Dead beat dads that should be neutered

Scooter wrote:

<quoted text>. But there are always three sides to a story...

Correct there are 3 sides to a story {yours, mine & the truth}
Naturally, dear Mommy claims all is a lie.
But, the evidence was within MY SIGHT, and many others.
My son didn't win instantly,...it took over a year & a half, but, her biggest mistake, was failing to comply by state standards. Failing to attend one class, failing to submit to one drug test. Failing to show up at court proceedings. Failing to care.
Failure, did in fact cause her to lose 3 children
But, she failed long before we ever got to court, she failed at being a MOTHER!
And I must admit, because of 'being a mother, myself' I tried to help Mommy, I COULD NOT imagine a child without having a mothers love & affection & security. But no amount of money and no amount of help was enough, you can NOT make a person be a parent, it must come from within ones self.
The biggest hurdle my son had to overcome was being classified as being a 'sperm-donor'. By Florida Law an unmarried couple with child/ren- a father is consider a sperm-donor with NO LEGAL rights & the mother has FULL CUSTODY,..UNLESS a father has his RIGHTS established through a Court of Law...{and that does not mean it is automatically established by being ordered to pay support} and the stupidest thing to all of this, Dear Mommy called DCF to herself, as another lie, trying to provoke "ME"..but, along with her failed attempts of being a mother she also failed to realize "I" was not a dummy, and had proof...but, I am thankful for my grandchild, that she felt the need to provoke me, for our attempts before that day, was futile to say the least. And I am afraid to imagine where my grandchild would be today. Courts as you say, believe Dear Mommy is incapable of wrong doing, up against a father.
But, Karma just has away of Slapping You Right in the face.
NEVER EVER under estimate Grandma!!
And thanks for correcting my mistakes,..if only it was so simple of re-writing our mistakes....but, thanks again!

Cool Peppa wrote:

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The courts should remember this when they are giving one so much more control than the other when comes to the children. Non custodial parents can really get the shaft when the custodial parents wants to play games pertaining to the children. You know the "I'm still bitter because you left me so you can't see your children"
It becomes a real problem when the child become unmanageable then the custodial cries "I'm a single parent and he/she doesn't help me" That's why the kid is a total screw up!

I agree with you 100%.
But, often times, excuses are used as Mommy or Daddy wouldn't let me see you.
My husband had the same issue, only a case of "I don't want you, but, you can't have no one else."
YOU DID NOT stop my husband, he would show up and she would call the law, But as he said, "AT least my children will remember I was there, & I didn't stop until I got to see them."

I am sorry, but, I AM GOING TO SEE MY CHILD, if it takes MOVING Heaven & Hell, you was NOT stopping me from my child/ren!

But, in today's society, it is easier to say...oh, well what is the point, they aren't going to let me see them anyway.

THE POINT...This IS YOUR CHILD!!!

I am more worried about the emotionally affects of children 'caught in-between'...for it does tend to lead to problems in the future.

Julianna wrote:

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What's with the Queen's English? Just kidding.

In hopes the Shakespearean long-winded lingo will make the post sound more educated...blah, thouest blah, blah...

Julianna wrote:

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Are you kidding me?

Why would anyone is his or her right mind voluntarily become "legally" married when all that does is put him/her under the subjugation of he government, and become taxed even more heavily? Why should divorce be legal, if it makes a sham of marriage vows? If anything, there should be penalties for marriage vows broken.

MisPlaceD wrote:

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Courts as you say, believe Dear Mommy is incapable of wrong doing, up against a father.
But, Karma just has away of Slapping You Right in the face.
NEVER EVER under estimate Grandma!!
And thanks for correcting my mistakes,..if only it was so simple of re-writing our mistakes....but, thanks again!

I was happy to correct your mistakes - I did so in a loving way, and believe me, I'm sure my errors could be found quite easily as well and I would welcome correction.

I believe your side of the story - my "three sides' was simply making a point, the same point that could and should apply to whatever I, myself claim.

It's amazing that the courts are run essentially by men; the same sex that believes women are inferior to men. Yet who almost always side automatically with the women! I believe it's because men are always looking to charm women for reason that are beyond me. I admit that I am often allowing women more leeway than I do men, but thankfully, I'm not a judge or anything like that.

