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Oct 6, 2008
 
(CBS) Those campaigning in California for Proposition 8, which would reinstate the ban on gay marriage, believe they'll get a lot of unintended help from Barack Obama on Election Day, reports CBS News correspondent John Blackstone.

"We thank Barack Obama, even though he's not supporting it, for helping us," says Sonja Eddings Brown, of an anti-gay-marriage group called Protect Marriage. "We think it's going to push us over the top."

Obama is expected to bring African-American voters out in record numbers, and those voters are seen as often being more conservative on issues involving homosexuality.

Pastor Edward Smith of Zoe Christian Fellowship has been urging members of his Los Angeles area church to vote for the gay marriage ban.

"Marriage has always been defined as a man and a woman," Smith says.

For Smith, it's the most significant item on the November ballot.

"This issue is more important than who becomes president of our states to me and to our Christian believers," he says.

But many African-American supporters of gay marriage see it as a civil rights issue, with gays fighting familiar battles, Blackstone reports.

"We were denied the right to marry a person of another race," says Alice A. Huffman, president of the California chapter of the National Association For the Advancement of Colored People. "Any time government intervenes and tells you what you can or can't do, it's a denial of your rights."

The California NAACP is trying to mobilize voters against the gay marriage ban, but at a meeting this past week showed, it's not an easy sell.

"If you believe in God and the Bible, how do you reconcile same gender marriages with Genesis 1:27 and 28?" asked one Obama supporter who is still undecided on the gay marriage ban. The Bible verse referenced is a commandment that called on the first man and woman to "be fruitful" and multiply.

While Obama himself does not support gay marriage, he says California's law allowing it should be left as it is. That has left some of his supporters facing a dilemma on Election Day.

"I don't have a problem with civil unions, but when it comes to marriage, and the holy sanctity of marriage, that's where I'm conflicted," says Jacquelynn Hawthorne, an Obama supporter.

That inner turmoil makes her an undecided voter on the gay marriage ban, Blackstone reports. And although the ban seems to be losing in the polls right now, those voters could make all the difference.

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You don't hear too much about Amendment 2 here in Florida...

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Vote no on Amendment 2, its not just about gay marriage, it will affect anyone straight or gay and their benefits.

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Glad all my lesbian friends found out he is against gay marriage, now they know who to vote for, someone that does not lie to the gays/lesbians to win votes.

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Riverjames wrote:
Glad all my lesbian friends found out he is against gay marriage, now they know who to vote for, someone that does not lie to the gays/lesbians to win votes.
I have gay friends who are voting for Obama just because he was for gay marriage. But when the truth came out that Obama wouldn't be CHANGING that, lol...
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I have gay friends who are voting for Obama just because he was for gay marriage. But when the truth came out that Obama wouldn't be CHANGING that, lol...
If all the gay/lesbians realize that, Obama will loose the election. There are alot more gays/lesbians in this country than people realize.

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Riverjames wrote:
<quoted text>If all the gay/lesbians realize that, Obama will loose the election. There are alot more gays/lesbians in this country than people realize.
That would be nice...
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If you are not a man and a woman, who are married you should not get benefits and other "civil rights" Vote Yes on 2 to show GOD that America is still worthy of His Love!

YES on 2!

YES on 2!

YES on 2!

Show GOD that you still beg for His Mercy and Grace.

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FredPhelps wrote:
If you are not a man and a woman, who are married you should not get benefits and other "civil rights" Vote Yes on 2 to show GOD that America is still worthy of His Love!
YES on 2!
YES on 2!
YES on 2!
Show GOD that you still beg for His Mercy and Grace.
Oh go ram your Bible up your ass. If God didn't "love" gay people then He wouldn't have made them.
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Oh go ram your Bible up your ass. If God didn't "love" gay people then He wouldn't have made them.
They have chosen their sin, and GOD will exact His vengence upon them!

A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for GOD!

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FredPhelps wrote:
If you are not a man and a woman, who are married you should not get benefits and other "civil rights" Vote Yes on 2 to show GOD that America is still worthy of His Love!
YES on 2!
YES on 2!
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Show GOD that you still beg for His Mercy and Grace.
The amendment also states that there will be no more common law marriage between straights and that benefits for them will no longer be allowed. This will hurt senior citizens who use the common law clause to obtain benefits as well. Its not just about gays/lesbians.

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They have chosen their sin, and GOD will exact His vengence upon them!
A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for GOD!
Oh lawd...I hope your children turn out gay.
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If you are not a man and a woman, who are married you should not get benefits and other "civil rights" Vote Yes on 2 to show GOD that America is still worthy of His Love!
YES on 2!
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Show GOD that you still beg for His Mercy and Grace.
You are a bigot. You are equivalent to a racist; but you are discriminating against a different minority. You are against the constitution considering all people equal. Biden says gays are entitled to full and equal rights under the U.S. Constitution. I guess you speak for all "Christians."
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<quoted text>The amendment also states that there will be no more common law marriage between straights and that benefits for them will no longer be allowed. This will hurt senior citizens who use the common law clause to obtain benefits as well. Its not just about gays/lesbians.
If they are of GOD, they should not live in sin, plain and simple. They should get married or stay celebate. Sex outside of marriage is a sin, and GOD will just get angry again! We should not extend benefits to these "domestic partners". They are evil sinners.
A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for GOD!
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If you are not a man and a woman, who are married you should not get benefits and other "civil rights" Vote Yes on 2 to show GOD that America is still worthy of His Love!
YES on 2!
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Show GOD that you still beg for His Mercy and Grace.
How would you know anything about God?
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Oh lawd...I hope your children turn out gay.
One did, and she is paying for her sins ever since the cancer hit her. GOD has an eternity of pain for her in the lake of eternal fire. I just pray that John and Sarah can win in Novem,ber to set this country back to its good GOD roots and away from gay rights, and affirmative action ,and the evail enviornmentalists!

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FredPhelps wrote:
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They have chosen their sin, and GOD will exact His vengence upon them!
A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for GOD!
the whole "they chose to be gay" thing has been debunked..did you choose to be a heterosexual? no you didnt...gays dont choose to be gay..why would someone choose to live in a way that would cause small minded, bigoted morons like you to bash and vilify them? and marriage has been around long before Christianity has been..and what about married couples who are atheist? are they living in sin because they dont recognize God as being over their marriage? go back to the dark ages. and put the keyboard down..your ignorance is showing.

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FredPhelps wrote:
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One did, and she is paying for her sins ever since the cancer hit her. GOD has an eternity of pain for her in the lake of eternal fire. I just pray that John and Sarah can win in Novem,ber to set this country back to its good GOD roots and away from gay rights, and affirmative action ,and the evail enviornmentalists!
Your such a complete fake. I see beyond your desperate comments. I hope your so happy Slim Shady. You try to hide behind so many personas.

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One did, and she is paying for her sins ever since the cancer hit her. GOD has an eternity of pain for her in the lake of eternal fire. I just pray that John and Sarah can win in Novem,ber to set this country back to its good GOD roots and away from gay rights, and affirmative action ,and the evail enviornmentalists!
How can you as a parent say that about your own child? I am a Christian, but there is NOTHING either of my kids could ever do that would make me glad they have something fatal like cancer. Cancer is NOT something to play around with and it is NOT GOD's punishment for sin!! I take offense to that.

I am a breast cancer survivor and am thankful for my family's love and support during that horrible time. I was NOT being punished for anything. I was just a random victim of a horrible disease.

I will pray for your child and that you will open your heart and act like a Christian should and not be judging and condemning your child!!! That is not our place as parents or Christians.

One more thing, it is people like you who make Christians look bad!!
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