unpaide taxpayers is longer than that....What's you'r point.

I'm not saying anything about the number of signatures. I'm just pointing out the type of people that think we should have paid the teachers benefits and signed the recall. Some of them aren't current on their taxes but want government to spend more that's hypocritical.

Walker Administration Budget Cuts to Wisconsin Families, Seniors, Poor, Children, Students, Unemployed, Disabled and Others Over Biennium 2012-2013
Program Budget Cuts Who It Affects
University of Wisconsin system $250 million Students
Technical colleges $70 million Students
K-12 public schools $834 million Students
Local government programs (various)$139 million Slower services, smaller staff, cutbacks
Department of Corrections $53 million Public safety
Low-income tax relief $49 million Poor population
Medicaid programs $500 million Seniors, poor
Public transportation programs $49 million Seniors, poor, children, students, disabled, others
Wisconsin Shares-Child Care Support $224 million Poor, children
BadgerCare 65,000 Wisconsinites losing coverage including 29,000 children Seniors, poor, children, students, disabled, others
FoodShare Program Supplemental Funds $380,000 Seniors, poor, children, students, disabled, others
FamilyCare $84.9 million
(pending federal legal actions) Seniors, poor, children, students, disabled, others
SeniorCare Major damage to program structure Seniors, disabled, others
Family Planning Services for Men $73,200
(ending program) Poor population
Tobacco Control Program $685,000 Wisconsin citizens
Mental Health $1 million Wisconsin citizens
Rural health dental clinics $300,500 Seniors, poor, children, students, disabled, others
Income Support Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC)$41 million Seniors, poor, children, students, disabled, others
Transitional Jobs Program
$17 million
(ending program) Seniors, poor, students, disabled, others
Homestead Tax Credit $8 million Wisconsin citizens
Head Start $12.5 million Poor, children
High Poverty Aid $3.74 million Seniors, poor, students, disabled, others .
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Walker Tax Breaks for Top 1% Investor Class and Political Contributors .
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Source: Wisconsin Department of Administration and Legislative Fiscal Bureau budget documents.
Steal from the poor and give to the rich, how stupid are the middleclass voters that support scott walker
Walker Tax Breaks for Top 1% Investor Class and Political Contributors .
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Group Tax deductions/loopholes Who pays
Corporations
$177 million Wisconsin, paid for by the citizens
Investors $36 million Wisconsin, paid for by the citizens
Source: Wisconsin Department of Administration and Legislative Fiscal Bureau budget documents.
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Good for you Walker supporters, starve the poor and give tax breaks to the rich and your republican billionaire contributers.
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BadgerCare 65,000 Wisconsinites losing coverage including 29,000 children
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Walker Administration Budget Cuts to Wisconsin Families, Seniors, Poor, Children, Students, Unemployed, Disabled and Others Over Biennium 2012-2013
Program Budget Cuts Who It Affects
The least of our brethren.