People need to remember that there are stockades for women a swell; obviously, not all women are innocent. In fact, a cop-friend of mine told me that about 50% of assaults in domestic-violence cases are committed by women, yet go unreported, because of men ashamed that they let a woman hit them. Go figure. Hell, you just tap a woman on the shoulder these days and it's considered to be battery!!

dawgs1 wrote:

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In hopes the Shakespearean long-winded lingo will make the post sound more educated...blah, thouest blah, blah...

I know better than to reply to you, but, for some reason can't refuse.
Are you so simple minded, that you intend to keep this frame of mind.
Dawgs1 have your field day with my comments, It will change nothing, nor will it scare me away.
Funny, I suppose you, yourself feel differently, than I, but, yet can't find a debate without bringing in others issues.
As it has been said,...there is always 3 sides.
And you don't know all sides, and from MY point of view, I do not see where you need to know anything.
The matter in which your comments hail from, should be handled by the parties concerned. Not yet another DA with nothing more than my writing skills or choice of words, to judge.
I only pray that you are BETTER than I, and that your children grow up and make better choices than MINE. And God forbid should any of your 'skeletons and family garbage ever make it to the Internet ways of life.' that you would ever feel, as I do.
Judge me, belittle me, if you want.
Sadly your control over my life has not made me a millionaire, nor paid my electric bill or made me a better person, nor removed me from the likes of being nailed as trailer-trash, by some one's comments. Sadly your comments have ...actually failed to do anything, including making yourself seem superior.
blah,blah blah....
have a good day....

MisPlaceD wrote:

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I know better than to reply to you, but, for some reason can't refuse.
Are you so simple minded, that you intend to keep this frame of mind.
Dawgs1 have your field day with my comments, It will change nothing, nor will it scare me away.
Funny, I suppose you, yourself feel differently, than I, but, yet can't find a debate without bringing in others issues.
As it has been said,...there is always 3 sides.
And you don't know all sides, and from MY point of view, I do not see where you need to know anything.
The matter in which your comments hail from, should be handled by the parties concerned. Not yet another DA with nothing more than my writing skills or choice of words, to judge.
I only pray that you are BETTER than I, and that your children grow up and make better choices than MINE. And God forbid should any of your 'skeletons and family garbage ever make it to the Internet ways of life.' that you would ever feel, as I do.
Judge me, belittle me, if you want.
Sadly your control over my life has not made me a millionaire, nor paid my electric bill or made me a better person, nor removed me from the likes of being nailed as trailer-trash, by some one's comments. Sadly your comments have ...actually failed to do anything, including making yourself seem superior.
blah,blah blah....
have a good day....

Drama Queen, bloweth it out thy ass.

dawgs1 wrote:

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Drama Queen, bloweth it out thy ass.

nothing to debate, huh?
Just an obsession with my arse, now.

But, I did try "to bloweth out thy ass", as you stated, but, your head is in the way!!!

And yes, Today I am Queen, You are Drama.......
But, I will loan you my crown, if you promise to wear it well....
Now promise...NO poo on the crown!!

LMAO~~~~
When you have something to debate, I will acknowledge you, until then...POO to You!!

Now run cryin'.....hurry now,..my time is almost done here....
{ you know the PO Po's are comin' for this poor-white-in-bred-trailer-tra sh-drama-queen}
{Don't think I can take on too many more names.}
Do yourself a favor...
Get over yourself...
And your info,...It is unbecoming to lower yourself to a standard raised by others.
Try setting your own standards, at least YOU will know WHAT you are fighting FOR!
DA!!!
I am done 4 now,..but, thankfully I will return so that you may have many many more comments that show your intelligence or your ability to let others control you,..which is it??

MisPlaceD wrote:

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nothing to debate, huh?
Just an obsession with my arse, now.
But, I did try "to bloweth out thy ass", as you stated, but, your head is in the way!!!
And yes, Today I am Queen, You are Drama.......
But, I will loan you my crown, if you promise to wear it well....
Now promise...NO poo on the crown!!
LMAO~~~~
When you have something to debate, I will acknowledge you, until then...POO to You!!
Now run cryin'.....hurry now,..my time is almost done here....
{ you know the PO Po's are comin' for this poor-white-in-bred-trailer-tra sh-drama-queen}
{Don't think I can take on too many more names.}
Do yourself a favor...
Get over yourself...
And your info,...It is unbecoming to lower yourself to a standard raised by others.
Try setting your own standards, at least YOU will know WHAT you are fighting FOR!
DA!!!
I am done 4 now,..but, thankfully I will return so that you may have many many more comments that show your intelligence or your ability to let others control you,..which is it??

get a life jerry springer addict.

MisPlaceD wrote:

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yes, and surprising...more fathers have custody today, than ever B4, My son is a single parent with custody of his child, and was given custody when my grandson was 2.{& to this day has NOT recieved $1 in child-support}
It has been almost 5 years and dear Mommy still seems to forget she has this child and 2 more that where, also taken.... And for a very educated woman,{term used loosely} she seems to believe 'she' is in control, of the world.
I am alot of things, but, I have tried my best, to raise my children to be responsible for their children,{male or female}. And if you want an azz-kicking all you have to do is 'forget for a moment' you have a child. I have NO PROBLEM reminding you!
But, I am biased, I will be the first to say it,
I have a harder time with women not being mommy's, than I do with men not being daddy's.
But, I suppose that comes from being a single parent raising my oldest 2 without Daddy around, and getting no support. But when you say "I DO", that is no guarantee that Daddy will be around to Do Anything....much less be a Daddy....BUT MOMMY should always be there....
naturally, I will be judged a clueless nut with spam,....
care for some spam-salad?

i had custody of my oldest..she is about to be 21 now..i have joint custody of my middle daughter and full custody of my youngest..but when i first had my oldest...it was rare for men to have custody of their children..i almost got locked up for contempt of court because i went off in our first child support hearing because they kept trying to make me sit with the dads there as defendents...and acted like i didnt have any business trying to get child support..even though i had custody..the judge made the mistake of asking me if i had anything to say..i had A LOT to say!

scott1 wrote:

<quoted text>..the judge made the mistake of asking me if i had anything to say..i had A LOT to say!

I applaud you, Scott1, it is rare to say the least for a MAN to fight through court battles to do what is right for his child/ren. And 20 years ago, yes, I can only imagine the controversy you went through, not counting the court battles, for 20 yrs ago, it was taboo to even whisper taking a child from their mother.
I have to admit, my son has made and awesome parent, at times, I have to admit, I stand in awe of him. But, I STILL worry about the non-feeling of a mother's love, affection & security {not Nanny's}in my grandchild's life.
Funny thing, is 20 yrs later, the child-support issue is still the same. They look at you, as if you have custody, WHAT MORE do you want.
My grandchild has suffered alot, mentally & physically and emotional because of the choices their mother made in Life. The sad truth is they will more than likely suffer through these issues from now on. My son has had my grandchild in Physical therapy to overcome the gross lack of motor skills, and counseling to overcome the trauma they dealt with, & testing upon testing to better their chances for a more productive life. Often times spending more than 20 hrs a week in visits and travel time, therefore making it a 20 hr work week. My son sold his own personal business to be able to devote all of his time to the care & love & support of his child. And my grandchild has come along ways, but there are many milestones ahead, but, I Thank God everyday, that my grandchild has my son,...as a FULL TIME parent.
Again Scott1, I applaud you, for even in today's times it is difficult being a single Daddy with custody, the fact that you are talking 20 yrs ago, is more than proof enough to me, that anyone that talks smack about you, it plainly just 2 azz cheeks rubbing together.
{and the day my son stood up in court and said what he had to say,...I must admit, I was floored, because we are talking about a 6'3" 250lb QUIET MAN, that never ever in his life went against the grain, until that day!{Must admit I was glad to know he had some of me, in him}:}
I will remember you in my prayers for I do believe God should bless you and your efforts to be all that you could be as a parent & a Daddy!
I am not an easy person, and as we all know, I am rather opinionated and verbal, and to be considered a Hero in my book, takes alot, but, you are another one, that for today, I am glad you responded, and I had the opportunity to know more about you.
For as we celebrated Veterans Day today, you are also another kind of Veteran,...a Veteran of Life. Your Child's Life. A Rare Breed. A Father Whom Stood Up And Fought.
Your children are lucky!

dawgs1 wrote:

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In hopes the Shakespearean long-winded lingo will make the post sound more educated...blah, thouest blah, blah...

Priceless.

We should all learn from Madonna's mistakes. You can't just decide you're going to have a British accent.

scott1 wrote:

<quoted text>there are plenty of deadbeat mothers out there as well....

True. And I applaud you for fighting for your children. It will pay off with dividends.

Julianna wrote:

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Priceless.
We should all learn from Madonna's mistakes. You can't just decide you're going to have a British accent.

Why not, Madonna just decided she had a Jewish mystic mind.